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SSJ 4 Goku, Vegeta and Gogeta Run the Gaunlet
Topic Started: Nov 25 2017, 09:46 PM (1,905 Views)
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Scenario 1: The movies

SSG Goku(Battle of Gods)
Beerus(Battle of Gods)
Whis(Battle of Gods)
SSGSS Goku(RoF)
Golden Freeza(RoF)

Scenario 2: Super

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Final Form Freeza
Zamasu
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SSG Goku(Beerus Arc)
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SSB Vegeta(Freeza Arc)
Golden Freeza(Freeza Arc)
SSJ Rose Black
Merged Zamasu
Kefla
Beerus
Ultra Instinct Goku
Jiren
Whis


How far do each individually get on both scenarios? How far do each get as a team in both scenarios?
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They can beat everyone in the movies but they won't get passed God goku from beerus arc. They're arguably faster but God goku is overall superior
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Nov 25 2017, 09:51 PM
They can beat everyone in the movies but they won't get passed God goku from beerus arc. They're arguably faster but God goku is overall superior
Do they clear scenario one individually, or do they need to be a team to do it? Could all three as a team present an issue for Super SSG Goku?
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I think ssj4 gogeta could clear scenario one but I'm not sure if goku and vegeta individually could do it

I think maybe as a team they could be a threat to Super God goku but idk
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Gogeta should clear the Movie Gauntlet given there is no Universal feat or statement, as for Super, i have the team stopping at Final Form Frieza after his Training
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SSJ4 Goku and Vegeta stop at Whis. SSJ4 Gogeta one shots everyone from the movies.

As for the DBS Cast, Gogeta stops at SSJB Goku.
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They clear the movies, the 6/10/15 aspect makes sure o that. Heck, Baby Arc Goku could probably at least take on God Goku.

As for Super, SSj4 Goku an SSJ4 Vegeta could probably get up to God Goku (Beerus). The biggest issue is that we have no idea what Beerus used in that fight and what his comparison to Goku was. The only thing we can say is that, Vegetto is stronger if we muse the manga logic. We know he used 10% against Rage Vegeta but honestly if we use that, GT breaks Beerus' face and everyone on the list. So I suppose there is no point in using that.

As for Super Saiyan 4 Gogeta, he'd probably get up to Base Merged Zamasu. Though that's only because the potara amp was seemingly nerfed in Super. Otherwise Gogeta would probably stand around Super Saiyan Blue Goku/Vegeta normally.
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They clean all scenarios with out problem even the DBs cast

In power scaling termins DBGT > DBS
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Mike XL
Nov 25 2017, 09:46 PM
Scenario 1: The movies

SSG Goku(Battle of Gods)
Beerus(Battle of Gods)
Whis(Battle of Gods)
SSGSS Goku(RoF)
Golden Freeza(RoF)

Scenario 2: Super

Tagoma
1st form Freeza
Final Form Freeza
Zamasu
Goku Black(Initial)
SSG Goku(Beerus Arc)
SSB Goku(Freeza Arc)
SSB Vegeta(Freeza Arc)
Golden Freeza(Freeza Arc)
SSJ Rose Black
Merged Zamasu
Kefla
Beerus
Ultra Instinct Goku
Jiren
Whis


How far do each individually get on both scenarios? How far do each get as a team in both scenarios?
Super Saiyan 4 Goku at best is slightly multi galaxy level due to the fact he was able to briefly overpower Omega with his Super Dragon Fist. Generally, he's galaxy level via being able to beat on Syn however, who's galaxy level according to Popo and a guidebook. Vegeta I guess can scale to Goku sort of. Gogeta is dozens of times stronger than both of his components so he'd be multi galaxy generally.

While V-Jump stated Beerus from the movies could destroy a galaxy a lot of people don't roll with it, but I'm using it. On a lower end he's stated to being able to instantly destroy a solar system.

With these in mind, Goku and Vegeta alone can probably take Super Saiyan God Goku but the both probably equal Super Saiyan Blue Goku and Vegeta. Beerus they lose. Gogeta gets as far as Beerus.

In Super, no one you listed beats even Super Saiyan God Goku, even working as a team.
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Nov 26 2017, 03:50 PM
They clean all scenarios with out problem even the DBs cast

In power scaling termins DBGT > DBS
So really in the only way that suits your bias.
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While V-Jump stated Beerus from the movies could destroy a galaxy

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Nov 26 2017, 02:35 AM
SSJ4 Goku and Vegeta stop at Whis. SSJ4 Gogeta one shots everyone from the movies.

As for the DBS Cast, Gogeta stops at SSJB Goku.
Just curious, where do you rank SSJ 4 Gogeta on a power chart scale? SSG Goku is a least a universe buster when recklessly clashing with someone who is putting out comparable power. I don't clearly remember SSJ4 Gogetas feats or implied feats, I seem to vaguely remember him being a multi galaxy tier buster though.
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Nov 26 2017, 09:11 PM
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While V-Jump stated Beerus from the movies could destroy a galaxy

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I don't remember where it was stated but Dragon Ball wiki had it listed under statements for Beerus I think.
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Nov 26 2017, 09:14 PM
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Nov 26 2017, 02:35 AM
SSJ4 Goku and Vegeta stop at Whis. SSJ4 Gogeta one shots everyone from the movies.

As for the DBS Cast, Gogeta stops at SSJB Goku.
Just curious, where do you rank SSJ 4 Gogeta on a power chart scale? SSG Goku is a least a universe buster when recklessly clashing with someone who is putting out comparable power. I don't clearly remember SSJ4 Gogetas feats or implied feats, I seem to vaguely remember him being a multi galaxy tier buster though.


I if i go with feats, then obviously SSJG Goku is going to one shot SSJ4 Gogeta. Gogeta hasn't done much in his appearance other than toying with OS. he is almost featless.

going with Scaling and Statements, SSJG Goku is stronger than SSJ3 Vegetto (BoG) whose strength compared to Higher Tier GT Characters isn't that impressive imo. SSJ4 Gogeta >>> SSJG Goku (BoG) >> SSJ4 Goku (SD Saga) >>>> SSJ3 Vegetto (BoG).
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Most power scalers think Gt should stomp super into the ground.
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