Broly (M8) vs Gohan (M9)

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Broly (M8) vs Gohan (M9)
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lazerbem	May 31 2018, 11:08 PM Post #61
Posts: 10,662 Group: Forum Moderator Member #10,435 Joined: November 1, 2013 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Asura's Wrath(it counts) What Browser do you use? Google Chrome	He survived it but he wasn’t in fighting shape after. He was immediately crippled in fact. Not relevant in combat
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+ Pyrus	May 31 2018, 11:17 PM Post #62
Posts: 39,342 Group: Legend Member #5,088 Joined: August 1, 2010 Gender Not Specified Country Chile	You're correct.
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StrenuousSpider	Jun 1 2018, 07:02 AM Post #63
Posts: 2,085 Group: Member Member #13,372 Joined: July 11, 2016 Gender Male Country United States	Six Trails May 31 2018, 10:31 PM I don't think Broly's ever done anything to show he has above average durability. We only see him in fights where he has a significant power advantage which is why he's always tanking his opponents. Stabbed as a baby and still had enough power to save himself and his father from freizas planet busting attack. Survived the punch through the chest by goku. Survived being covered in lava. Was weaker then the family kamea wave but it did not hurt him. Survived several seconds in the sun before dieing. None of these he had a power advantage. Not as a infant, not against amped goku, not against the family kamea wave. Any of these scenarios happen to someone else they would be dead.



+ Pointer	Jun 1 2018, 07:11 AM Post #64
... Posts: 7,062 Group: Elite Member Member #8,812 Joined: January 5, 2013 Gender Male	Six Trails May 31 2018, 10:31 PM I don't think Broly's ever done anything to show he has above average durability. We only see him in fights where he has a significant power advantage which is why he's always tanking his opponents. He tanked a full powered khh point blank. Something which not even cell could tank And the knife scene. And how did he survive in space ? Edited by Pointer, Jun 1 2018, 07:12 AM.



I'll Take This	Jun 1 2018, 12:32 PM Post #65
Posts: 682 Group: Member Member #12,288 Joined: May 1, 2015	Broly deaths are all stupid and make no sense, he basically dies from his own power twice, Family Kamehameha pushes him into the sun, yet the sun nor kamehameha don't kill him or damage him, no burnt makes or additional damage from the blast yet he explodes from his own energy, in m8, gets a hole in his stomach, pops from his own energy. Edited by I'll Take This, Jun 1 2018, 12:33 PM.



StrenuousSpider	Jun 1 2018, 10:23 PM Post #66
Posts: 2,085 Group: Member Member #13,372 Joined: July 11, 2016 Gender Male Country United States	I'll Take This Jun 1 2018, 12:32 PM Broly deaths are all stupid and make no sense, he basically dies from his own power twice, Family Kamehameha pushes him into the sun, yet the sun nor kamehameha don't kill him or damage him, no burnt makes or additional damage from the blast yet he explodes from his own energy, in m8, gets a hole in his stomach, pops from his own energy. He did not die in M8. And the sun vaporized him in M10.



I'll Take This	Jun 2 2018, 05:17 AM Post #67
Posts: 682 Group: Member Member #12,288 Joined: May 1, 2015	StrenuousSpider Jun 1 2018, 10:23 PM I'll Take This Jun 1 2018, 12:32 PM Broly deaths are all stupid and make no sense, he basically dies from his own power twice, Family Kamehameha pushes him into the sun, yet the sun nor kamehameha don't kill him or damage him, no burnt makes or additional damage from the blast yet he explodes from his own energy, in m8, gets a hole in his stomach, pops from his own energy. He did not die in M8. And the sun vaporized him in M10. The sun didn't kill him, couldn't even kill Goku back on namek when he was traveling their nor did it even kill Cooler, plus he heart exploded and popped from his own energy. Edited by I'll Take This, Jun 2 2018, 05:18 AM.



StrenuousSpider	Jun 2 2018, 06:07 AM Post #68
Posts: 2,085 Group: Member Member #13,372 Joined: July 11, 2016 Gender Male Country United States	I dont recall goku ever being pushed into a sun. And you can see cooler being killed by the sun. His own attack that was pushed back at him did not hurt him. He reverts to final form when in contact with the sun and then is vaporized. And in broly case he did explode in a sense yes but it was because of the sun. Nothing outside the the sun hurt him. Broly had the same kind of defeat when goku punched him in M8 but he still lived which proves broly is not blowing up but in fact its all his energy from the lssj form thats being released in an explosive way away from his body. Meaning the sun vaporized broly. If his own energy blew him up like you say it did then M10 would be impossible. Broly survived his energy release once while also taking a giant meteor to the face while having a hole in his stomach. So his energy release in M10 obviously is not what killed broly.



