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Epic Villain
Topic Started: Feb 13 2018, 06:35 PM (789 Views)
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I've been watching the dubbed version of the Future Trunks arc and I gotta say I'm impressed with Goku Black as a villain. He gives off that Dragonball Z feel in accordance with the main villains like Cell, Frieza, and Buu. What do y'all think?
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I liked him at first but then every time I remember
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, it kind of ruins it for me.
Edited by superperfectnerd, Feb 13 2018, 06:41 PM.
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Goku Black was probably a surprise for everyone. I still think he and Zamasu are the best things to come from Super. Unfortunately, they are undermined by the story arc they're in, which slowly, by degrees becomes a clusterf*** of inconsistencies and paradoxes.
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The other sagas besides the Freiza and Future Trunks arcs kinda bore me so I couldn't really get into them. This arc particular is like a throwback to the Android/Cell saga so I ran with it.
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Goku Black and Zamasu are probably the only good things to come out of Super when it comes to villains (Other than Initial Tournament Freeza...can't say much on Latter Tournament Freeza)

Beerus just comes off as a bland, Freeza clone with all the smugness but none of the evil charm.

RoF Freeza...is just Freeza, which may not be bad, but the Arc he's in does him on justice.

Goku Black has the charm and suaveness and there was more attempt, for better or worse, to make Zamasu a more complex character.

And then we got Jiren and...oh boy.

but yeah, let's be honest, the Zamasu Arc is by and far the best part of Super, by honestly a long shot and even its not without a good deal of issues. But I'd at least, for the most part, be willing to call it a competent Arc.
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Yeah, he's pretty awesome and I think he's the only good villain/antagonist in Super. Frieza wasn't bad, but that was just repeat.
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Goku Black is just a lame rehash of Ginyu and Turles. We really did not need another "evil Goku".

The whole Zamasu arc was trash, pretty much the worst arc in the whole franchise. And it's a rip-off of my fanfiction from 2014! http://dbzf.co.uk/single/?p=9069981&t=8507119
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Goku Black was decent only when his true nature/identity was a mystery.
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Feb 13 2018, 09:20 PM
Goku Black is just a lame rehash of Ginyu and Turles. We really did not need another "evil Goku".

The whole Zamasu arc was trash, pretty much the worst arc in the whole franchise. And it's a rip-off of my fanfiction from 2014! http://dbzf.co.uk/single/?p=9069981&t=8507119
I'm sorry but this is such a half baked excuse of trying to criticize Black. Turles was already a dull an uneventful character of a pretty dull and uneventful movie. He had absolutely no personality beyond basic villain, no story or character to call his own. The only point of Turles was to show what would happen if Goku didn't hit his head and he's nothing more than an antagonistic force for the movie.

Other than appearance, Black and Turles couldn't be any different with Black actually having character, personality and a whole story to develop him. He, along with Zamasu, were treated as actual characters in the series that tried to develop them. There isn't one thing Turles has on Black at all.

And Ginyu? What Goku gets his body switched and sudden Black's a Ginyu rip off? God forbid any character in any series switches bodies with someone or takes over someone's body...how dare they clearly rip off Ginyu despite having nothing do with Ginyu's character, personality or involvement in the story. This just sounds like a poor excuse to criticize something that has no merit to it.

Might as well say Bardock's a blatant rip off of Goku cause he looks the same and likes to fight, even though the character, story and personality involving him could't be any different.
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