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| Merged Zamasu (manga) vs SSJG Vegetto | |
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| EMIYA | Nov 11 2017, 01:47 AM Post #1 |
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We know Anime Merged Zamasu was on par with Vegetto Blue and Manga Zamasu was notably weaker. So in this case how would do you infer Manga Zamasu would handle Super Saiyan God Vegetto? Round 01: Base Merged Zamasu Round 02: Light of Justice Round 03: Giant Form For Round 02 and 03, just add whatever bonus you'd give to these forms to Manga Zamasu. Can Vegetto handle Manga Zamasu with just Super Saiyan God or will he need Blue at some point? |
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| Slifer | Nov 11 2017, 03:52 AM Post #2 |
 
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R1: I have a hard time believing CSSJB Goku could hang with SSJG Vegetto, so Vegetto should bitchsmack Merged Zamasu here. R2: I think initial manga Merged Zamasu is stronger than initial anime Merged Zamasu. He's got better feats against the SSJB duo. But then the anime gave a Potara-tier boost with that lightning nonsense. Vegetto probably gets annihilated. R3: Probably the same as round 2. |
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| Thiln | Nov 11 2017, 04:03 AM Post #3 |
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Well Merged Zamasu in the manga was about even with Goku in his completed SSJB form. We could make any number of guesses as to how much stronger such a status is, but I doubt it's going to compensate for a transformation that outstrips the fused being, Vegetto, himself who is already thousands of times stronger than his fusion components. Round 1: Would go to Vegetto without incident. Nothing Zamasu does can actually thwart his inevitable defeat unless he decided to think outside the box with his magical abilities. Round 2: Now this Zamasu is the one who combated Vegetto with notable success. When applied to the manga iteration of the character, I think you're looking at a boost that reaches into the thousands from the "light of justice". Somehow Merged Zamasu prior to this development wasn't that superior to the unfused Saiyans. Once Goku and the others began to fight with everything they had they managed to overpower Zamasu's Seinaru Gekirin through concerted attacks. Vegetto happens to be using an inferior form here and his stamina is limited, unlike Zamasu's. Zamasu takes this round. Round 3: Zamasu has even less sanity and composure in this state. Still, I don't think his cognitive and mobility decreases are substantial enough to prevent him from winning against SSJG Vegetto. It should go to him once again. Edited by Thiln, Nov 11 2017, 04:04 AM.
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| + Ssj3vegito96 | Nov 11 2017, 04:10 AM Post #4 |
 
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Vegito going blue against zamasu was just overkill. Regular blue is really not that much stronger than God so I'm sure God would've been enough. So base merged zamasu has no chance. Light of justice I'm not sure what to say about that |
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| + Pyrus | Nov 11 2017, 04:41 AM Post #5 |
 