Boots Mcmurphy	Jun 2 2018, 11:38 AM Post #69
Posts: 66 Group: Member Member #14,231 Joined: January 26, 2018 Gender Male Country United Kingdom Favourite Anime DBZ, DeathNote, Attack on Titan, Souleater What Browser do you use? Firefox Favourite Manga DBZ	I know a lot of people follow the trend of the movie villains only get stronger and stronger. But id argue that's not the case. Broly seems far more impressive than Bojack, and considering the 2 movies take place relatively close to each other, Broly seems far superior. Likewise final form Janemba seems more impressive than Hirudegarn. M8 Broly puts up a semi decent fight but probably loses M10 wins



Muyasuki	Jun 2 2018, 11:57 AM Post #70
Posts: 743 Group: Member Member #6,973 Joined: November 12, 2011	Gohan stomps like it's no one's business. I'm geniunely surprised that this is even a question here give Bojack takes care of Broly easily himself and we see what M9 Gohan does to him.



StrenuousSpider	Jun 2 2018, 12:03 PM Post #71
Posts: 2,085 Group: Member Member #13,372 Joined: July 11, 2016 Gender Male Country United States	Muyasuki Jun 2 2018, 11:57 AM Gohan stomps like it's no one's business. I'm geniunely surprised that this is even a question here give Bojack takes care of Broly easily himself and we see what M9 Gohan does to him. Whats your reasoning that bojack or even Gohan could do anything. M10 power scale, M8 statements, and Hatchiyack statements prove pretty clearly that M8 broly is flicking Gohan and bojack hell add cell at the same time.



I'll Take This	Jun 2 2018, 03:16 PM Post #72
Posts: 682 Group: Member Member #12,288 Joined: May 1, 2015	Quote: I know a lot of people follow the trend of the movie villains only get stronger and stronger. But id argue that's not the case. Broly seems far more impressive than Bojack, and considering the 2 movies take place relatively close to each other, Broly seems far superior. Likewise final form Janemba seems more impressive than Hirudegarn. M8 Broly puts up a semi decent fight but probably loses M10 wins The author himself states usually movie villains are meant to be stronger but with Broly that wasn't the case since they couldn't find anyone stronger then him for Goku to fight. Quote: Gohan stomps like it's no one's business. I'm geniunely surprised that this is even a question here give Bojack takes care of Broly easily himself and we see what M9 Gohan does to him. Bojack isn't near Broly level, never shown to be, RSSJ Broly was already above Gohan and he powered up big time before LSSJ, at best Bojack is gonna be RSSJ Broly level, but LSSJ is a no go Quote: I dont recall goku ever being pushed into a sun. On his way to namek he got to the sun, just said it was hot and went along to Namek Quote: And you can see cooler being killed by the sun.His own attack that was pushed back at him did not hurt him. He reverts to final form when in contact with the sun and then is vaporized. Cooler was surviving the sun, and he died after his own supernova exploded. He crashed into the sun, still in his 5th form, has the flashback of Goku, turns into his final form and dies when his own attack explodes. Never died from the sun https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bscHl76z3bk He died from his own attack as shown in the end Quote: And in broly case he did explode in a sense yes but it was because of the sun. Nothing outside the the sun hurt him. The sun didn't do any damage to him, when Cooler was in the sun, he lasted ages and came out with scratches etc, but then again, that could be from his own attack since ki burns other as well, with Broly, neither the kamehameha nor the sun did any damage on him, sun didn't burn him, kamehameha didn't put any additional damage as well. Quote: Broly had the same kind of defeat when goku punched him in M8 but he still lived which proves broly is not blowing up but in fact its all his energy from the lssj form thats being released in an explosive way away from his body. Meaning the sun vaporized broly. This make no sense because the scene isn't reflecting it, Broly exploded from his chest on the inside, then he exploded from his own energy which causes a green cloud smoke to appear on the sun, the sun isn't playing a factor besides stopping the Kamehameha in it's tracks, nor would it make sense scaling wise since Cooler survived the sun for ages and didn't even die from it. Quote: If his own energy blew him up like you say it did then M10 would be impossible. Broly survived his energy release once while also taking a giant meteor to the face while having a hole in his stomach. So his energy release in M10 obviously is not what killed broly. Broly M8 is different because M10 wasn't planned then, meaning Broly survived for the sake of the next movie which was after M9, where M10 he died and didn't come back. 4:03 - 4:15 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VdS6yKSRWYo The sun isn't playing a factor at all, along with the family kamehameha since it wasn't even their. Broly legitimately died from his own energy, nothing else is showing his death, sun isn't burning him, kamehameha isn't putting any damage nor even their at the time of his death.



