Ultra Instinct Goku vs SSJ4 Goku

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Ultra Instinct Goku vs SSJ4 Goku
Tweet Topic Started: Oct 31 2017, 07:32 PM (5,938 Views)
Joseph Gomes	Oct 31 2017, 11:20 PM Post #16
Posts: 108 Group: Member Member #14,064 Joined: September 19, 2017 Gender Male Country Canada Favourite Anime Steins Gate	Slifer Oct 31 2017, 11:15 PM I don't know what Whis has to do with this. He and the rest of the Angels are uncharted territory as of now. Typo, I actually meant Daishinkan, since it would be far above Whis Edited by Joseph Gomes, Oct 31 2017, 11:20 PM.



Slifer	Oct 31 2017, 11:21 PM Post #17
Posts: 3,488 Group: Member Member #10,141 Joined: September 7, 2013	Joseph Gomes Oct 31 2017, 11:20 PM Slifer Oct 31 2017, 11:15 PM I don't know what Whis has to do with this. He and the rest of the Angels are uncharted territory as of now. Sorry I meant Daishinkan, since it would be far above Whis There's no reason why Vegetto Blue needs to be close to Whis, much less his father.



Joseph Gomes	Oct 31 2017, 11:31 PM Post #18
Posts: 108 Group: Member Member #14,064 Joined: September 19, 2017 Gender Male Country Canada Favourite Anime Steins Gate	Slifer Oct 31 2017, 11:21 PM There's no reason why Vegetto Blue needs to be close to Whis, much less his father. He would be with your given multiplier for fusion. Neither Beerus nor Whis is 400x SSB Goku, are they?



Slifer	Oct 31 2017, 11:35 PM Post #19
Posts: 3,488 Group: Member Member #10,141 Joined: September 7, 2013	Joseph Gomes Oct 31 2017, 11:31 PM Slifer Oct 31 2017, 11:21 PM There's no reason why Vegetto Blue needs to be close to Whis, much less his father. He would be with your given multiplier for fusion. Neither Beerus nor Whis is 400x SSB Goku, are they? Logically they shouldn't be but Super doesn't do logic very well. Vegetto Blue was maybe stronger than Beerus in the manga. If that translates to the anime, which I believe it does, then Beerus is still worlds above SSJB Goku.



Joseph Gomes	Oct 31 2017, 11:50 PM Post #20
Posts: 108 Group: Member Member #14,064 Joined: September 19, 2017 Gender Male Country Canada Favourite Anime Steins Gate	Slifer Oct 31 2017, 11:35 PM Logically they shouldn't be but Super doesn't do logic very well. Vegetto Blue was maybe stronger than Beerus in the manga. If that translates to the anime, which I believe it does, then Beerus is still worlds above SSJB Goku. What happened to Goku 6, Beerus 10 and Whis 15, or Rage Vegeta being 10% of Beerus? How does that fit with your multiplier? Edited by Joseph Gomes, Nov 1 2017, 12:16 AM.



StrenuousSpider	Nov 1 2017, 12:05 AM Post #21
Posts: 2,085 Group: Member Member #13,372 Joined: July 11, 2016 Gender Male Country United States	Joseph Gomes Oct 31 2017, 11:50 PM Slifer Oct 31 2017, 11:35 PM He would be with your given multiplier for fusion. Neither Beerus nor Whis is 400x SSB Goku, are they? Logically they shouldn't be but Super doesn't do logic very well. Vegetto Blue was maybe stronger than Beerus in the manga. If that translates to the anime, which I believe it does, then Beerus is still worlds above SSJB Goku. What happened to Goku 6, Beerus 10 and Whis 15, or Rage Vegeta being 10% of Beerus? How does that fit with your multiplier?[/quote]The 6 10 15 scale was for the movies only not the anime or manga.



Blue Evolution Vegeta	Nov 1 2017, 12:10 AM Post #22
Posts: 378 Group: Member Member #9,064 Joined: February 18, 2013 Gender Male Country Canada Favourite Anime DB, DBZ, DBGT, DBS, Toriko, Digimon, Pokemon and Stitch! Favourite Manga Dragon Ball Z, Dragon Ball Super and Toriko	Beerus lies about a lot of things, i see no reason to believe Beerus was using anything remotely close to even 1% of his power against Enraged SSJ2 Vegeta, the 6, 10 and 15 thing was only for the Movies, Movie Beerus was using 70% against God Goku, which fits with the God scale, while KK x10 SSJ Blue Goku in the U6 Tournament would be over 10x God Goku if we lowball SSJ Blue Goku to being not even 2x God Goku (Which i don't agree with), so if we use that scale from the Movies, KK x10 Blue would be 60+ while Beerus would be 10 and Whis is 15, so that Blue Goku would be over 4x Whis, so the 6, 10 and 15 scale shouldn't be used when discussing the Super anime



yordorpoo	Nov 1 2017, 12:27 AM Post #23
Posts: 26 Group: Duplicate Member #14,124 Joined: October 26, 2017	Didn't kaioshin say goku only used one billion of his ssj4 true power?



jason vorhees	Nov 1 2017, 12:43 AM Post #24
Posts: 642 Group: Member Member #14,111 Joined: October 19, 2017 Gender Male Favourite Anime dragonball ,jjba,yugioh	yordorpoo Nov 1 2017, 12:27 AM Didn't kaioshin say goku only used one billion of his ssj4 true power? when did he?



