Broly (M8) vs Gohan (M9)

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Broly (M8) vs Gohan (M9)
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+ Emmeth	May 27 2018, 09:32 AM Post #16
I ♥ Yoeri Posts: 20,075 Group: Legend Member #8,985 Joined: February 7, 2013 Country Japan	Regardless of whether Bojack is stronger than Broly or not, SSJ2 Gohan from that movie should slaughter M8 Broly. A SSJ Goku with some energy from his comrades managed to defeat Broly in M8 and SSJ2 Gohan is logically much stronger than his M8 father.
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Notaka	May 27 2018, 09:58 AM Post #17
Always Wright Posts: 4,070 Group: Member Member #10,814 Joined: January 31, 2014 Country Algeria What Browser do you use? Waterfox Favourite Manga Dragon Ball, JoJo no kimyou na bouken, One piece, currently reading Shaman King	Unless Goku became an SSJ4 Super Namekian when he absorbed their energy, while Broly was simply only an LSSJ Joking aside, Gohan should win this. What tells me that Perfect Cell(at his full power) wouldn't be able to do the same M8 Broly did ? And we all know how Gohan vs Cell turned out.
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I'll Take This	May 27 2018, 10:53 AM Post #18
Posts: 682 Group: Member Member #12,288 Joined: May 1, 2015	Quote: Regardless of whether Bojack is stronger than Broly or not, SSJ2 Gohan from that movie should slaughter M8 Broly. A SSJ Goku with some energy from his comrades managed to defeat Broly in M8 and SSJ2 Gohan is logically much stronger than his M8 father. We are talking about Toei powered SSJ Goku here, not 1 + 1 = 2 with them. Goku in M4 powered up so much from Piccolo powered alone that he surpassed his false SSJ state before and one-shot giant slug, according to guides, powered up to kaioken x 100, just from Piccolo power alone. Goku in GT got over 10x stronger just from 3 SSJ powers alone. Goku was plot powered, and seeing how Broly easily tanks 2 Masekos without so much as noticing them, he is well beyond SSJ2 Gohan power Quote: Unless Goku became an SSJ4 Super Namekian when he absorbed their energy, while Broly was simply only an LSSJ And M10 shown that SSJ to LSSJ > SSJ to SSJ2 by a huge margin. M8 Broly without LSSJ was already above SSJ Gohan and Goku, why would it be weaker then a SSj2 when M10 already shown he is far greater then a SSj2. Quote: Joking aside, Gohan should win this. What tells me that Perfect Cell(at his full power) wouldn't be able to do the same M8 Broly did ? And we all know how Gohan vs Cell turned out. Considering SPC couldn't do what Broly done, I highly doubt FP PC can do it. Their is gaps to tanking, being stronger doesn't mean your gonna do what Broly does. Perfect Cell was strong enough to tank Vegeta kick, yet got blown away from final flash, yet Imperfect Cell was able to tank Piccolo attack easily, meaning the gap between Cell vs Vegeta is smaller then Imperfect Cell vs Piccolo. SPC failed to tank Vegeta attack the same way Imperfect Cell tanked Piccolo attack, meaning Impefect Cell vs Piccolo attack is higher then SPC vs SSJ Vegeta. Their is gaps to tanking, being strong enough to tank a punch doesn't mean your gonna tank a amp attack which multiples the users level. Compare that to Broly gaps to the Z fighters, besides the fact he toyed with them and could've one-shot any of them he chooses as shown when his fight with Vegeta, he tanked attacks without even having to put his guard up, doesn't even have to notice, tanking 2 Masekos without even noticing it, FP PC isn't even close to do, SPC couldn't even do that to SSJ Vegeta attack.