StrenuousSpider	Jun 2 2018, 10:53 PM Post #73
Posts: 2,085 Group: Member Member #13,372 Joined: July 11, 2016 Gender Male Country United States	I'll Take This Jun 2 2018, 03:16 PM Quote: I know a lot of people follow the trend of the movie villains only get stronger and stronger. But id argue that's not the case. Broly seems far more impressive than Bojack, and considering the 2 movies take place relatively close to each other, Broly seems far superior. Likewise final form Janemba seems more impressive than Hirudegarn. M8 Broly puts up a semi decent fight but probably loses M10 wins The author himself states usually movie villains are meant to be stronger but with Broly that wasn't the case since they couldn't find anyone stronger then him for Goku to fight. Quote: Gohan stomps like it's no one's business. I'm geniunely surprised that this is even a question here give Bojack takes care of Broly easily himself and we see what M9 Gohan does to him. Bojack isn't near Broly level, never shown to be, RSSJ Broly was already above Gohan and he powered up big time before LSSJ, at best Bojack is gonna be RSSJ Broly level, but LSSJ is a no go Quote: I dont recall goku ever being pushed into a sun. On his way to namek he got to the sun, just said it was hot and went along to Namek Quote: And you can see cooler being killed by the sun.His own attack that was pushed back at him did not hurt him. He reverts to final form when in contact with the sun and then is vaporized. Cooler was surviving the sun, and he died after his own supernova exploded. He crashed into the sun, still in his 5th form, has the flashback of Goku, turns into his final form and dies when his own attack explodes. Never died from the sun https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bscHl76z3bk He died from his own attack as shown in the end Quote: And in broly case he did explode in a sense yes but it was because of the sun. Nothing outside the the sun hurt him. The sun didn't do any damage to him, when Cooler was in the sun, he lasted ages and came out with scratches etc, but then again, that could be from his own attack since ki burns other as well, with Broly, neither the kamehameha nor the sun did any damage on him, sun didn't burn him, kamehameha didn't put any additional damage as well. Quote: Broly had the same kind of defeat when goku punched him in M8 but he still lived which proves broly is not blowing up but in fact its all his energy from the lssj form thats being released in an explosive way away from his body. Meaning the sun vaporized broly. This make no sense because the scene isn't reflecting it, Broly exploded from his chest on the inside, then he exploded from his own energy which causes a green cloud smoke to appear on the sun, the sun isn't playing a factor besides stopping the Kamehameha in it's tracks, nor would it make sense scaling wise since Cooler survived the sun for ages and didn't even die from it. Quote: If his own energy blew him up like you say it did then M10 would be impossible. Broly survived his energy release once while also taking a giant meteor to the face while having a hole in his stomach. So his energy release in M10 obviously is not what killed broly. Broly M8 is different because M10 wasn't planned then, meaning Broly survived for the sake of the next movie which was after M9, where M10 he died and didn't come back. 4:03 - 4:15 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VdS6yKSRWYo The sun isn't playing a factor at all, along with the family kamehameha since it wasn't even their. Broly legitimately died from his own energy, nothing else is showing his death, sun isn't burning him, kamehameha isn't putting any damage nor even their at the time of his death. No need to link videos i watched them before posting last. It dose not matter if M10 was not planned. He survived it once while in worse condition so thats not what killed broly. Shotty argument on your part. You cant ignore one movie to fit your view of the other. Cooler was vaporized Its why he was terrified when he saw the sun coming. Cooler attack was not hurting him on the way to the sun so obviously it was not powerful enough to vaporize him. gokus kamea wave did nothing it was not shown in coolers death. So cooler even after losing control of his attack hit face first is not hurt or burned by his move. The second he touched the sun he begins to lose power and dies. Its obvious what killed him. Broly again like i said before and above was killed by the sun. The kamea wave did not hurt him what so ever no scuffs, scratchs nothing. But the second he touchs the sun he dies. He loses control the EXACT SAME WAY IN M8 that he did in M10. Difference we see the sun vaporize him while before he survived a world explosion after exploding himself. His release of energy is not what killed him green smoke or not.



