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Feb 9 2018, 01:00 PM
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This has become such a pointless thread now. halfbloodprince and jason vorhees just keep making assumptions about what they think life is all about and how it works, and then they want us to debate them. There is nothing to debate though because we can't even acknowledge those assumptions. The burden of proof has defeated halfbloodprince and jason vorhees before they even post. Either that or they shouldn't have tried to get into a debate with beliefs that are 100% based on assuming things.
You see guys, we're not bothered by your beliefs, we can honestly accept anyone having any idea. But you guys are being so adamant and passive-aggressive about being right when your beliefs do not carry the evidence it needs to be regarded as valid discussion points.
You guys keep saying i have no evidence but i have given evidence the law of polarity ive literally had to explain myself dozens of times. I even said we live in a fractal and its like an ant walking on a leaf. The ant doesnt know it but he can see the whole tree in that one leaf. Im simply stating my opinion im not forcing any one to believe what i say. You say the burden of proof is mine when really irs yours all im saying is that we will come out of darkness into life which already happened youre the one whos saying that youd stay in that darkness forever even though you were already born out of it. Im saying death is another side of life that makes it whole. Youre saying death is just the end.
"I even said we live in a fractal and its like an ant walking on a leaf." "im saying is that we will come out of darkness into life which already happened" "Im saying death is another side of life that makes it whole." Right so you realize that all of these are assumptions right? You do realize you're just saying things and not giving evidence?
Its not an assumption, we did come out of darkness to life and life is a fractal of polarities if u dont know what a fractal is look it up
I know exactly what fractals are, don't you worry. And yes, you are still making assumptions. "we did come out of darkness to life" "life is a fractal of polarities" These are just assumptions, and vague ones at that. As long as you do not explain yourself you are just making statements without any backup. Also stop telling people they should look up stuff. Makes you look like an elitist prick. I didnt assume we come out of darkness to life thats exactly what happened. And its not an assumption we live in a fractal of polarity thats a fact think of the polarities that govern life
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"I didnt assume we come out of darkness to life thats exactly what happened" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circular_reasoning
" And its not an assumption we live in a fractal of polarity thats a fact think of the polarities that govern life" Again, you are not explaining yourself and being vague on purpose.
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or maybe something cannot just be explained in simple sentences.he is not being vague.I mean you know this is why we have countless books, all those knowledge halfblood has gathered cannot be explained in just a few sentences .can knowledge from reading dozens of books be explained in a few sentences???tell me...so he is right when he says you have to look things up,I don't see how he is an elitist prick.....because if we keep commenting this will eventually lead to page 50.
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or maybe something cannot just be explained in simple sentences.I mean you know this is why we have countless books, all those knowledge halfblood has gathered cannot be explained in just a few sentences .can knowledge from reading dozens of books be explained in a few sentences???tell me...so he is right when he says you have to look things up,I don't see how he is an elitist prick.....because if we keep commenting this will eventually lead to page 50. Except we're just asking him to explain one assumption. If he needs 50 pages to do so, perhaps his point is not as strong as he thinks.
And yes you are being an elitist prick: "all those knowledge halfblood has gathered" yet neither of you can type an entire post with proper grammar or make one compelling argument in an entire discussion. Instead of talking down to people consider you might need to be more convincing.
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"I didnt assume we come out of darkness to life thats exactly what happened" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circular_reasoning" And its not an assumption we live in a fractal of polarity thats a fact think of the polarities that govern life" Again, you are not explaining yourself and being vague on purpose. No i already have explained my self but if it helps you ill quote the opening post on this thread
" There's no consciousness without a functioning brain, thus no "afterlife" for us. When we die: well, do you remember anything before you were born? While everything that has ever happened was happening, it was just nothingness to you; pretty much the same after death - that nothingness."
So its not an assumption eveyone knows we came out of a blank space into life But he says theres no consciousness with put a brain well if that were true hed have never been born would he?
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or maybe something cannot just be explained in simple sentences.I mean you know this is why we have countless books, all those knowledge halfblood has gathered cannot be explained in just a few sentences .can knowledge from reading dozens of books be explained in a few sentences???tell me...so he is right when he says you have to look things up,I don't see how he is an elitist prick.....because if we keep commenting this will eventually lead to page 50.
