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Kaioken x4 Vegeta vs Ginyu*
Topic Started: Jan 25 2018, 09:05 PM (249 Views)
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Saiyan arc 18k Vegeta can use Kaioken with no strain, and for unlimited time. This is the version of Ginyu who powered up slightly beyond his initial state in the manga (not full power). Who do you have winning?
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"I am the bone of my sword."

Vegeta at his best would only be about 72,000.

Goku was already at 60,000 and then had a little freak out when Ginyu started to power up. A bit later, Ginyu notes that Goku (before seeing Kaioken) probably can only reach a PL of 85,000. So if Ginyu hadn't already hit 120,000 during his power up, let's assume he at least his 85,000 if not higher.

To me, Vegeta loses shamefully or Ginyu JoJo poses so hard Vegeta's head explodes from the shounen impact of it all.

Either way, Vegeta's not winning.
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I think Ginyu would be under 85k after his little power up. Iirc, he was still fighting about on par with Goku after powering up, and he still figured Goku was concealing his strength. Take that as you will, but I see both Goku and Ginyu being a decent amount under 85k because of that.
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I honestly think Vegeta has more skill than Ginyu, but Ginyu would have to be at 75,000 to potentially lose this. If Ginyu is 78,000 or up, Vegeta stands no chance. It comes down to what level you think Ginyu is at at this point. I think he's around 80,000, so Vegeta loses imo.
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If Ginyu > Vegeta, then Ginyu wins (obviously).

If Vegeta > Ginyu, then Ginyu would probably use his body-swapping ability at the earliest opportunity. Did Vegeta even know Ginyu had that skill before it was used on Goku? I don't actually remember.

I think Ginyu has the edge here, tough, so no need to change bodies.
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Vegeta can't take this, even if Ginyu isn't at full power.
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