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After we die
Topic Started: Nov 29 2017, 12:44 AM (5,372 Views)
* Yu Narukami
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Izanagi!

Can you post a summary of what you're arguing? To be completely honest, I'm totally lost.
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Daemon Keido
Feb 8 2018, 10:32 PM
It is synonomous in literary use only, not scientific use because transmutation is not a scientific execution that can be done because it cannot be done.
no, its synonymous period

the definition of transmutation is "the act of changing OR the state of being changed into another form.

not the act of turning lead to gold

sublimation is


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CHEMISTRY. the act, fact, or process of subliming (
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a purification or refinement; ennoblement.


so once again, yes, they are synonymous.
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Daemon Keido
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You are forgetting why transmutation exists in the lexicon:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnum_opus_(alchemy)
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Daemon Keido
Feb 8 2018, 10:41 PM
You are forgetting why transmutation exists in the lexicon:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnum_opus_(alchemy)
doesnt matter, the definition of transmutation is change or being changed, thats it. its not turning lead into gold.
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Daemon Keido
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Yes it is. But if you will not admit that, there is little I can do in your debate.
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the best you have is energy.as everything is energy.same goes for consciousness.energy doesn't destroy it changes form.this is the best proof you will have of afterlife.
also if some people still cannot grasp on what we are getting on about then don't bother replying since it will lead nowhere but if you understand then good
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This conversation has gotten very far off topic, Either talk about what happens after we die, or make a new thread to talk about this new conversation you are having. If we keep going off topic I am going to lock the thread.
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Yu Narukami
Feb 8 2018, 10:32 PM
Can you post a summary of what you're arguing? To be completely honest, I'm totally lost.
to put it in the simplest terms i possibly can im arguing that if before you were born there was absolutely nothing and you die and you return to that same nothingness then simple logic concludes that eventually and inevitably you will come back to something.

if you say you only live once then thats pretty much means there is a God because there would need to be someone or something keeping track of whos lived and died.

im saying if 1 is life and 0 is death then 1+0= 1 when means life + death = life. i mean its simple.

doesnt make sense that we only live once its ridiculous to believe the universe is so vast and so old millions and billions of years and for the first billions of years i was just nowhere didnt even exist? thats absolutely ridiculous. and then after a billion years i just decided to pop up here for literally no apparent reason thinking about it logically i conclude that the reason i showed up here in this carnation at this time is because of all my past incarnations which lead me here. but the bottom line is that if you just woke up one day from nothingness, why would you not think they may happen again after your physical body dies? you didnt have a physical body before you were born and that didnt stop you.

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Feb 8 2018, 10:45 PM
Yes it is. But if you will not admit that, there is little I can do in your debate.
if you insist that it is then provide the definition to support what you are saying as i have.
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Daemon Keido
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I don't understand your reasoning that we must come back to something. Why is that an inevitablilty?
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i am fairly certain many things that have been stated by halfblood or me here have been misundertood as in we may mean something but others will think of something else to what we actually mean.

an example lets just say we say a butterfly lost its ability to fly.some people will think that we meant the butterfly lost its wing but thats not actually the case we clearly meant something else.i am just giving an example of what the situation may be here.

since this may be most likely the case here.

don't worry those thing can be hard to undertand unless you take your time on it.
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It might be easier to understand you two if you write in a more traditional way. It's hard to parse your words without grammar.
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Feb 9 2018, 12:06 AM
I don't understand your reasoning that we must come back to something. Why is that an inevitablilty?
because you already did. you were already dead for all intents and purposes in every practical sense; in every important respect you were dead. you can say that in order to be dead you have to have been alive at some point. EXACTLY and in order to be alive you have to have been dead at some point. you may be confused but its really simple when you think about it. you did have another body before, thats why you were dead before you were born because you had previously died lol and thats why you are conceived because your life and your death equals your new conception. thats why in the womb for the first couple months after conception youre at a zero point with out polarity. you're neither male nor female at the time of conception. you are neither dead or alive because you are a new creation. your life and your death comes together and you are reborn.

thats why scientist have been coming up with theories that we live in a computer generated reality because computer code is like the codes in quantum physics. and computer code is Binary! 0's and 1's. things dont sync up by chance. its because physical reality is actually a fractal. A fractal is a never-ending pattern. Fractals are infinitely complex patterns that are self-similar across different scales. They are created by repeating a simple process over and over in an ongoing feedback loop.

we can see the fractal through polarity.

take a tree for example its branches look the same as the veins in the leaves.

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but it also has roots as well as branches

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so in other words an ant walking on a leaf may not know it but he can see the whole tree in that one leaf.

so our lives are connected to nature. its a philosophical concept youve probably heard of and they even made a movie about it called "As Above So Below" where a group of people enter into the underground catacombs of paris which is said to be the entrance to hell. they traverse through the catacombs just so they can come out above ground again almost making the whole trip seem pointless but of course its not pointless, you just have to be paying attention.
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Daemon Keido
Feb 9 2018, 02:27 AM
It might be easier to understand you two if you write in a more traditional way. It's hard to parse your words without grammar.
and may you point out what is wrong with our grammar please?
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