Except we're just asking him to explain one assumption. If he needs 50 pages to do so, perhaps his point is not as strong as he thinks. somethings cannot be explained in just one sentence mate.stop getting things over your head.if things could just be explained in 1 sentence there wouldn't be so many books written about the mysteries of life and you know am right on this. its not that halfblood is vague.its just that those things cannot be understood in just a few words thats all edit:you prove exactly my point if you are not willing to listen to what we are saying because you know if you were willing you would look some of the things up yourself instead of us taking over 20 pages to get to a point which it would eventually cone to that unless we give up on explaining it
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"I didnt assume we come out of darkness to life thats exactly what happened" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circular_reasoning" And its not an assumption we live in a fractal of polarity thats a fact think of the polarities that govern life" Again, you are not explaining yourself and being vague on purpose.
No i already have explained my self but if it helps you ill quote the opening post on this thread " There's no consciousness without a functioning brain, thus no "afterlife" for us. When we die: well, do you remember anything before you were born? While everything that has ever happened was happening, it was just nothingness to you; pretty much the same after death - that nothingness." So its not an assumption eveyone knows we came out of a blank space into life But he says theres no consciousness with put a brain well if that were true hed have never been born would he? What are you talking about? There's no consciousness without a brain, exactly. So he'd have never been born? What are you talking about, how do you get to this conclusion? You do realize a brain develops slowly when a baby is inside his mother? The brain develops and generates a consciousness, when you die everything in your brain, all the signal and neurons stop working. So too does your consciousness in that regard. It'll be like before you were born, a complete lack of consciousness, which is an unfathomable feeling.
Every time you start reasoning you're missing multiple steps in your logic, you go from one point to an unrelated irrelevant assumption.
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or maybe something cannot just be explained in simple sentences.I mean you know this is why we have countless books, all those knowledge halfblood has gathered cannot be explained in just a few sentences .can knowledge from reading dozens of books be explained in a few sentences???tell me...so he is right when he says you have to look things up,I don't see how he is an elitist prick.....because if we keep commenting this will eventually lead to page 50.
Except we're just asking him to explain one assumption. If he needs 50 pages to do so, perhaps his point is not as strong as he thinks.
somethings cannot be explained in just one sentence mate.stop getting things over your head.if things could just be explained in 1 sentence there wouldn't be so many books written about the mysteries of life and you know am right on this. its not that halfblood is vague.its just that those things cannot be understood in just a few words thats all edit:you prove exactly my point if you are not willing to listen to what we are saying because you know if you were willing you would look some of the things up yourself instead of us taking over 20 pages to get to a point which it would eventually cone to that unless we give up on explaining it Please, get over yourself. We understand every single word you're saying, we're just pointing out your numerous flaws in logic. Saying that it goes above our heads and that you simply can't explain it in one sentence is not helping your case, it's confirming your incapability of defending your beliefs.
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"I didnt assume we come out of darkness to life thats exactly what happened" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circular_reasoning" And its not an assumption we live in a fractal of polarity thats a fact think of the polarities that govern life" Again, you are not explaining yourself and being vague on purpose.
No i already have explained my self but if it helps you ill quote the opening post on this thread " There's no consciousness without a functioning brain, thus no "afterlife" for us. When we die: well, do you remember anything before you were born? While everything that has ever happened was happening, it was just nothingness to you; pretty much the same after death - that nothingness." So its not an assumption eveyone knows we came out of a blank space into life But he says theres no consciousness with put a brain well if that were true hed have never been born would he?
What are you talking about? There's no consciousness without a brain, exactly. So he'd have never been born? What are you talking about, how do you get to this conclusion? You do realize a brain develops slowly when a baby is inside his mother? The brain develops and generates a consciousness, when you die everything in your brain, all the signal and neurons stop working. So too does your consciousness in that regard. It'll be like before you were born, a complete lack of consciousness, which is an unfathomable feeling. Every time you start reasoning you're missing multiple steps in your logic, you go from one point to an unrelated irrelevant assumption. Ok i love how u guys act like what is rocket science and you just dont understand.
