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| + Steve | Nov 13 2017, 08:52 PM Post #16 |
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In the ideal world yeah that's how society is supposed to work but the world isn't ideal and criminals will always be out there, so we always have to be prepared. People who give no f***s for the law can't be told to care, they'll only care once they get caught. The game doesn't suddenly change when it comes to sexual assault and I have no idea why people act like it does, as said some people are just more targets than others. Old people are more likely to be scammed because they're more gullible and ignorant of latest trends, rich people are more likely to get burgled when they go on holiday if they don't have adequate security. Smaller kids or more likely to be bullied because they're weaker and can't fight back so much, as are shy and reserved kids. Every breed of a***** has a target but somehow suggesting that also happens with rape and other sexual assault is outlandish. I wouldn't say that, I would tell people to be aware of when and where they choose to wear their sports tops. I've had that very advice given to me in fact because my dads side of the family is from Glasgow and if you go past a pub with mostly Rangers fans while wearing a Celtic t-shirt, you're likely to get knocked the f*** out. Sound advice is telling people not to walk past that pub with a Celtic t-shirt on or the drunk, animalistic bastards might attack them. Rather than telling the drunk animalistic bastards not to be drunk animalistic bastards any more. "Don't walk around by yourself drunk and half naked" to me is no different than: "Lock your doors after you leave the house and at night before bed" "Keep your car doors locked" "Don't talk to strangers" "Don't leave your drink at the bar unattended" "Don't let anyone official in your house without seeing some ID" "Don't wander around bad neighbourhoods alone or at night" "Don't have unprotected sex with people you don't know are healthy" You don't deserve to have your property stolen, to be robbed, to be abducted, to be attacked in your own home or to have your drink spiked with date rape drugs or to get an STD. But all of that can still happen and every single person at risk needs to be aware of those. It's not about living in fear it's about being sensible. Prevention is better than the cure only with crime, the damage will already be done so a cure doesn't really exist. Take a big unflattering coat to the club with you, make sure someone sensible stays off the drink, don't go home by yourself or get a friend to pick you up, avoid bad areas. Whatever else might be an appropriate addition. I mean really, most people would want to be doing these things anyway otherwise you're a target for many crimes. Edited by Steve, Nov 13 2017, 08:55 PM.
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| Tinny | Nov 13 2017, 09:05 PM Post #17 |
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Once again, not all rapists are on a motorcycle kidnapping people off the street, many times it is family, friends, co-workers, and lovers who don't understand how consent works exactly, and there we can teach them. |
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| + Steve | Nov 13 2017, 10:12 PM Post #18 |
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Yeah but that's mostly what people are talking about when they mention clothing, I certainly don't often see people blaming a wife for wearing lovely ladyty clothes if her husband rapes her. Sure it happens sometimes but clearly it's mostly...idk how to describe it, non-domestic rape? And I don't really see any truth to that as a rule, if someone is willing to forcefully take sex telling them they're doing a bad thing doesn't make any sense. They know it's a bad thing, rape doesn't happen by accident unless someone chooses not to speak up and say no. You can teach people consent all you want but there will always be people who just don't care and feel like they're owed sex from whatever physical or emotional investment they have with a person. It's not a bad thing to teach but it's in no way going to solve the problem, the worst cases will be left untouched. It also can't really work since you can't make rules for what consent is, people themselves decide. I don't often ask my girlfriend for sex, I'll make an advance and sex will happen or occasionally it won't. According to many people that's me raping her because I never got an enthusiastic yes and some written documentation to prove I get one sex that night. |
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| Tinny | Nov 13 2017, 11:23 PM Post #19 |
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You can teach people to recognize consent when it's given and when it's not given, you can teach them what to expect from a relationship and how they should act towards their lovers, to imply that people cannot be taught morality and recognition (which is already the parents, society, and school's job on many different levels) is simply ludicrous, as is saying that because it won't solve all rape ever we shouldn't try it all.