Slifer	Nov 1 2017, 12:50 AM Post #25
Posts: 3,488 Group: Member Member #10,141 Joined: September 7, 2013	yordorpoo Nov 1 2017, 12:27 AM Didn't kaioshin say goku only used one billion of his ssj4 true power? That sounds like one of the awful dub lines. Though I don't recall it.



+ Pyrus	Nov 1 2017, 01:16 AM Post #26
Posts: 39,342 Group: Legend Member #5,088 Joined: August 1, 2010 Gender Not Specified Country Chile	Elder Kai said Goku was using a tiny amount or something like that though.
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+ Solid Snake	Nov 1 2017, 02:36 AM Post #27
滅Are you frightened? Posts: 8,961 Group: Elite Member Member #6,739 Joined: September 11, 2011 Gender Not Specified Favourite Anime Dragon ball, z, gt, Naruto & Shippuden, Bleach, Rosario + Vampire What Browser do you use? Kept you waiting huh? Favourite Manga Dragon Ball, Naruto, and Bleach	Ultra Instinct Goku >= Jiren >= Belmod ~ SSJB Vegito (Zamasu saga) ~ GoD Level > Merged Zamasu (Power Weighted) > Merged Zamasu (Light of Justice) > Merged Zamasu (Full Power) > Merged Zamasu (Initial) >= Blue Kaioken x10 Goku (Zamasu saga) >>> SSJB Goku (Zamasu saga) > SSJG Goku (Zamasu saga) >>> SSJ3 Goku >> SSJ2 Goku > SSJ Goku >>> Base Goku >= SSJG Goku (BoG saga) > SSJ4 Gogeta >>> Omega Shenron >>> SSJ4 Goku (Surpassed Limits)
	Shinnozou tomete kureru! ~ Evil Ryu SSJG and SSJ4 Goku Sig SUPER THANKS CELL Dragon Ball: Ultimate Road Story http://dbzf.co.uk/topic/8434874/1/#new Naruto and Goku's Adventure Story http://dbzf.co.uk/topic/8435708/1/#new


Blue Evolution Vegeta	Nov 1 2017, 03:29 AM Post #28
Posts: 378 Group: Member Member #9,064 Joined: February 18, 2013 Gender Male Country Canada Favourite Anime DB, DBZ, DBGT, DBS, Toriko, Digimon, Pokemon and Stitch! Favourite Manga Dragon Ball Z, Dragon Ball Super and Toriko	Solid Snake Nov 1 2017, 02:36 AM Ultra Instinct Goku >= Jiren >= Belmod ~ SSJB Vegito (Zamasu saga) ~ GoD Level > Merged Zamasu (Power Weighted) > Merged Zamasu (Light of Justice) > Merged Zamasu (Full Power) > Merged Zamasu (Initial) >= Blue Kaioken x10 Goku (Zamasu saga) >>> SSJB Goku (Zamasu saga) > SSJG Goku (Zamasu saga) >>> SSJ3 Goku >> SSJ2 Goku > SSJ Goku >>> Base Goku >= SSJG Goku (BoG saga) > SSJ4 Gogeta >>> Omega Shenron >>> SSJ4 Goku (Surpassed Limits) Agreed Snake



+ Ssj3vegito96	Nov 1 2017, 03:46 AM Post #29
Posts: 10,327 Group: Elite Member Member #10,438 Joined: November 2, 2013 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Dragon ball/Z/GT/S, Fullmetal Alchemist:Brotherhood, One Punch Man Favourite Manga DB/Z/S	Nvm Anyway ultra instinct goku wins Edited by Ssj3vegito96, Nov 1 2017, 03:47 AM.
	IT'S CHEESE Spoiler: click to toggle Top 7 favorite dbz heroes: 1. Sometimes it goku sometimes it's vegeta 2. ^ 3. Teen gohan 4. Future trunks 5. Piccolo 6. Adult gohan 7. Bardock


jason vorhees	Nov 1 2017, 03:51 AM Post #30
Posts: 642 Group: Member Member #14,111 Joined: October 19, 2017 Gender Male Favourite Anime dragonball ,jjba,yugioh	yeah ultra uinstic goku stomps



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