What im saying is simple. If there is no consciousness with out the brain hed never have become conscious he didn't have a brain but that didnt stop him from developing one.
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"I didnt assume we come out of darkness to life thats exactly what happened" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circular_reasoning" And its not an assumption we live in a fractal of polarity thats a fact think of the polarities that govern life" Again, you are not explaining yourself and being vague on purpose.
No i already have explained my self but if it helps you ill quote the opening post on this thread " There's no consciousness without a functioning brain, thus no "afterlife" for us. When we die: well, do you remember anything before you were born? While everything that has ever happened was happening, it was just nothingness to you; pretty much the same after death - that nothingness." So its not an assumption eveyone knows we came out of a blank space into life But he says theres no consciousness with put a brain well if that were true hed have never been born would he?
What are you talking about? There's no consciousness without a brain, exactly. So he'd have never been born? What are you talking about, how do you get to this conclusion? You do realize a brain develops slowly when a baby is inside his mother? The brain develops and generates a consciousness, when you die everything in your brain, all the signal and neurons stop working. So too does your consciousness in that regard. It'll be like before you were born, a complete lack of consciousness, which is an unfathomable feeling. Every time you start reasoning you're missing multiple steps in your logic, you go from one point to an unrelated irrelevant assumption.
Ok i love how u guys act like what is rocket science and you just dont understand. What im saying is simple. If there is no consciousness with out the brain hed never have become conscious he didn't have a brain but that didnt stop him from developing one. Because you don't consciously develop a brain....... It's the result of millions of years of evolution
Where are you guys from btw?
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or maybe something cannot just be explained in simple sentences.I mean you know this is why we have countless books, all those knowledge halfblood has gathered cannot be explained in just a few sentences .can knowledge from reading dozens of books be explained in a few sentences???tell me...so he is right when he says you have to look things up,I don't see how he is an elitist prick.....because if we keep commenting this will eventually lead to page 50.
Except we're just asking him to explain one assumption. If he needs 50 pages to do so, perhaps his point is not as strong as he thinks.
somethings cannot be explained in just one sentence mate.stop getting things over your head.if things could just be explained in 1 sentence there wouldn't be so many books written about the mysteries of life and you know am right on this. its not that halfblood is vague.its just that those things cannot be understood in just a few words thats all edit:you prove exactly my point if you are not willing to listen to what we are saying because you know if you were willing you would look some of the things up yourself instead of us taking over 20 pages to get to a point which it would eventually cone to that unless we give up on explaining it
Please, get over yourself. We understand every single word you're saying, we're just pointing out your numerous flaws in logic. Saying that it goes above our heads and that you simply can't explain it in one sentence is not helping your case, it's confirming your incapability of defending your beliefs. you are proving exactly my point.you won't listen when we tell you those things cannot be understood easily.if we tell you to look something up you look it up ok.or else you are just wasting our time as you don't wabt to understand what we are saying because to understand you would hhave to look up somethings we mean unless you want us to go over 20 page.do I have to repeat myself again or has this been made clear to you.if you still can't understand then maybe I shall repeat it again for you next time so maybe you might actually listen and do what we are saying or don't bother replying since it would then show you are not bothered trying to learn or understand any of those things.
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"I didnt assume we come out of darkness to life thats exactly what happened" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circular_reasoning" And its not an assumption we live in a fractal of polarity thats a fact think of the polarities that govern life" Again, you are not explaining yourself and being vague on purpose.
No i already have explained my self but if it helps you ill quote the opening post on this thread " There's no consciousness without a functioning brain, thus no "afterlife" for us. When we die: well, do you remember anything before you were born? While everything that has ever happened was happening, it was just nothingness to you; pretty much the same after death - that nothingness." So its not an assumption eveyone knows we came out of a blank space into life But he says theres no consciousness with put a brain well if that were true hed have never been born would he?
What are you talking about? There's no consciousness without a brain, exactly. So he'd have never been born? What are you talking about, how do you get to this conclusion? You do realize a brain develops slowly when a baby is inside his mother? The brain develops and generates a consciousness, when you die everything in your brain, all the signal and neurons stop working. So too does your consciousness in that regard. It'll be like before you were born, a complete lack of consciousness, which is an unfathomable feeling. Every time you start reasoning you're missing multiple steps in your logic, you go from one point to an unrelated irrelevant assumption.
