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PLs for the entirety of Z
Topic Started: Jan 6 2018, 07:00 AM (869 Views)
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Saiyan arc

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Namek arc

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Android & Cell Arc

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Boo Arc

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...Ok but why 700x for USSj? It could've just as easily been on par with SSj2 or a little more, but 700x is just too much @,@ If it really was that big of a power boost, then why would they go onto SSj2 instead of trying to perfect USSj into a slimmer form?
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Good list, but wasn't Goku over 9000?
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I'm a bit confused how Gohan goes from 68,000,000 during the Cell games to 300,000 in the Buu Saga. I can't imagine him losing such an insane amount of power.
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Nappa seems quite a bit low. As does Guldo, he's weak but he definitely shouldn't be as low as 1,000. Where's Gohan's Zenkai/further unlock and Krillin's further unlock after eating senzu from their beating from Recoome? Vegeta's second Zenkai is way too low, he should be much closer to Frieza and there should be a difference in his level after he took a nap. The boost for Super Saiyan Grade 3 is way too high. Why are #19 and #20 below Frieza? Once again 3rd Grade Trunks is way too high, he should be below 50% FP SS Goku. Gohan's power shouldn't have down that low and Goten and Trunks are too low as well. All three should be raised much higher. Super Saiyan Gotenks should be above Super Saiyan 3 Goku as Goku said he would be more powerful. It's true Gohan shouldn't be stronger than Fat Buu, but it was still a question posed whether or not he could defeat him after training with the Z-Sword. He should definitely be closer. Still all Goten and Trunks power levels are too low. The gap between Ultimate Gohan and SS3 Gotenks is way too large. Kid Buu should be closer to SS3 Goku's full power. You have Buuhan stronger than Super Saiyan Vegito which is a big problem seeing as how Vegito was clearly much stronger. Also South Supreme Kai seems way too high his power is better left out of power level lists imo.
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-The Daizenshuu labels Nappa at 4,000.

-V Jump puts Vegeta at 250,000 after his zenkai.

-Grade 3 is officially stated to be 10x stronger than Grade 2.

-Pre Rosat Gotenks is stated to be weaker than Vegeta.

-Ultimate Gohan is shown to be over 100x stronger than SSJ3 Gotenks in Super. Goku and Gohan fought evenly on the farm in base and SSJ, yet SSJ2 Gohan is still weaker than Boo arc Ultimate Gohan.

-Vegito's power level was a typo. It's fixed now.
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Jan 9 2018, 02:05 AM
-The Daizenshuu labels Nappa at 4,000.

-V Jump puts Vegeta at 250,000 after his zenkai.

-Grade 3 is officially stated to be 10x stronger than Grade 2.

-Pre Rosat Gotenks is stated to be weaker than Vegeta.

-Ultimate Gohan is shown to be over 100x stronger than SSJ3 Gotenks in Super. Goku and Gohan fought evenly on the farm in base and SSJ, yet SSJ2 Gohan is still weaker than Boo arc Ultimate Gohan.

-Vegito's power level was a typo. It's fixed now.
Doesn't make it accurate. Once Nappa cooled down he was able to contend with Goku and Goku even admitted that it'd take him a while to beat Nappa.

Still doesn't make it accurate and that's probably his level before his nap. Vegeta was well aware of Frieza's 530,000 power level and told Frieza to transform. He would not have been that confident if he was at 250,000.

When was Grade 3 stated to be 10x stronger than Grade 2?

When was Gotenks stated to be weaker than Vegeta? Goku said Gotenks would be stronger than himself.

Super was made quite a bit after Z, I wouldn't use it as a source when much has been forgotten and there are lots of inconsistencies.

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-It's his official given level and there's nothing in the story that says the fight.

-Vegeta was confident because he had backup. He was depending on Gohan and Krillin's power for support.

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"Trunks acquires a force 10 times greater, but his movement skills are more limited."

-The Daizenshuu states that Gotenks didn't surpass Vegeta until he entered the ROSAT. And Gotenks did end up stronger than Goku anyway.

-Still have to take Super into account since it is part of the series.
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The problem is is that you're using guidebooks and these statements and levels contradict the series. So why use them if its clear they're incorrect?
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I'm not seeing how they're incorrect.
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Grade 3 is 10x SSJ? And you used a SPANISH source, not even a Japanese one? You can't quite consider that official.

A random V-Jump issue said that Freeza would have been 200 million if he went full power without being damaged by the spirit bomb. That has been forgotten by time though, no one references it, not even since it was released in the 90s. I think the only guides to use should be the Daizenshuu and Super Exciting Guide.
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Why would Grade 3 be 10x Grade 2 ? As someone pointed out, it came from a spanish source and not a Japanese one, and it would contradict with official numbers given, such as SSJ2 being only two times as strong as SSJ, and SSJ3 being 8x times stronger than it.

It's ridiculous to think that Buff Cell is literally times stronger than SSJ2 Gohan when the latter made him regurgitate 18 with only a single kick.
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Jan 9 2018, 08:59 AM
Why would Grade 3 be 10x Grade 2 ? As someone pointed out, it came from a spanish source and not a Japanese one, and it would contradict with official numbers given, such as SSJ2 being only two times as strong as SSJ, and SSJ3 being 8x times stronger than it.

It's ridiculous to think that Buff Cell is literally times stronger than SSJ2 Gohan when the latter made him regurgitate 18 with only a single kick.
i've seen the 10x multipler also on db wiki
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Jan 11 2018, 10:43 PM
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Jan 9 2018, 08:59 AM
Why would Grade 3 be 10x Grade 2 ? As someone pointed out, it came from a spanish source and not a Japanese one, and it would contradict with official numbers given, such as SSJ2 being only two times as strong as SSJ, and SSJ3 being 8x times stronger than it.

It's ridiculous to think that Buff Cell is literally times stronger than SSJ2 Gohan when the latter made him regurgitate 18 with only a single kick.
i've seen the 10x multipler also on db wiki
That's not the most reliable source.
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Jan 12 2018, 04:08 AM
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Why would Grade 3 be 10x Grade 2 ? As someone pointed out, it came from a spanish source and not a Japanese one, and it would contradict with official numbers given, such as SSJ2 being only two times as strong as SSJ, and SSJ3 being 8x times stronger than it.

It's ridiculous to think that Buff Cell is literally times stronger than SSJ2 Gohan when the latter made him regurgitate 18 with only a single kick.
i've seen the 10x multipler also on db wiki
That's not the most reliable source.
not saying it is and i know its one of the worst places to go

im just saying thats where you can find it also
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