What do you think it'll take for gun laws to be changed in America?

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What do you think it'll take for gun laws to be changed in America?
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+ Steve	Nov 15 2017, 12:16 PM Post #1
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+ Pelador	Nov 15 2017, 12:44 PM Post #2
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* Mitas	Nov 15 2017, 01:30 PM Post #3
It truly was a Shawshank redemption Posts: 12,129 Group: Retired Staff Member #2,993 Joined: December 16, 2007 Gender Male Favourite Anime DBZ What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga DBZ, Full Metal Alchemist	With all the examples you've given, and all the attacks that have happened, I think 'never' is the best bet. If people can see hundreds of other people massacred, including children, on a regular basis and still not budge an inch, they never will. It's also probably too late. Guns are so entrenched in America, in so many homes, that one of the pro-gun arguments (taking away guns legally won't stop the illegal trade, so you'd just be giving criminals more of an edge) is probably actually true now because guns are so widely available. That wouldn't always have been the case if they had nipped it in the bud like most developed countries did, but they didn't, so mass shootings are most likely going to just be a fact of life in the US.
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+ Steve	Nov 15 2017, 02:20 PM Post #4
Greetings. I will be your waifu this season. Posts: 19,471 Group: Legend Member #5,710 Joined: February 7, 2011 Gender Male Country United Kingdom Favourite Anime Hunter x Hunter(2011) What Browser do you use? Mozilla Firefox Favourite Manga Berserk all day erry day	I'm not sure about that, I'm sure it'd get worse before it'd get better because that always happens, pretty sure that knife crime went through the roof here for a while even. But it'd be worth it in the end because domestic cases would be nowhere near as bad. If mental health care could get better too that'd contribute a lot. Obviously gangsters and whatnot would be fine and anyone truly willing to get guns illegally would have a good chance of success but that's no reason not to do it, there's about a dozen people nearby me I could go ask for some heroin. No reason to make it legal. People would still get caught out, not like everyone is a criminal mastermind. There'd be plenty dumbasses who search "Where can I buy guns illegally in Iowa?" I see why people bring that up but I don't see why people think everything would just continue as is, it's not like they'd make stricter gun laws and just ignore illegal trade, once things are stabilized focus on that. Quote: Maybe if someone shoots up the NRA headquarters or congress or something? Yeah a more political attack could do it I guess, though I bet the NRA would be like "We need to defend ourselves from these crazy liberals, guns on every corner! Take it out of the fire extinguisher budget" At some point there's bound to be an actual coordinated attack on something important like that.
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Tinny	Nov 15 2017, 04:18 PM Post #5
Posts: 6,060 Group: Super Moderator Member #12,355 Joined: May 24, 2015 Gender Not Specified Favourite Anime Silver Spoon, Fate/Zero, Legend of Galactic Heroes, Space Patrol Luluco, Psycho-pass, Miss Kobayashi What Browser do you use? Chrome, Edge Favourite Manga Wizard's Soul ~Holy War of Love~	Foreign occupation and reorganization of the country by a foreign power (I'll assume Mexico for now). But more realistically, despite how entrenched it seems, the interest group is not very large, if youcan get some (not even that much) to start phoning congress every day with pro-gun control messages and such, they'll get the idea and likely act on it. The problem is this never lasts in a real concerted effort.
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+ Steve	Nov 15 2017, 11:06 PM Post #6
Greetings. I will be your waifu this season. Posts: 19,471 Group: Legend Member #5,710 Joined: February 7, 2011 Gender Male Country United Kingdom Favourite Anime Hunter x Hunter(2011) What Browser do you use? Mozilla Firefox Favourite Manga Berserk all day erry day	Tinny Nov 15 2017, 04:18 PM Foreign occupation and reorganization of the country by a foreign power (I'll assume Mexico for now). But more realistically, despite how entrenched it seems, the interest group is not very large, if youcan get some (not even that much) to start phoning congress every day with pro-gun control messages and such, they'll get the idea and likely act on it. The problem is this never lasts in a real concerted effort. I would say that more and more people online are definitely speaking out about it. I'd reckon the biggest issue there is a lack of hope, on the internet you feel pretty powerless generally...but there is plenty power there if enough people band together. Maybe with things like the #metoo movement people will feel more confident that there voice can be heard, even if they are just some faceless person on the internet. Of course there's plenty people online against things but typically official bodies have to respond to outrage rather than just saying "A lot of people don't mind so it's fine" I guess there needs to be some good campaigns about it towards the next election, none of this bulls* anti-Muslim rhetoric, Americans are doing far more damage to their own country daily and it gets swept under the rug as if Islamic terrorists are attacking all the time when it barely happens. Maybe if people realize "Oh s* it's mainly white men innit" they'll be less daft about it.
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