Ok i love how u guys act like what is rocket science and you just dont understand. What im saying is simple. If there is no consciousness with out the brain hed never have become conscious he didn't have a brain but that didnt stop him from developing one.
Because you don't consciously develop a brain....... It's the result of millions of years of evolution Where are you guys from btw? we come from outer space😬😬😬
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A reminder to be respectful and to stay on topic, no spam posts, a bit of joking is fine but it must actually return to the point after a while.
I don't care how obvious the truth is, if you cannot make the point while being disrespectful, don't even bother typing up a response.
If I have to remind everyone again I'm closing the thread and handing out warns.
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"I didnt assume we come out of darkness to life thats exactly what happened" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circular_reasoning" And its not an assumption we live in a fractal of polarity thats a fact think of the polarities that govern life" Again, you are not explaining yourself and being vague on purpose.
No i already have explained my self but if it helps you ill quote the opening post on this thread " There's no consciousness without a functioning brain, thus no "afterlife" for us. When we die: well, do you remember anything before you were born? While everything that has ever happened was happening, it was just nothingness to you; pretty much the same after death - that nothingness." So its not an assumption eveyone knows we came out of a blank space into life But he says theres no consciousness with put a brain well if that were true hed have never been born would he?
What are you talking about? There's no consciousness without a brain, exactly. So he'd have never been born? What are you talking about, how do you get to this conclusion? You do realize a brain develops slowly when a baby is inside his mother? The brain develops and generates a consciousness, when you die everything in your brain, all the signal and neurons stop working. So too does your consciousness in that regard. It'll be like before you were born, a complete lack of consciousness, which is an unfathomable feeling. Every time you start reasoning you're missing multiple steps in your logic, you go from one point to an unrelated irrelevant assumption.
Ok i love how u guys act like what is rocket science and you just dont understand. What im saying is simple. If there is no consciousness with out the brain hed never have become conscious he didn't have a brain but that didnt stop him from developing one.
Because you don't consciously develop a brain....... It's the result of millions of years of evolution Where are you guys from btw? Yes your brain developed with out you being conscious or alive so from nothing you managed to produce a brain. But you think when you die there will be no way for that to happen again but there is no basis for that. What happened once will happen again
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"I didnt assume we come out of darkness to life thats exactly what happened" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circular_reasoning" And its not an assumption we live in a fractal of polarity thats a fact think of the polarities that govern life" Again, you are not explaining yourself and being vague on purpose.
No i already have explained my self but if it helps you ill quote the opening post on this thread " There's no consciousness without a functioning brain, thus no "afterlife" for us. When we die: well, do you remember anything before you were born? While everything that has ever happened was happening, it was just nothingness to you; pretty much the same after death - that nothingness." So its not an assumption eveyone knows we came out of a blank space into life But he says theres no consciousness with put a brain well if that were true hed have never been born would he?
What are you talking about? There's no consciousness without a brain, exactly. So he'd have never been born? What are you talking about, how do you get to this conclusion? You do realize a brain develops slowly when a baby is inside his mother? The brain develops and generates a consciousness, when you die everything in your brain, all the signal and neurons stop working. So too does your consciousness in that regard. It'll be like before you were born, a complete lack of consciousness, which is an unfathomable feeling. Every time you start reasoning you're missing multiple steps in your logic, you go from one point to an unrelated irrelevant assumption.
Ok i love how u guys act like what is rocket science and you just dont understand. What im saying is simple. If there is no consciousness with out the brain hed never have become conscious he didn't have a brain but that didnt stop him from developing one.
Because you don't consciously develop a brain....... It's the result of millions of years of evolution Where are you guys from btw?
Yes your brain developed with out you being conscious or alive so from nothing you managed to produce a brain. But you think when you die there will be no way for that to happen again but there is no basis for that. What happened once can happen again Except we can literally observe a brain developing when a baby is developing inside a woman's womb. (Which btw doesn't happen out of nowhere.) And we can also literally observe a brain decaying when someone dies. So no, you can't assume that happens. In fact, if you're assuming anything, you should assume the opposite.
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