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What is the most hacked thing in DBS?; Fam?
Topic Started: Nov 14 2017, 01:53 AM (783 Views)
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Goku healing by fighting when he's literally never done that before?
Freeza going from weaker than SS1 to stronger than SSB just by training for 4 months?
Hit randomly being able to improve his time skip the longer he fights?
Future Trunks pulling out Super Saiyan Rage and Spirit Bomb Sword out of his a***?
Future Trunks instantly learning Mafuba from watching a video of Piccolo doing when no one else learned the technique that quickly?
Caulifla unlocking SS through a tingly back when unlocking SS was never that simple for anyone else?
Caulifla unlocking buff SS and SS2 after a few hours when no one else got those forms that quickly?
Kale getting a green SS form instead of the regular SS form for no reason?
Kale getting stronger from compliments when no one's ever gotten stronger like that before?
Jiren breaking out of frozen time just by glaring?

FAM?
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I'd add Ultra Instinct to the list. It just straight up overrides your fighting style and seems to fully restore your stamina.
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I think Freeza because it sets a precident for everything and everyone else.

BOG had no real scaling issues. Beerus had been out of action and ssjg was a new thing requiring the rare phenomena of 6 good saiyans and of course it was so effective here because Goku was already so strong.

Then ROF came out and solidified not only that base Goku was now stronger than ssjg was against Beerus but that Freeza can attain that level in 4 months of training. Then that multiplied by all ssj forms and then a god multiplier beyond ssj3 Vegetto and then that power going ssj with no methods told to us of how Freeza even trained.

Then suddenly new characters are introduced and there's no means of explaining their strength. God tier has no choice but to no longer be special because Freeza already came along and showed it wasn't. The god forms are still higher multipliers but base Cabba, Frost and Piccolo have to be far stronger than even BOG ssj3 Vegetto based on base Goku fighting final form Freeza in ROF.
Edited by superperfectnerd, Nov 14 2017, 02:38 AM.
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Nov 14 2017, 01:53 AM
Goku healing by fighting when he's literally never done that before?
Freeza going from weaker than SS1 to stronger than SSB just by training for 4 months?
Hit randomly being able to improve his time skip the longer he fights?
Future Trunks pulling out Super Saiyan Rage and Spirit Bomb Sword out of his a***?
Future Trunks instantly learning Mafuba from watching a video of Piccolo doing when no one else learned the technique that quickly?
Caulifla unlocking SS through a tingly back when unlocking SS was never that simple for anyone else?
Caulifla unlocking buff SS and SS2 after a few hours when no one else got those forms that quickly?
Kale getting a green SS form instead of the regular SS form for no reason?
Kale getting stronger from compliments when no one's ever gotten stronger like that before?
Jiren breaking out of frozen time just by glaring?

FAM?
Goku healing isn't much of a issue.

Vegeta caught up in 8 months i think so freoza whos never trained getting it in 4 is not much worse. Both pretty bad but nothing horrible imo.

Hits time skip is nothing to bad either as of you are equal to or stronger it can be countered regardless of how much its improved. And those gains dont stay.

Ssj rage is pretty bad and so is the spirit bomb in General in super. Mafuba i chalk up to blind luck.

Goku called ssj weird she called it tingly nothing wrong here. Goten and trunks got it vary easily. Easier then caulifa and kale.

We dont know how easily goku got ssj2. Vegeta got it vary easily. All he did was use babidis magic.

Broly got it as a infant.

Kale gained full control over berserker ssj because caulifas words i dont see that bad as kale is vary emotional to begin with.

Jiren was said to have extreme discipline to use his power the way he dose. Plus time cage is just time skip being uswd over and over. If goku can break one then jiren logically can break many of times more. And it all came down to hits stamina which faild.

So my vote is hits ability to constantly use time skip the way he did on jiren. Then the trunks stuff. The rest i have little to no problem with.
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Merged Zamasu in general, especially in the manga.
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Relatively speaking, I wanna speak upon Ribrianne and this "power of love"

It's not really explained why it makes her so powerful, or what makes it differ from ki. But suddenly she's a threat to Goku. Goku holding back, but Goku nonetheless.
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Every arc in this show is rife with inconsistencies and fantastical exaggerations to accommodate whatever it is the studio is aiming to portray. The Battle of Gods arc is the least damning perpetrator of this phenomenon, but you can still dissect that arc for outlandish tidbits like Vegeta's miraculous passion-induced spike of power that enabled him to retaliate against Beerus more capably than anyone else at the time; a clear appropriation of Gohan's trademark rage power ups which neither correlate to nor have had any relation to Vegeta throughout the original show's existence. It was included just to situate the prince on a pedestal and allude to a possible future deuteragonist career for him.

Now as bad as the first three arcs may have been, the latest two definitely take the cake in terms of being silly and illogical. Think about it - Black's unpredictable evolutionary growth pattern for no reason except that he got punched one too many times, Trunks posing any kind of surmountable challenge against either antagonist, the meshed bluish-gold transformation that was conceived out of thin air, Zamasu's fusion somehow inspiring a mechanics dichotomy despite another eccentric fusion existing in the form of a deceased person merging with a living person with no hiccups noted, SSJR Goku Black's Kamehameha not killing Trunks and mortally crippling Goku instantly, the unfused Saiyans somehow posing any kind of threat to merged Zamasu, merged Zamasu's power increases elevating him from being just above the Saiyans to holding his ground against SSJB Vegetto, Zamasu's fusion enabling a mimimalistic increase that seems to barely heighten the individual fusees' power when put into practice, Goku and Vegeta not being reduced to a reddish splatter the moment merged Zamasu's fist collided with their enervated bodies, humanity surviving for so long when these two ideologues should have been capable of wiping everyone out in less time it took for Super Buu, Mai and her squad dodging Zamasu's ki projectiles using their bikes, Mafuba's learning process being trivialised for the sake of convenience, Trunks somehow remotely coalescing the energy of everyone into a force powerful enough to defeat merged Zamasu, ect.

The above has to do with the Future Trunks arc, but Tournament of Power is even worst in many respects for taking so many creative licenses just so they can justify how it's panning out in the manner which it is. If they were trying to be logical then virtually everyone in this event would have been knocked out within the first thirty seconds. The U6 Saiyans would be devoid of any transformations sans Cabba who still loses eventually. Kale would have been eliminated early on with Caulifla following shortly thereafter. The tournament arena would remain completely unscathed throughout everything since the weaker U7 Katchin alloy is apparently resilient enough to compel SSJB Vegetto into avoiding it during his battle with Zamasu in the manga. So much more could be said regarding the flimsy structuring of these story boards.
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Jiren glare is not a new thing though. Goku when he 1st faced off with Freeza at Namek, he glared and blasted the rocks, creating the grave for Vegeta. Maybe in Goku vs Jiren part 3 later on, Goku can have a glare fest with Jiren.
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Kame Sennin going from being the weakest fighter in the show (By Buu Saga) to fighting in a multi-universe tournament where the strongest fighters of each universe compete.

Android 17 Being God tier from fighting poachers/training

SSB + Kaioken x10 Making Goku automatically 10x stronger than Vegeta.

Goku/Vegeta retaining their Super Saiyan God strength in their base form (or close to it)
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Most hacked thing in DBS?
Goten and Trunks not aging since the Buu Saga.

I dont understand the logic behind this decision. I think if Goten and Trunks were older, it would have opened up a more interesting story arc. They would be the around same age as Kefla and Caulifa. It would make for an interesting encounter because the two pairs have similar personalities and are very mischeivous. Imagine a SS3 Gotenk vs Kefla? A love interest between Goten and Caulifa maybe?
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