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Mystic Gohan vs. Buutenks w/ pre-ROSAT absorption
Topic Started: Jan 16 2018, 01:48 AM (972 Views)
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I could see them being around equal so Buutenks wins.
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Jan 17 2018, 11:33 PM
Yeah I have Gohan around five times ssj3 Goku but hundreds of times just seems unlikely to me. Pre ROSAT Bootenks would win for me if Gotenks is using ssj3.
You'd need to ignore some major statements from the manga and keep your Super Saiyan multipliers ludicrously low for Gohan to be only five times as strong as SS3 Goku. Maybe that is more in line with Toriyama's intent but not with the manga's actual content.

As for the topic itself, I think Gohan has more than enough strenght to defeat this hypothetical Gotenks-Boo. The problem is that "Ultimate" Gohan is incredibly stupid, almost as if the elder Kaioshin's ritual traded intelligence for strenght. In the manga, Gohan repeated the exact same mistake that led to his father's sacrifice seven years prior by playing around and being arrogant instead of finishing Boo off quickly. He'd do the exact same thing in this hypothetical fight and Boo would eventually hatch a plan to absorb him.
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Jan 18 2018, 12:42 AM
superperfectnerd
Jan 17 2018, 11:33 PM
Yeah I have Gohan around five times ssj3 Goku but hundreds of times just seems unlikely to me. Pre ROSAT Bootenks would win for me if Gotenks is using ssj3.
You'd need to ignore some major statements from the manga and keep your Super Saiyan multipliers ludicrously low for Gohan to be only five times as strong as SS3 Goku. Maybe that is more in line with Toriyama's intent but not with the manga's actual content.

As for the topic itself, I think Gohan has more than enough strenght to defeat this hypothetical Gotenks-Boo. The problem is that "Ultimate" Gohan is incredibly stupid, almost as if the elder Kaioshin's ritual traded intelligence for strenght. In the manga, Gohan repeated the exact same mistake that led to his father's sacrifice seven years prior by playing around and being arrogant instead of finishing Boo off quickly. He'd do the exact same thing in this hypothetical fight and Boo would eventually hatch a plan to absorb him.
I know, I am going with intent over content these days tbh, especially in Super with ssj3 Vegetto < ssjg < base Kefla?????? Huh? I'm sure the authors don't intend for Kefla to be a superior fusion to Vegetto, if Vegetto appeared now he'd break the multiverse or something in base throwing that nonsensical scaling in the bin.

Majin Vegeta = 12,000,000,000

Good Boo = 12,000,000,000

Majin Boo = 15,000,000,000

Evil Boo = 18,000,000,000

Ssj Gotenks (pre ROSAT) = 18,000,000,000

Ssj Gotenks (post ROSAT) = 22,500,000,000

Kid Boo = 43,000,000,000

Ssj2 Gotenks = 45,000,000,000

Ssj3 Goku = 48,000,000,000

Super Boo = 162,000,000,000

Ssj3 Gotenks = 180,000,000,000

'Ultimate' Gohan = 225,000,000,000

Those are my numbers based on feats. It all fits outside of some character statements which seem like hyperbole to me.
Edited by superperfectnerd, Jan 19 2018, 03:59 PM.
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I mean, if Gohan's 4 times stronger than Goku or 10,000 times stronger than Goku, what's the difference? The gap's big regardless of which one you pick, so personal incredulity doesn't really matter. You can't say that the smaller gap 'makes more sense', because it's really big itself.
Edited by Yu Narukami, Jan 20 2018, 03:33 PM.
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