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ssj4 goku beby arc vs super vegito buu arc
Topic Started: Oct 26 2017, 04:04 PM (725 Views)
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Goku literally one shots.
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Ssj3vegito96
Oct 28 2017, 12:05 AM
One small problem with your numbers don't seem to consider that GT gohan is stronger than he was in the buu saga and that base goku was strong enough to take on ssj gohan and ssj goten. So if ultimate gohan in the buu saga was a .6 then GT gohan would be idk like a .8 at least and then if we assume his ssj multiplier is ~2x(iirc it's like 2.5x but I'm low balling) like goku's is now, then ssj gohan is 1.6 and so base goku should be like 2.2. So ssj goku is 4.4, ssj2 is 8.8, ssj3, if we use a 4x ssj3 multiplier, is 35.2. Idk what you want to use a ssj3 multiplier. Anything ~3x and up makes him stronger than ssj vegito though

Gohan doesn't necessarily need to be much stronger than he was in Z. Maintenance training could've replaced progressive training considering his new lifestyle.

I use a 2x multiplier for Super Saiyan 3. It tends to work out better than 3x for me.
Heavenly King Toriko
Oct 28 2017, 04:03 PM
Beginning of GT Base Goku could possibly be on Super Vegito's level, but at most GT Goku should only need SSJ to utterly destroy DBZ Vegito, SSJ4 Goku isn't needed, so GT Goku one shots effortlessly, in almost any form

:o_O: How in the world is Base Goku on SSJ Vegetto's level?
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Oct 28 2017, 04:45 PM
I also still use the 50x multiplier for GT because of rildos statement about him getting dozens of times stronger so i dont see the 2x multiplier working when the material kinda said other wise.

Dub line. Rild said Goku wasn't using even half of his power in the original.
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Rildo's dub line to Goku was "your power has increased 100-fold" if I recall correctly. Not sure what the sub was.
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Oct 28 2017, 06:35 PM
Ssj3vegito96
Oct 28 2017, 12:05 AM
One small problem with your numbers don't seem to consider that GT gohan is stronger than he was in the buu saga and that base goku was strong enough to take on ssj gohan and ssj goten. So if ultimate gohan in the buu saga was a .6 then GT gohan would be idk like a .8 at least and then if we assume his ssj multiplier is ~2x(iirc it's like 2.5x but I'm low balling) like goku's is now, then ssj gohan is 1.6 and so base goku should be like 2.2. So ssj goku is 4.4, ssj2 is 8.8, ssj3, if we use a 4x ssj3 multiplier, is 35.2. Idk what you want to use a ssj3 multiplier. Anything ~3x and up makes him stronger than ssj vegito though

Gohan doesn't necessarily need to be much stronger than he was in Z. Maintenance training could've replaced progressive training considering his new lifestyle.

I use a 2x multiplier for Super Saiyan 3. It tends to work out better than 3x for me.
Heavenly King Toriko
Oct 28 2017, 04:03 PM
Beginning of GT Base Goku could possibly be on Super Vegito's level, but at most GT Goku should only need SSJ to utterly destroy DBZ Vegito, SSJ4 Goku isn't needed, so GT Goku one shots effortlessly, in almost any form

:o_O: How in the world is Base Goku on SSJ Vegetto's level?
StrenuousSpider
Oct 28 2017, 04:45 PM
I also still use the 50x multiplier for GT because of rildos statement about him getting dozens of times stronger so i dont see the 2x multiplier working when the material kinda said other wise.

Dub line. Rild said Goku wasn't using even half of his power in the original.
Do you think you can get a screenshot of the sub version.
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I don't have a screenshot but here's the line.

Episode 19
Time: Roughly 19m40s
Context: Rild senses Goku's ki after Goku transforms into a Super Saiyan
Rild: “Up to now, you haven't been putting out half of your power.”
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Oct 28 2017, 09:32 PM
I don't have a screenshot but here's the line.

Episode 19
Time: Roughly 19m40s
Context: Rild senses Goku's ki after Goku transforms into a Super Saiyan
Rild: “Up to now, you haven't been putting out half of your power.”
Thx that works just as well. Still goku can be equal just there ssj form wouldn't which still falls in line with the vegito stuff.

Goku 1
Ssj 2
Ssj2 4
Ssj3 12

Vegito 1
Ssj 50
Ssj2 100
Ssj3 400

But honestly ill still stick with the basic 50x. If not EoZ goku becomes stronger then BoGT goku which makes no sense. Ill put BoGT goku at a 2 i dont think he got much stronger from his z self yet.

EoZ goku 1
Ssj 50
Ssj2 100
Ssj3 400

BoGT goku 2
Ssj 4
Ssj2 8
Ssj3 32
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StrenuousSpider
Oct 29 2017, 02:46 AM
Pyrus
Oct 28 2017, 09:32 PM
I don't have a screenshot but here's the line.

Episode 19
Time: Roughly 19m40s
Context: Rild senses Goku's ki after Goku transforms into a Super Saiyan
Rild: “Up to now, you haven't been putting out half of your power.”
Thx that works just as well. Still goku can be equal just there ssj form wouldn't which still falls in line with the vegito stuff.

Goku 1
Ssj 2
Ssj2 4
Ssj3 12

Vegito 1
Ssj 50
Ssj2 100
Ssj3 400

But honestly ill still stick with the basic 50x. If not EoZ goku becomes stronger then BoGT goku which makes no sense. Ill put BoGT goku at a 2 i dont think he got much stronger from his z self yet.

EoZ goku 1
Ssj 50
Ssj2 100
Ssj3 400

BoGT goku 2
Ssj 4
Ssj2 8
Ssj3 32
Dont make me laugh eoz goku is maybe equal to his buu arc ssj3

Thr gap beteeen vegito and eoz goku is huge damn huge

More lik

Eoz goku 1 = ssj3 gokubuu arc

Lets say gt goku bogt = 10 at very max
and since multipliers are nerfed in gt thus i dont think ssj3 gt goku is above 100

Vegito ssj = 1000

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Oct 29 2017, 07:03 AM
StrenuousSpider
Oct 29 2017, 02:46 AM
Pyrus
Oct 28 2017, 09:32 PM
I don't have a screenshot but here's the line.

Episode 19
Time: Roughly 19m40s
Context: Rild senses Goku's ki after Goku transforms into a Super Saiyan
Rild: “Up to now, you haven't been putting out half of your power.”
Thx that works just as well. Still goku can be equal just there ssj form wouldn't which still falls in line with the vegito stuff.

Goku 1
Ssj 2
Ssj2 4
Ssj3 12

Vegito 1
Ssj 50
Ssj2 100
Ssj3 400

But honestly ill still stick with the basic 50x. If not EoZ goku becomes stronger then BoGT goku which makes no sense. Ill put BoGT goku at a 2 i dont think he got much stronger from his z self yet.

EoZ goku 1
Ssj 50
Ssj2 100
Ssj3 400

BoGT goku 2
Ssj 4
Ssj2 8
Ssj3 32
Dont make me laugh eoz goku is maybe equal to his buu arc ssj3

Thr gap beteeen vegito and eoz goku is huge damn huge

More lik

Eoz goku 1 = ssj3 gokubuu arc

Lets say gt goku bogt = 10 at very max
and since multipliers are nerfed in gt thus i dont think ssj3 gt goku is above 100

Vegito ssj = 1000
EoZ goku was equal to his Buu arc ssj3 self....
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