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| + Ssj3vegito96 | Nov 13 2017, 11:48 PM Post #20 |
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We don't live in a rape culture lol. Women are treated fine if not better than men sometimes |
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| Daemon Keido | Nov 14 2017, 02:14 AM Post #21 |
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But they are not treated equally as well as men all the time. There is a disparity, whether or mot you call rape culture the disease or just another symptom of another larger issue. |
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| + Emmeth | Nov 14 2017, 09:06 AM Post #22 |
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I don't think the majority of the women (and men) coming forward in the Me Too movement is doing it for the attention, I genuinely think most of them have had terrible experiences and they need to tell someone to relieve guilt. But I also believe in some cases it's just not true, that some people do it to get attention or to smear the campaign. It's just very difficult to know which is which on the internet. |
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| Bad User | Nov 14 2017, 09:50 AM Post #23 |
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World exists outside US, too. There are so many countries out there, so many mentalities, so many social categories, so many fields of activities, so many domains, so many cultures etc., we simply can't afford making such bold and general statements, like 'Women are treated better than men', or 'Men are treated better than women', or 'Men and women are treated equally'. And the same with rape. It's so complex, we can't simply embrace one universal approach and be done with it. We can't handle a drunk man who just left the local village bar and thought of stopping by his old granny neighbour to ease off the itch in his pants, the same way we handle a man who grew up in a family where women were belittled and thinks it's perfectly normal to rape his girlfriend, wife, daughter, niece, cousin or other local girls and he's entitled to receive sex whenever he feels like it, and then again we can't treat the same way someone with mental problems that loves raping people on a daily basis because their sick mind is addicted to it. There are many categories of men and women who rape. And victims vary the same. Yes, we have young drunk girls walking out of the club with one boob hanging out and getting in cars with strangers. But then again, we have all kinds of women with all kinds of clothing and all kinds of ages suffering from rape. It can be a woman coming home from work at night. It can be a defenseless granny living by herself in a barren village. It can be a family member: parent, sibling, son or daughter etc. It can be a young girl coming home from school. Or a young boy. It can be a man, too. We can't pretend they can't or aren't raped, too. Nobody deserves this, but the methods of prevention and treatment are very different. Edited by Bad User, Nov 14 2017, 11:32 AM.
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| EMIYA | Nov 15 2017, 05:52 AM Post #24 |
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You can argue whether or not Rape Culture exists but I agree with Sam. The opening tweet lacks any clarity or context which makes it very annoying. It basically comes off in a way that says anything remotely negative against women automatically leads to the issue of rape. If you want to talk about how that objectification of women is ruining their image as people, go right a head. If you want to talk about the issue of sexual misconduct and assault and the effect it has on people and what you can do to prevent it, go right a head. But the very first reply on the post basically sums it all up. You can't just go out and say this and not expect to back your words up someway. Some replies seem to indicate that the acts of "telling jokes" leads to to the issue of rape culture. How? Statistics have shown us that the issue of rape and violent sexual assaults are on the low for the past decade. Again, if you want to talk about the issue of sexual misconduct across the country, how both men and women are effected by it and the things you can do to prevent such things, all the more power to you. But if your just going to spout something randomly in a tweet without context then honestly, it's just going to come off as ignorant crap. |
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| GreatSaiyaman123 | Nov 16 2017, 01:39 AM Post #25 |
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I'm pretty sure the person who made this tweet is only looking for a polemic. She makes an ambiguous post and instead of explaining she only returns and coments "Nobody got it lmao" with a crappy gif. Personally, i don't think we are on a rape culture. Of course, some parts of the media does sexualize the hell out of woman, but the people who go along with it and contribuite with the trivialization of women and sex are the first ones to call "Rape culture, man suckz" when a woman is raped. Edited by GreatSaiyaman123, Nov 16 2017, 01:40 AM.
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