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Two School Shooting today's
Topic Started: Feb 15 2018, 01:39 AM (5,114 Views)
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"I am the bone of my sword."

You all do realize that the number of people stopped by a gun in self-defense is staggeringly lower than the number of people murdered by them right?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/06/19/guns-in-america-for-every-criminal-killed-in-self-defense-34-innocent-people-die/?utm_term=.ee9f3394e4c5
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/06/14/for-every-gun-used-in-self-defense-six-more-are-used-to-commit-a-crime/?utm_term=.105e6c4502a4
https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/hicrc/firearms-research/gun-threats-and-self-defense-gun-use-2/

Bringing up one case of self defense doesn't mean much when the vast majority of guns are being used for the exact opposite. The whole "self-defense" plea frankly falls flat on its rear when its so rarely used compared to the actual amount of crimes being perpetrated by them that it becomes negligible.
Edited by EMIYA, Mar 9 2018, 04:34 PM.
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I feel like it's pointless to make another topic over this subject so might as well discuss it here.


What do you guys think about the media/politicians trying to use video games as a scapegoat for all this violence again?

Trump recently showed this video during a meeting about video game violence:



This stuff makes you a murderer. You can see how...realistic it is.
Which is why even though millions and millions of people play video games the amount of mass shooters isn't even slightly reflective of that.


Another source of "evidence" for this is that Andrzej Breivik said he played Call of Duty to enhance his shooting skills.
Yes.
Literally the media is taking words from that psychopath as some sort of evidence, I guess everything he says is true...except pretty much everything that comes out the vile bastards slimy throat.

There is always some sort of stupid scapegoat here.

What do you think will be next? Video games seem like they'll be a popular target for a long time now.
Maybe they'll swing back around to rock music being evil?
Hilariously movies are barley mentioned in this. Cartoon-like violence in Borderlands might make me a murderer but the SAW movies are damn fine TV and it's fine if I watch them.

It's so sad how for years and years the blame has always been something else, no matter how little sense it makes. Video games cause violence even though they're played all over the world.
Quick, the next shooter played Angry Birds once, a sick game about killing birds! It was obviously training for dehumanizing people to make killing them easier!
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I won't lie, I laughed when that came out, a big portion of Trumps fanbase was that same gamergate, and now they're feeling the same feeling that Trump has given each and every one of them, I had a similar reaction to the second amendment crowd's reaction to Trump saying it's better to take all the guns and leave due process for later.

Basically, we're talking about a politician who's economic ideas are from the 19th century, it's not a surprise he'll go back to the 90s for his stance on Video games. It's just another round of people picking on the new entertainment art form, even stupider here given how much it's artistically grown since the 90s, see walking simulators for a good showing of that.
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Mar 10 2018, 07:06 PM
I had a similar reaction to the second amendment crowd's reaction to Trump saying it's better to take all the guns and leave due process for later.
Oh wow. I never heard of that, I can just imagine how much foam was dripping from mouths, how can their almighty saviour turn on them like that?

He gains 1 respect point. Probably won't actually amount to anything but whatever.


It's kinda funny how people are against taking guns away from the potentially dangerous, I guess people have the right to commit crime and end the lives of as many people as possible before anything is done about it.
Your right to life is meaningless compared to the right to own a gun and not have it taken away until something horrible is done with it.

Potential mass shooter lives matter, potential victims don't.
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https://edition.cnn.com/2018/03/11/politics/white-house-gun-school-safety-proposals/index.html


Well, at least something is changing.

I somewhat think hiring veterans and whatnot as teachers is good, definitely more chance of them being able to save kids if a shooter shows up but it's inevitably going to lead to issues anyway.

What if one has PTSD for instance or if they just generally try to run the school like a military camp...


And wow didn't take them long to decide against raising the age to get guns.
Even 21 is too young in my opinion, why the f*** do you need a gun at that age? Technically an adult but how many 21 year old folk are actually responsible people that wouldn't just dick around with their new toy?

In any case, glad to see even Trump is tired of all this talk and no action...it's promising? I guess.
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