+ Emmeth	May 27 2018, 10:56 AM Post #19
I ♥ Yoeri Posts: 20,075 Group: Legend Member #8,985 Joined: February 7, 2013 Country Japan	I'll Take This May 27 2018, 10:53 AM Quote: Regardless of whether Bojack is stronger than Broly or not, SSJ2 Gohan from that movie should slaughter M8 Broly. A SSJ Goku with some energy from his comrades managed to defeat Broly in M8 and SSJ2 Gohan is logically much stronger than his M8 father. We are talking about Toei powered SSJ Goku here, not 1 + 1 = 2 with them. Goku in M4 powered up so much from Piccolo powered alone that he surpassed his false SSJ state before and one-shot giant slug, according to guides, powered up to kaioken x 100, just from Piccolo power alone. Goku in GT got over 10x stronger just from 3 SSJ powers alone. Goku was plot powered, and seeing how Broly easily tanks 2 Masekos without so much as noticing them, he is well beyond SSJ2 Gohan power What a bunch of malarkey. I'd ask you to prove this through statements, not feats, but you wouldn't be able to do that. If I can't prove you wrong, you always win (in your own mind at least).
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I'll Take This	May 27 2018, 11:02 AM Post #20
Posts: 682 Group: Member Member #12,288 Joined: May 1, 2015	Emmeth May 27 2018, 10:56 AM I'll Take This May 27 2018, 10:53 AM What a bunch of malarkey. I'd ask you to prove this through statements, not feats, but you wouldn't be able to do that. If I can't prove you wrong, you always win (in your own mind at least). And what is wrong with feats ? first time hearing that feats are useless It is what it is. GT and Movies proved that Goku gets huge power ups for illogical reasons, M8 SSJ Goku would crush anyone, because his power was what the plot demanded him, just like Goku mastering UI in 3 mins, Movie 4, Goku getting powers in GT or dragon fist



+ Emmeth	May 27 2018, 11:15 AM Post #21
I ♥ Yoeri Posts: 20,075 Group: Legend Member #8,985 Joined: February 7, 2013 Country Japan	Feats aren't useless, but statements trumps them. When it's understood that movie villains get stronger and stronger, why are we arguing 2+1=3 and other dumb theories? You're playing Devil's advocate at that point, and that's always a losing side.
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Billa	May 27 2018, 11:20 AM Post #22
Thala na Gethu! Posts: 4,218 Group: Member Member #7,273 Joined: February 3, 2012 Favourite Anime Nothin What Browser do you use? Nothin Favourite Manga Nothin	SSJ2 Gohan is strong. In terms of power, he vastly outclasses Broly But power alone doesnt determine victor. Unless we're talkin bout TOEI's asspulls from M4 @ Lord Slug or "TOEI's miracle punch" from M8 or SSJ3 Goku's Dragon Fist @ Hiru In all those 3 circumstances, Goku was vastly outclassed in terms of power, yet pulled-out a win. Call it luck or TOEI armor Bojack did better compared to his minions who were "sliced" by mere punches 1. Dude survived a hole thru his gut. 2. Used a Finisher counterin SSJ2 Gohan's Kamehameha 3. Mfker even leaped INTO the Beam Struggle and God knows what happened.....like seriously...just dafuq happened? I frankly believe Broly could withstand much more brutal punishments. Dude survived stab thru his chest as newborn. You think a hole thru his gut is gonna slow him down? I dont know bout the "fantualized" theory of power inside Broly + Kakarot's power filled punch made Broly explode. Dats not how chi works. At least in DBZ up till dat point (Cell Games) What I do know is Broly's lunatic. Dude survived explosion of Planet Vegeta (just think about his shield barrier), survived explosion of Fake Planet Vegeta, survived larva, hell would've survived Family Kamehameha had not Sun's core was conspiring in favor of Goku's sons With such feats, I think Broly's much durable, agile & one tough mfker dat could take brutal punishments compared to Bojack In terms of fighting prowess, Broly's got an edge here. Compared to SSJ2 Gohan's lazyass "one hit at a time routine", Broly would smash, clothesline, roundhouse kick & stomp his foe into the mud for good



I'll Take This	May 27 2018, 01:27 PM Post #23
Posts: 682 Group: Member Member #12,288 Joined: May 1, 2015	Emmeth May 27 2018, 11:15 AM Feats aren't useless, but statements trumps them. When it's understood that movie villains get stronger and stronger, why are we arguing 2+1=3 and other dumb theories? You're playing Devil's advocate at that point, and that's always a losing side. Not really, feats and statements are the same and overcome each other any time, none are greater then each other. Feats show Goku got far more power then the logical 1 + 1 = 2. And no, it was stated that movie villains are SUPPOSEDLY meant to be stronger, however, with Broly that failed, because they couldn't find anyone stronger then Broly, thus making him appear 3 times. Plus it's also against people Goku fights, Goku didn't fight Bojack, thus Bojack isn't applying to the situation at all with that. In another statement by the author, he states Broly survives because he was set up as the strongest saiyan, making him stronger then Bojack and Gohan. Statement wise again, Hatchiyack was said to be the strongest Ki and the satan city sign was their at the end of the movie, meaning he happens after Cell games, which means Hatchiyack > Gohan and SPC, and Goku compared Hatchiyack to Broly feeling he MIGHT be stronger. And M10 shown that SSJ - LSSJ is greater boost then SSJ - SSJ2, and to add on top of all that, RSSJ Broly was already stronger then SSJ Gohan. What evidence is their to suggest Gohan is stronger ? Because it contradicts so much if he was



