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Gods of destruction
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superperfectnerd	Oct 27 2017, 12:55 AM Post #1
Posts: 3,718 Group: Member Member #11,519 Joined: July 15, 2014	What is their purpose? Why do they need to exist when the angels or even the Kais are fully capable of destroying planets and stars themselves. Also, Goku and Vegeta have been offered training to potentially become future gods of destruction as have Toppo and Jiren, so we know gods of destruction are mortals who have been selected and trained for their position. Baring that in mind, why is everyone so shocked that 'a mere mortal' can be as strong as Jiren or can use ultra instinct when really every god of destruction is just a mortal themselves? Goku, Vegeta, Toppo and Jiren have been trained by an angel just like any other god of destruction, so why is their power such a shocker?



Slifer	Oct 27 2017, 01:07 AM Post #2
Posts: 3,488 Group: Member Member #10,141 Joined: September 7, 2013	superperfectnerd Oct 27 2017, 12:55 AM Goku, Vegeta, Toppo and Jiren have been trained by an angel just like any other god of destruction, so why is their power such a shocker? Beerus and Champa have had their jobs for millions of years, and who knows how old they were before they became Hakaishin. In Goku's and Vegeta's case, the fact they attained such incredible power with SSJB and now Ultra Instinct (you know it's a matter of time for Vegeta) within a few decades of birth has every right to be terrifying. Edited by Slifer, Oct 27 2017, 01:09 AM.



StrenuousSpider	Oct 27 2017, 01:09 AM Post #3
Posts: 2,090 Group: Member Member #13,372 Joined: July 11, 2016 Gender Male Country United States	The hakai is the basics of being a GoD. Yah kais can destroy stuff but only GoD can erase things. So i think to become a GoD you have to Hit the three check marks. 1. Power. You have to be strong enough to challenge the current GoD and if lack there of be in god teir level like goku, vegeta, toppo, jiren and so on. 2. Mastery of godly ki. Which i just assume anyone god teir and up has. 3. Hakai/destruction energy. I would assume they would need the potential to learn basically the techniques that make the GoD so special. Technically a kai can become a GoD but i would assume its forbidden among the deities rules. Kais are just supposed to create and guide.



superperfectnerd	Oct 27 2017, 01:25 AM Post #4
Posts: 3,718 Group: Member Member #11,519 Joined: July 15, 2014	Slifer Oct 27 2017, 01:07 AM superperfectnerd Oct 27 2017, 12:55 AM Goku, Vegeta, Toppo and Jiren have been trained by an angel just like any other god of destruction, so why is their power such a shocker? Beerus and Champa have had their jobs for millions of years, and who knows how old they were before they became Hakaishin. In Goku's and Vegeta's case, the fact they attained such incredible power with SSJB and now Ultra Instinct (you know it's a matter of time for Vegeta) within a few decades of birth has every right to be terrifying. Absolutely, but the gods aren't saying "blmey they got strong quick", they're saying "how can mortals have such power?" Have they forgotten they were mortals? They act like higher beings and beyond mortal comprehension...but they are mortals. And how do they know how old these mortals are anyway? Goku, Vegeta, Jiren and Toppo could be millions of years old for all they know. Boo counts as a mortal and he's older than all gods. It's the 'us and them' I don't get with the gods, they are all different mortal species with a job being a god, they aren't some godly race like the Kais. Edited by superperfectnerd, Oct 27 2017, 01:29 AM.



StrenuousSpider	Oct 27 2017, 01:51 AM Post #5
Posts: 2,090 Group: Member Member #13,372 Joined: July 11, 2016 Gender Male Country United States	superperfectnerd Oct 27 2017, 01:25 AM Slifer Oct 27 2017, 01:07 AM superperfectnerd Oct 27 2017, 12:55 AM Goku, Vegeta, Toppo and Jiren have been trained by an angel just like any other god of destruction, so why is their power such a shocker? Beerus and Champa have had their jobs for millions of years, and who knows how old they were before they became Hakaishin. In Goku's and Vegeta's case, the fact they attained such incredible power with SSJB and now Ultra Instinct (you know it's a matter of time for Vegeta) within a few decades of birth has every right to be terrifying. Absolutely, but the gods aren't saying "blmey they got strong quick", they're saying "how can mortals have such power?" Have they forgotten they were mortals? They act like higher beings and beyond mortal comprehension...but they are mortals. And how do they know how old these mortals are anyway? Goku, Vegeta, Jiren and Toppo could be millions of years old for all they know. Boo counts as a mortal and he's older than all gods. It's the 'us and them' I don't get with the gods, they are all different mortal species with a job being a god, they aren't some godly race like the Kais. I dont have a answer for that one lol. Maybe they got some type of immortality and that makes a god idk lol.