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I think Merged Zamasu is between SSJ3 and SSJG Vegetto. Giving him a Potara-sized boost would put him above SSJG Vegetto, so he'd win round 2 and 3. He'd get stomped in the first round. |
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| + Solid Snake | Nov 11 2017, 04:56 AM Post #6 |
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Merged Zamasu's original state I have equal in the manga and anime. The difference being that anime Merged Zamasu has means of actually increasing his power. I also, have both Vegito in the manga and anime as equals. So now that that's out of the way let's get into my opinion. Manga Merged Zamasu dominated both SSJG and Blue Goku and Vegeta, even to the point he felt they weren't even moving from his perspective. Following up, him raising his power resulted in a huge explosion that, meaning he was holding back at that point. After being hit by base Vegito and told his fusion will undo in a hour, he felt he could beat a non-full powered base Vegito within the hour at best. Vegito tells him he doesn't plan on dragging out the fight proceeds to go Blue right off the back and owns him badly as he did with Buuhan before. Vegito was stated to have surpassed Vegito soon afterwards. SSJB Vegito > Beerus >> ~GoD Level~ Merged Zamasu Giving him the boost from the anime will put him on a sinlar level like the anime version of the fight. So he'd actually need Blue to win. Super Saiyan Blue Vegito: 1,250 -SSJG: 625 Merged Zamasu: 640-800 -LoJ: 736-920 --Power Weighted: 760-950 GoD Level: 833 (weakest) - 1,200 (strongest) Beerus: 1,000 Whis: 1,500 |
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| + Saiyan Paladin | Nov 11 2017, 05:01 AM Post #7 |
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Base Kefla supposedly outstripping SSG Goku is lurking in the back of my mind. So is Merged Zamas being a little hesitant and then telling Base Vegetto "I guess an hour will be long enough to beat you." Merged Zamas should definitely know Vegetto can transform, right? Why wouldn't he? Well, he goes on to crap himself when Vegetto turns Blue and that's kind of odd. Was he not expecting Blue at all, or was he not expecting Vegetto's Blue to be that strong? If it's the former then manga Base Vegetto is pretty damn strong and going to be similar in power to CSSB Goku. I don't think Blue is a big boost over God (I go with 2x) so SSG Vegetto is going to be pretty beasty. I actually think he clears the list. |
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| + Ssj3vegito96 | Nov 11 2017, 05:18 AM Post #8 |
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Wow, I never caught that line. "I guess one hour will be enough for me to defeat you". Vegito going blue was just fan service and overkill x10. He could've beaten him easily ssj then, right? So doesn't that confirm vegito>ssjg in the manga and God isn't as strong as it is in the anime? |
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| EMIYA | Nov 11 2017, 05:38 AM Post #9 |
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I'll add a little extra bits to the equation. If Vegetto requires Blue on any of the rounds, how much of a difference would there be between them? Would Light of Justice and Giant Form give Manga Zamasu any fighting chance against Vegetto Blue or would suffer just a longer, more humiliating defeat? Also, just for the sake of things, there is no time limit for Vegetto Blue if it comes to that. The same thing with God though I think very few of you were actually using that aspect. |
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| + Pyrus | Nov 11 2017, 06:34 AM Post #10 |
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I think Zamasu would expect Vegetto be able to transform, but I don't know why he didn't think he could use Blue. |
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| + Ssj3vegito96 | Nov 11 2017, 07:32 AM Post #11 |
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I'm not sure what to make of it. Is he surprised he can turn blue or that he can transform at all? Why be surprised at blue if he expects him to transform at all? He also seemed surprised when vegito says he intends to end it quickly. This was before he took the senzu bean too @EMIYA I don't think zamasu has any chance. To me, God would've been enough to stop him so going blue would've been enough to handle any version of zamasu Edited by Ssj3vegito96, Nov 11 2017, 07:46 AM.
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| + Solid Snake | Nov 11 2017, 10:53 AM Post #12 |
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Oh I didn't realize that we aren't being conservative. In that case, the simple fact Merged Zamasu felt something was different with his "form" compared to God Goku and Vegeta, before Vegito took the Senzu, and was keying in that an hour will do in defeating a weakened base Vegito, already tells us he won't stand a chance against Vegito overall. SSJB Vegito > Merged Zamasu (Power Weighted) > SSJG Vegito >> Merged Zamasu (LoJ) >> SSJ3 Vegito >>> SSJ2 Vegito >> SSJ Vegito >>> Base Vegito (full powered) > CSSJB Goku = BKKx10 Goku >= Merged Zamasu >= Base Vegito (weakened) > SSJB&G Vegeta > SSJB Goku & Vegeta > SSJG Goku & Vegeta My last point still stands though if we give him the same power ups from the anime. He only lasted due to his regeneration in both the anime and manga. |
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| + Ssj3vegito96 | Nov 11 2017, 04:51 PM Post #13 |
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Based on that how strong would God goku have been in the buu saga? Can't be stronger than vegito but he also has to be at least high tier since goku was so impressed with God right? |
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