I'll Take This	Jun 2 2018, 11:59 PM Post #74
Posts: 682 Group: Member Member #12,288 Joined: May 1, 2015	Quote: It dose not matter if M10 was not planned. He survived it once while in worse condition so thats not what killed broly. Shotty argument on your part. You cant ignore one movie to fit your view of the other. How is it a shotty argument when literally the movie wasn't planned and the author basically had to bring him back because no one was stronger ? Doesn't mean he survives that situation in M8 he is going to survive it all the time whenever it happens. No different then the meta cooler situation. Quote: Cooler was vaporized Its why he was terrified when he saw the sun coming. Cooler attack was not hurting him on the way to the sun so obviously it was not powerful enough to vaporize him. gokus kamea wave did nothing it was not shown in coolers death. The sun didn't kill Cooler, it's literally shown that when his own attack exploded he died from that, which covered the entire sun and basically acted as a supernova after. Quote: So cooler even after losing control of his attack hit face first is not hurt or burned by his move. The second he touched the sun he begins to lose power and dies. Its obvious what killed him. What ? You are just assuming now, how isn't he hurt from his own attack when he just died moments after from it when it exploded, you make no sense here. Quote: Broly again like i said before and above was killed by the sun. The kamea wave did not hurt him what so ever no scuffs, scratchs nothing. But the second he touchs the sun he dies. And it's false, the movie isn't showing this at all, the sun didn't put any burn marks on him or anything like it did with Cooler. And he touched the sun for a few seconds, and again nothing happened as all that happened was his chest exploded from his energy and then pops. We're are you getting this moment ? Quote: He loses control the EXACT SAME WAY IN M8 that he did in M10. Difference we see the sun vaporize him while before he survived a world explosion after exploding himself. His release of energy is not what killed him green smoke or not. Green smoke or not ? It literally shows green smoke from his own energy and you are sitting here saying it's the sun that vaporized him despite he was never vaporized by it. You clearly didn't watch them man My Webpage 4:03 - 4:15 Do I need to screen shoot this ? His own hearts pops and you see his green energy leak out Explode completely from his energy Green smoke from the sun from his own energy The sun didn't do anything



StrenuousSpider	Jun 3 2018, 05:41 AM Post #75
Posts: 2,085 Group: Member Member #13,372 Joined: July 11, 2016 Gender Male Country United States	I watched them before making my first post. I even said what happened to cooler step by step lol. And again it dose not matter if the movie came later it still came and he lived through more then just his lssj exploding. Broly did not die after exploding with a hole in his gut and hit by a meteor the size of the planet and still had enough energy to save himelf and get to earth. So no no matter what, he did not die from his own energy what have you been watching. And yes it is a shotty argument to say his energy killed him because the movie was not originally supposed to be. It brings in no evidence what so ever. Tell what hurt broly in M10 that caused him to lose control over his energy like in M8 it sure as hell was not the kamea wave which did nothing to him. And of course you see smoke coming from the sun broly still lost control over his own energy hence the smoke. You see broly the second he touchs the sun in pain from it. It caused him to lose control of his energy and then get vaporized by the sun. Evidence from M8 proves him exploding from his lssj is not enough by far to be able to kill him but you are straight up ignoring that to fit your view. You have brought no evidence from either movie showing that his energy kills him. But i brought evidence showing thats not strong enough to kill him. So answer me these questions. What in Movie 10 hurt broly that he lost control of his energy like in Movie 8. Why can broly with a hole in his stomach, self exploding, and being smashed by a meteor the size of the planet. Still have the energy to not only survive that but make his way to earth. But just his self explosion kills him here? And the sun which was made a huge part of that kill had nothing to do with it. Im expecting some crap answer like you have been giving like the movie was not originally planned or maybe sometimes it kills him and other times it dose not. The first being a cop out the second a baseless assumption.



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