jason vorhees	Oct 27 2017, 03:24 AM Post #6
Posts: 642 Group: Member Member #14,111 Joined: October 19, 2017 Gender Male Favourite Anime dragonball ,jjba,yugioh	maybe because they are a balance to the universe



Saiyan36	Oct 27 2017, 05:45 AM Post #7
Posts: 656 Group: Member Member #13,607 Joined: November 6, 2016	If Goku keeps evolving the UI in a logic way into next arc or if they are erased: what will be their use as an opponent? Sadly we have missed the opportunity to see them put up a good fight like in the manga. Edited by Saiyan36, Oct 27 2017, 05:51 AM.



jason vorhees	Oct 27 2017, 06:09 AM Post #8
Posts: 642 Group: Member Member #14,111 Joined: October 19, 2017 Gender Male Favourite Anime dragonball ,jjba,yugioh	Saiyan36 Oct 27 2017, 05:45 AM If Goku keeps evolving the UI in a logic way into next arc or if they are erased: what will be their use as an opponent? Sadly we have missed the opportunity to see them put up a good fight like in the manga. so true but thats okay since we have still seen beerus vs champa+gods battle in tournament



Namek_Nimrod	Oct 27 2017, 10:58 AM Post #9
Posts: 96 Group: Member Member #13,987 Joined: July 30, 2017	Yeah I've always felt it weird that none of the angels or GoD haven't mentioned how ridiculously powerful Goku and Vegeta are considering their age...at least the likes of Hit are 1000's of years old...what happens if Goku and Vegeta live to that age? Let alone millions... considering how quick they improve their power levels surely the grand priest would see them as some sort of threat. Edited by Namek_Nimrod, Oct 27 2017, 07:43 PM.



superperfectnerd	Oct 27 2017, 11:23 AM Post #10
Posts: 3,718 Group: Member Member #11,519 Joined: July 15, 2014	Look at Freeza at 4 months of training, Beerus doesn't seem bothered, he doesn't act like that's abnormal.



Saiyan36	Oct 27 2017, 11:29 AM Post #11
Posts: 656 Group: Member Member #13,607 Joined: November 6, 2016	In a sense, God-power as a reference point sometimes gets absurd storywise. I'd rather have them to finish this chapter and move on. In the manga both Vegeta and Goku possess God-ki and also the techniques of a God. Vegeta was no match for Beerus in his CSSJB-state. This while CSSJB-Goku was a real good match for Zamasu. In a sense they have become Gods, because they mastered the God-ki and are able to perform the Hakai, but still aren't there yet. That's somehow paradoxal. In the anime they don't have God-Ki and no real Godly advanced techniques (such as Hakai or UI), only absolute Ki-control, insanely high powerlevels compared to BOG and Kaioken. And still no match for the Gods as well.



StrenuousSpider	Oct 27 2017, 02:00 PM Post #12
Posts: 2,090 Group: Member Member #13,372 Joined: July 11, 2016 Gender Male Country United States	Vegeta mentioned the feeling of god ki while inside whis staff.



Saiyan36	Oct 27 2017, 04:10 PM Post #13
Posts: 656 Group: Member Member #13,607 Joined: November 6, 2016	Vegeta and Goku had reached a level of strength they could sense it. That didn't mean they've got Godly Ki like Deities have.



Namek_Nimrod	Oct 27 2017, 07:41 PM Post #14
Posts: 96 Group: Member Member #13,987 Joined: July 30, 2017	superperfectnerd Oct 27 2017, 11:23 AM Look at Freeza at 4 months of training, Beerus doesn't seem bothered, he doesn't act like that's abnormal. If Frieza gets wished back alive then decides he needs to train more...decides to get a training partner and wishes back Cell....they then sneak off to train in RoSaT for 3yrs....what happens then? Both should easily surpass all characters apart from Zeno and probably the grand priest. They give everyone such easy huge power boosts that a few 'what if' scenarios puts lots on Beyond God level. Same with Kale and Caulifa....what happens if Goku and Vegeta train them for 3yrs in RoSaT? Edited by Namek_Nimrod, Oct 27 2017, 07:42 PM.



jason vorhees	Oct 28 2017, 03:18 AM Post #15
Posts: 642 Group: Member Member #14,111 Joined: October 19, 2017 Gender Male Favourite Anime dragonball ,jjba,yugioh	gods of destruction would still beat Goku with Galia even if Goku surpass them



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