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Vegeta vs black in the manga
Topic Started: Oct 31 2017, 01:25 AM (8,184 Views)
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Considering the fact there is no justified two-base-theory for the anime, SSG just replaces Base God in the anime, i suppose?
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I stopped trying to figure out the anime, lol.
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Nov 3 2017, 03:38 AM
It doesn't prove what I'm suggesting. I was merely pointing out that mortals can learn to use God Ki without some ritualistic power up or transformation, so it isn't much of a stretch to assume Goku and Vegeta can amplify their other forms with God Ki if they so desire.

Er, Toppo looks exactly the same. I'm pretty sure he didn't transform.
He looks the same yeah but entered a god mode too no? Before that he was using proper ki control already. So how can we tell that toppo was stronger with the proper ki control? Idk. I need to look at that scene again
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He's using God Ki, yes.
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The idea of God ki amplification existing for everything reeks too much of convenience endemic to all Super related theories. Almost all of them can be summed up as "Well, this works like this for arbitrary reasons until for equally arbitrary reasons the exact opposite is true!".
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It's certainly contrived, I'll give you that, but it seems to work, as things stand right now at least. It's easier to swallow than Vegeta being able to call on a rage boost without getting angry.
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How does Zamazu able to get a power boost proportional to Ssj Blue?
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When did that happen? Zamasu was weak in the manga unlike in the anime and I don't remember him getting any godly boosts in power
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Regarding Vegeta's Super Saiyan 2 form, I am interested in hearing how everyone here deals with it.
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1. One-time thingy?
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Nov 4 2017, 06:53 PM
Regarding Vegeta's Super Saiyan 2 form, I am interested in hearing how everyone here deals with it.
I just contain it to his SSJ2 form, kinda similar to how I deal with Trunks. They're exceptionally strong in that form, but in base and regular SSJ, they're 'normal'.
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So you think Vegeta's Super Saiyan 2 form is significantly stronger than Trunks's Super Saiyan 2?
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Nov 4 2017, 07:20 PM
So you think Vegeta's Super Saiyan 2 form is significantly stronger than Trunks's Super Saiyan 2?
Trunks Super Saiyan 2 outperformed Blue Goku in the Anime against Future Zamasu. Why can't Vegeta use a more powerful SSJ 2 Version? He can tap into Anger if he wants. Thats what he was doing in the Rosat to increase his Power. The whole Rosat exploded. SSR Black used Anger to create the Scythe. Why is it not possible?
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Well, Trunks was simply stronger in general. I don't think he had some powered up Super Saiyan 2 in the anime. It's certainly not implied at least. As I've established, anger isn't something a person can control. Anger merely pushed Vegeta to become stronger.

Vegeta also seemed surprised that Trunks could amplify the power of Super Saiyan 2 in the manga, so I'd argue it's rather unlikely that he could.
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Unless Vegeta learned it from Trunks in their few hours of gravity chamber sparring, his shock at the ability to amplify Super Saiyan 2's power would give reason to believe the thought hadn't even crossed his mind prior to seeing it.
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