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Has history ever been altered?
Topic Started: Nov 20 2017, 09:18 PM (307 Views)
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There were 32 assassination attempts on Adolf Hitler. They all failed. Sometimes because of things as simple as schedules being changed at the last minute or a room swap. I think that there's some kind of agency who ensures certain things don't happen. Like Hitler being killed.

Chobham armour. An incredible type of armour they use on tanks that's pretty much impervious to anything short of a helicopter missile. Now maybe it's from aliens, but I suspect that somehow in the 1960s we got hold of some plans from a time traveller and the mistake's never been corrected. Perhaps because it wasn't a huge deal? I mean tanks are kind of obsolete now anyway. Also I believe we're on our way towards world peace. So basically, no need to send enforcers back and prevent the secret from being leaked.

Gunpowder. Just like chobham, how the heck did people figure this s*** out by themselves? It's such a specific mixture plus you have to ignite it to make it work.

Roman cement. Another random invention. Mix a very specific kind of water with other agents and you get the magical Roman cement, even stronger and longer lasting than the cement we use today. Once again, how would this get discovered without temperal interference?

Anyone have any other examples?



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Computers in general, or at least chips are pretty miraculous.

Look at the insides of a computer and you can't help but think "How the f***...?"
How does it make any sense! How can those tiny bits of metal and that bit of plastic store all my porn important data!

Anyway I'm not sure, on the technology side of things I think that could just be a case of something changing the world because it's so useful that we instantly start using it everywhere we can.



Other things are a possibility. Depends on who you would imagine invents time travel, obviously smart people. Depending on their political affiliation it's possible they'd make such minute changes as to go unnoticed but to actually alter many aspects of the world, thing they could see some improvement in.
Perhaps the world was over run by barbarians much much longer and someone went back to teach the Roman's good military leadership, small suggestions that would lead to a big impact. Gunpowder could be a similar idea.
Metalworking in general is kind of a mystery, who the f*** decided to heat metals to an extreme degree...and where did they manage to pull that off? You can't reliably get to amazing heats with regular fire.
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I also wonder if somebody left Genghis Khan a map of the world? Because how the heck do a bunch of backwater Mongolians manage to conquer all of Asia and Eastern Europe in three generations?


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Nov 20 2017, 10:03 PM
I also wonder if somebody left Genghis Khan a map of the world? Because how the heck do a bunch of backwater Mongolians manage to conquer all of Asia and Eastern Europe in three generations?
The same way every hunter-gatherer society has managed to conquer land from settled poulations. This isn't a new thing by any means, look at the Assyrians, the Aryans (the Indian ones, not Nazis), the Arabians, even people like the Macedonians under Alexander. Today it's hard to think of nomadic peoples defeating the established urban nations, but that's simply because nationalism and the sheer amount of resources needed for creating adequate weaponry have changed a ton in recent times. Those days were when the Horse was still one of the fastest ways to travel, and that was all organic, there was no need for oil mines and steel and rubber plants, you just needed a well bred and well trained horse.

All nomadic people have to do is show up, demand fealty, if they refuse defeat them in battle, and leave. All these nations did something similar, with attempts at molding the people in the case of the Assyrians and Arabians coming after the conquest.

As for technology, I always felt that was giving us far too little credit as a species, it's the same reason I dislike ancient aliens so much. It attempts to appear sophisticated but it's more basic and reductive than most real attempts to understand history. Technology is not a straight line or pattern that we go down like it's Civilization 5. It's our accumulation of knowledge, and we find out different things at different rates depending on our situation, our culture, and random happenstance.

I'd say it's possible, but it's far from the most reasonable explanation, and definitely isn't the only one.
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I remember reading that people thousands of years ago actually described unidentified flying objects/monsters. Maybe these "monsters" or whatever they saw were time travelers who took their planes to the past and had fights or something or blew s*** up to destroy evidence of something. Who knows
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Are you saying Hitler was a good lad?
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No I'm saying killing him would have been a huge mistake due to the amount of his f***ups that let us win the war.


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Nov 21 2017, 03:21 PM
Are you saying Hitler was a good lad?
No he meant thaz if he wouldnt been around the germans might have won the war

Thats simple

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Or at least prolonged it for another year.


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