+ Emmeth	May 27 2018, 01:45 PM Post #24
I ♥ Yoeri Posts: 20,075 Group: Legend Member #8,985 Joined: February 7, 2013 Country Japan	I'll Take This May 27 2018, 01:27 PM What evidence is their to suggest Gohan is stronger ? Because it contradicts so much if he was Goku vs Gohan during the Cell Games. Goku was already super drained when fighting Broly, so was the other Zet-senshi. Logic dictates they wouldn't have enough power to surpass Super Saiyan 2, which was at least 2x stronger then themselves. SSJ Goku M8 - 15 LSSJ Broly - 22-23 SSJ Goku M8 (loaned powers) - possibly 30. SSJ Gohan (CG) - 18-20 SSJ2 Gohan (CG) - 36-40 Cell, Broly and Bojack could all be in the same ballpark because Gohan's SSJ2 power is just absurd.
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Jiren	May 27 2018, 02:42 PM Post #25
Posts: 158 Group: Member Member #13,809 Joined: March 14, 2017	Movie 8 Broli is nowhere near Bojack or Cell... Takao Koyama indirectly tells us how the movies work when he says the next movie villain is stronger than the last.. Every movie follows an arc in the series and the Z senshi are stronger in every arc thus the villain is stronger too... Already proven



Jiren	May 27 2018, 02:49 PM Post #26
Posts: 158 Group: Member Member #13,809 Joined: March 14, 2017	StrenuousSpider May 27 2018, 05:08 AM The whole the next movie villian is stronger then the last is a load of bull which should not be used as an argument that bojack is stronger then broly. As much as i dislike both these characters broly seems much stronger to me then bojack. Hatchiyack >= Lssj broly And im pretty sure they were cell games level there thats where we can put goku in Broly movie. So id say ssj2 gohan would fair ok against broly but because of how brolys form works he would outlast gohan even if gohan had a power advantage. Its bulp because you say so? Lol its sraed thus its fact The Harchiyacj movie is an excuse... Most of it is a video game and if goku mentions Broli then they are not CG becuase they are not in movie 8. They are pre cell games... That explains why Gohan is not SSjin 2.. trunks has short hair and he and Vegeta are ASSjin... Gohan is still in par with Trunks like in movie 8.. And all the atributes of the OVA are taken from the 10 days... Read this thread which should leave you no doubts http://dbzf.co.uk/topic/10015355/2/#new



+ Pointer	May 27 2018, 04:57 PM Post #27
... Posts: 7,062 Group: Elite Member Member #8,812 Joined: January 5, 2013 Gender Male	Well they say m10 broly in ssj was above his lssj from m8 Gohan was roasted by lssj m10 broly The same gohan who trained after m9 Thus M10 lssj > m10 ssj2 gohan > m9 ssj2 gohan



Jiren	May 27 2018, 05:00 PM Post #28
Posts: 158 Group: Member Member #13,809 Joined: March 14, 2017	Gohan was never said to train.. Stop distorting what was said M10 SSjin Broli was not said to be stronger than M8 LSSjin too but was implied... That also proves M8 Broli is just CG FPSSjin tier as his M10 SSjin self is compared to Boo Saga SSjin Goku Edited by Jiren, May 27 2018, 05:03 PM.



+ Pointer	May 27 2018, 05:13 PM Post #29
... Posts: 7,062 Group: Elite Member Member #8,812 Joined: January 5, 2013 Gender Male	He flatout stated that " you are not the only one who got stronger since we met " How else can you misinterpret that line ? How else he got stronger if not by training You clearly can not believe that m8 broly was only mssj tier. Broly while being suppressed by that chain stuff was said to be superstrong by goku himself. He wasnt even in lssj and goku said he is not sure if he can beat him that alone proves that suppressed broly >= mssj goku m8 After that broly powered up twice. The second one was the transformation. And you still think he can be fit within cg 50 goku and cg 100 goku ? No way Edited by Pointer, May 27 2018, 05:19 PM.



+ Emmeth	May 27 2018, 05:17 PM Post #30
I ♥ Yoeri Posts: 20,075 Group: Legend Member #8,985 Joined: February 7, 2013 Country Japan	Pointer May 27 2018, 05:13 PM He flatout stated that " you are not the only one who got stronger since we met " How else can you misinterpret that line ? How else he got stronger if not by training Gohan is stronger than last time he faced Broly, but he's not at his strongest since Cell Games.
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