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After we die
Topic Started: Nov 29 2017, 12:44 AM (5,375 Views)
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Feb 6 2018, 07:48 PM
I still don't know why people consider themselves as beings far above mere physics. We are basically just a bunch of cells aware of ourselves. Doesn't make us THAT special. Do you have any proof we are THAT special?*

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im not saying we are any more special than any other creature on planet earth. i just do not think the material is all there is to life. even current scientific theories support that view.
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The thing is, the cycle of day and night is completely disconnected from the 'cycle' of life and death. Associate life with the Sun and death with the Night if you want, there's no actual link between the two sets of things.
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Feb 6 2018, 08:15 PM
The thing is, the cycle of day and night is completely disconnected from the 'cycle' of life and death. Associate life with the Sun and death with the Night if you want, there's no actual link between the two sets of things.
no they are both polarities of positive and negative. 2 opposing forces that actually form a whole.

day and night is fire and water

fire is light, passion, fuel, energy = life.


water is dark, cool, and translucent = death

many predators hunt under the cover of night and the light provides protection for continued life so actually, yes they are connected.
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Feb 6 2018, 08:33 PM
fire is light, passion, fuel, energy = life.


water is dark, cool, and translucent = death
Nah. Fire is just oxidation of stuff. Water is 2 molecules of Hydrogen mixed with 1 of Oxygen. And usually it has a whole culture of microorganisms inside. Still don't know how that proves that there's life after death.
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Feb 6 2018, 07:48 PM
I still don't know why people consider themselves as beings far above mere physics. We are basically just a bunch of cells aware of ourselves. Doesn't make us THAT special. Do you have any proof we are THAT special?*

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Have you ever studied microbiology ? Or do you know exactly how can we reproduce a living cell from molecules out of nothing?


If you can answer that sure i will answer your question
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It's comforting to me to believe in something after death, but in the end it's what you make of it. It might scare you now, but when you grow older you'll probably learn to appreciate what death means, whatever it means for us after.

This is why religion can be so comforting because most of them have some sort of belief in an afterlife.[/i]
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Feb 6 2018, 08:33 PM
fire is light, passion, fuel, energy = life.


water is dark, cool, and translucent = death
Nah. Fire is just oxidation of stuff. Water is 2 molecules of Hydrogen mixed with 1 of Oxygen. And usually it has a whole culture of microorganisms inside. Still don't know how that proves that there's life after death.
im talking about polarity 2 extreme opposites, yin and yang forces of positive and negative dont insult yourself by acting like you cant understand these simple concepts.
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What you are talking about has no scientific correllation or causation effect noted. You haven't proven anything while talking about polarity in such broad terms.

Yin and Yang is a philosophical consideration, not scientific fact. Daoism used auch observations to explain why things are as they are but that doesn't automatically overrule known science.

Also, take care to be a bit less personal. In this section, that last commsnt can get you warned or worse. We can have discourse and disagreements without delving into insults.
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What you are talking about has no scientific correllation or causation effect noted. You haven't proven anything while talking about polarity in such broad terms.

Yin and Yang is a philosophical consideration, not scientific fact. Daoism used auch observations to explain why thiings are as they are but that doesn't automatically ovsrrule known science.

Also, take care to be a bit less personal. In this section, that last commsnt can get you warned or worse. We can have discourse and disagreements without delving into insults.
what is considered scientific or not?there is no proof morality exist in a science point of view but we believe it exists due to philosophical views i guess
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Actually we can identify morality based on brain scans in an MRI with a selection of certain images being shown to the scanned person. Brain activity changes depending on how moral or immoral the image shown is in relation to the scanned person's personal moral compass.
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Actually we can identify morality based on brain scans in an MRI with a selection of certain images being shown to the scanned person. Brain activity changes depending on how moral or immoral the image shown is in relation to the scanned person's personal moral compass.
you do realise am talking about literate moral right?(let me guess you don't),as in is it wrong to kill animals for food?but if it is wrong then why can't we kill human for food since humans are in fact animals and there are chimpanzee that eat their own kind , so why should it be wrong for humans to do the same since we are supposed to be related to them.i mean we can't say for sure its right or wrong to do the same like them but we belive its wrong due to philosophy
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We have a baseline for morality that pretty much all human civilizations followed: be nice to each other, don't be an unhelpful person in any way. While there are undoubtedly myriad differences, theft, murder and physical beatings have universally been considered bad by all people.

However, this isn't a thread for discussing human morality, but the theory of life after death. Which has no scientific evidence to prove that there is an afterlife.
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We have a baseline for morality that pretty much all human civilizations followed: be nice to each other, don't be an unhelpful person in any way. While there are undoubtedly myriad differences, theft, murder and physical beatings have universally been considered bad by all people.

However, this isn't a thread for discussing human morality, but the theory of life after death. Which has no scientific evidence to prove that there is an afterlife.
you prove exactly my point.all of those are just phylosophies which you mentioned.somethings don't have any scientific point of view yet but we accept them.so,while they don't you should take a philosophical view of it meanwhile and see if you can find the answer in philosophy.
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Feb 6 2018, 08:33 PM
fire is light, passion, fuel, energy = life.


water is dark, cool, and translucent = death
Nah. Fire is just oxidation of stuff. Water is 2 molecules of Hydrogen mixed with 1 of Oxygen. And usually it has a whole culture of microorganisms inside. Still don't know how that proves that there's life after death.
im talking about polarity 2 extreme opposites, yin and yang forces of positive and negative dont insult yourself by acting like you cant understand these simple concepts.
Stay chill, 'cause I'm not. Because they're not concepts at all, nor scientific facts as Demon Kaedo pointed out. They're mere metaphors, I studied such those in highschool, in Literature classes. Still doesn't prove anything.

I also left some other post unattended.

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Have you ever studied microbiology ? Or do you know exactly how can we reproduce a living cell from molecules out of nothing?


If you can answer that sure i will answer your question


No, it wasn't in my field at all. But if you can provide a study with researches you yourself find sensible and accurate, I'd be more than happy to take that into consideration.

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I don't see why anyone is still mentioning scientific views in those things when we all know there are none just like stuff like time,morality etc...the point is we already know there is no scientific proof for any of those especially afterlife so why mention science here?since we already know there are no scientific proof for it.so don't put science in those things as it won't be fair.instead we should take a philosophical stance on it, as if we keep repeating our argument on it based on science we won't get anywhere.no sides wins a debate.I mean no scientist is able to discover afterlife yet so how the hell are we supposed to get anywhere on this.so the point is we take a philosophical approach to it
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