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Should religious schools be allowed?
Topic Started: Jan 22 2018, 09:10 PM (1,339 Views)
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There was something on BBC about the integration (or rather, the failed integration) of cultures in the UK, namely Muslims and white Brits. That's a whole other debate, but what came up while I was talking about it with someone was how it needs to start at school level. Religious schools only serve to further segregate as Muslim families will gravitate towards Islamic schools, or away from Church of England and Catholic schools. I feel like the abolishing of religious schools would go a long way to solving integration issues in the country.

Aside from that, I also just don't feel like school should be a place for religion anyway. Sure, kids should be taught about the various religions that they will come across in the world, but it should not be geared towards one. They should teach, not preach. Schools should be a neutral ground that isn't ruled by cultural, religious, or any other divide.
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Completely agree. They serve no purpose apart from the agendas of the very dogmatic.


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I don't see what's wrong with a religious school. If parents want their kids to be brought into a religion, that's not a bad choice.
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I definitely get both points of wanting them and not wanting them. For one it makes sense for a religious parent to send their child to a religious school. But it's almost as if you're forcing your religion upon them and that's one of the biggest issues with religion. Regardless I think a person is going to form their religious views once they're older. I know some people follow exactly what they're parents do, but I don't think most people do. So having religious schools is kind of pointless. Especially when people in ordinary schools end up with similar lives in terms of views and such tbh.
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Jan 22 2018, 09:33 PM
I don't see what's wrong with a religious school. If parents want their kids to be brought into a religion, that's not a bad choice.
Right, but the parents can do that themselves. Religion should be kept separate from education. They just don't go together.
You can't just say: according to science the Earth is 4.5 billion years old.
Alright, kids, now pick up your bibles and talk about how that isn't really true.

It's also not good for integration. School is where you first learn to socialize as well. You meet different kids, from different background. Doesn't help if people divide themselves with religious schools.
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Any school that doesn't teach science is gonna hurt the children in the long run.
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The scientific facts that were discovered so far, apply to the entire planet and humanity. Whereas, religion only applies to a certain group of Homo Sapiens. That's why, if public institutions are confident enough to teach kids about chemistry, physics and other such subjects, they shouldn't shy away from science of the past. Whereas religion is only about superstitions appertaining to each religious groups. It should be taught inside family, churches and stuff, but not be regarded as general knowledge. Can't tell you how much I hated the religion mandatory courses my entire education. I was basically graded related to how I complied to my teacher's own ideologies (and I was an Atheist since 6th grade). I would definitely forbid religion from all public institutions, sans those that try to promote religious toleration.

I know what you asked, but yes, even in a school that teaches Religion as a valid subject, it's still a 'religious school', because it promotes Orthodoxism (in my case) or other religions. I think it's time we drew a line between religion and every other department.
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If you believe in religious freedom, than having these types of schools is a necessity. Not everyone may agree but, for the people devoted to their religious backgrounds and beliefs, this is something that is near perfect.

The real problem lies within the people who view people by these titles we give them based on who they are. They are people nonetheless and deserve to have the rights to follow what they believe and not be criticized by the general public outside of their belief system.

I’m not religious myself but, I can understand the need to have it available for the ones who do choose to live their lives by it.
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Jan 22 2018, 09:33 PM
I don't see what's wrong with a religious school. If parents want their kids to be brought into a religion, that's not a bad choice.
This is the problem for me, the parents want that, not the child.


I wouldn't mind religious schools, if they were only for ages 16 and up.
Religion should be a choice, not something you're conned in to believing at a young age.
People should be able to make their own minds up.

People often come back to that with "Yeah but you force them to learn science and stuff!" but those things are actually necessary to live a functional life, unless everyone is going to become a pastor or their religious equivalent you are boned in life if religion is all you know.
If you live in society you should contribute to society as best you can, religion does nothing to that end it just creates conflict.
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Jan 23 2018, 07:27 PM
People often come back to that with "Yeah but you force them to learn science and stuff!" but those things are actually necessary to live a functional life, unless everyone is going to become a pastor or their religious equivalent you are boned in life if religion is all you know.
If you live in society you should contribute to society as best you can, religion does nothing to that end it just creates conflict.
I haven’t needed a good 80% of what I learned in school on a day to day basis. The Pythagorean Theorem and knowing how to write a good essay don’t seem very beneficial for kids to learn. Schools in general are a flawed system being that’s iys just a memory game till you’re 17-18. Once in college, you start to learn what you want.

Either way, kids are getting taught things that aren’t going to help a lot throughout life. Religious schools don’t purely teach religion either, they share some of the same curriculums normal schools do as well.
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When I made my post, i mostly was thinking of later on in the kids' life.

Honestly, I think the best way to go about this is to have multiple religions in one school, but make them optional classes revolving around said religions.
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I haven’t needed a good 80% of what I learned in school on a day to day basis. The Pythagorean Theorem and knowing how to write a good essay don’t seem very beneficial for kids to learn. Schools in general are a flawed system being that’s iys just a memory game till you’re 17-18. Once in college, you start to learn what you want.

Either way, kids are getting taught things that aren’t going to help a lot throughout life. Religious schools don’t purely teach religion either, they share some of the same curriculums normal schools do as well.
Yeah but some of that 80% you could have needed and otherwise even if some stuff is "useless" it still teaches you how to research and develops your mind. Though it's not perfect of course.
Religion largely teaches you how to think inside a box and not like anything outside that box, it's not helpful.

Learning about religions is fine but being taught how to practice them at a young age does nothing positive to society.

Learning about them is pretty important considering how much of human history is directly tied to practically all of them but their often archaic ways of thinking don't belong in modern society at all, they only make people hate more.
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I don't mind them, so yes they should be allowed by the law. Abolishing religious schools is not something that I entertain.
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All good parents want the best for their kids want to instill good values in them at a young age. Obviously some people feel that a private school with emphasis on religion is a good way to do that. Kids will grow up and have a mind of their own to make their own decisions regardless of their education but there's nothing wrong with parents putting their kids on a certain path
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They shouldn't be allowed at all. Religious Schools are basically brainwashing tools.
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