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Vegito Ssj blue compare to jiren debate; Who's the better warrior from skills to power?
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Topic Started: Oct 25 2017, 11:46 AM (4,007 Views)
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Oct 30 2017, 10:05 PM
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- Oct 27 2017, 09:48 PM
Jiren is substantially stronger than Vegito Blue. He is the mortal that rivals and even could surpass the Gods.
SSJB Goku (Zamasu saga): 10 -Blue Kaioken x10: 100 SSJB Goku (ToP saga): 100 -Blue Kaioken x10: 1,000 --Blue Kaioken x20: 2,000 ---Ultra Instinct: 6,100 Merged Zamasu (initial): 90 -Full Power: 2,500 --LoJ: 3,125 ---Power Weighted: 3,906 Vegito Blue: 4,882 -Blue Kaioken x10: 48,828 --Blue Kaioken x20: 97,656 Beerus: 4,245 Whis: 6,368 Belmod: 5,307 Jiren: 6,000 Jiren doesn't have to be unfathomably more stronger than regular Vegito Blue.
I dont think so The difference between top goku and end of zamasu arc goku is minimal heck i even have them equal since Goku did nothing NOTHING TO IMPROVE HIMSELF Thats why i believe zamasu arc goku = top goku
Why do you have them equals if you saw Goku beat Hit without Kaioken x10 again?
Hmm maybe Just maybe Kaioken 10 goku > goku blue top > hit before top During the u6 if goku hadnt lost too much stamine i am pretty sure even kaiokeb 4 could have wrecked hit But then what is your poibt how come goku gained like *10 what u have written between zamasu and top. That just cant be done while doing zero training and stuff. VEGETA did train.... but goku didnt
Okay, I'm lost on how you still think this.
Goku needed Kaioken x10 on top of Blue to fight evenly with him during Universe 6 & 7 tournament. Fast forward, Goku states Hit is even stronger from back then. This automatically, tells us Goku should need Kaioken if he hasn't improved, which is false since Goku defeated him.
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Oct 31 2017, 03:00 PM
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Jiren is substantially stronger than Vegito Blue. He is the mortal that rivals and even could surpass the Gods.
SSJB Goku (Zamasu saga): 10 -Blue Kaioken x10: 100 SSJB Goku (ToP saga): 100 -Blue Kaioken x10: 1,000 --Blue Kaioken x20: 2,000 ---Ultra Instinct: 6,100 Merged Zamasu (initial): 90 -Full Power: 2,500 --LoJ: 3,125 ---Power Weighted: 3,906 Vegito Blue: 4,882 -Blue Kaioken x10: 48,828 --Blue Kaioken x20: 97,656 Beerus: 4,245 Whis: 6,368 Belmod: 5,307 Jiren: 6,000 Jiren doesn't have to be unfathomably more stronger than regular Vegito Blue.
I dont think so The difference between top goku and end of zamasu arc goku is minimal heck i even have them equal since Goku did nothing NOTHING TO IMPROVE HIMSELF Thats why i believe zamasu arc goku = top goku
Why do you have them equals if you saw Goku beat Hit without Kaioken x10 again?
Hmm maybe Just maybe Kaioken 10 goku > goku blue top > hit before top During the u6 if goku hadnt lost too much stamine i am pretty sure even kaiokeb 4 could have wrecked hit But then what is your poibt how come goku gained like *10 what u have written between zamasu and top. That just cant be done while doing zero training and stuff. VEGETA did train.... but goku didnt
Okay, I'm lost on how you still think this. Goku needed Kaioken x10 on top of Blue to fight evenly with him during Universe 6 & 7 tournament. Fast forward, Goku states Hit is even stronger from back then. This automatically, tells us Goku should need Kaioken if he hasn't improved, which is false since Goku defeated him.
That proves only that top arc ssjb goku is stronger than kaioken 10 goku from u 6 arc
Maybe ... because i dont rhink if the fight had gone more time. That hit would have had any chance against kaioken 10 for me it was prettx straightforward that hit was inferior
Anyway what u have written proves nothing in relation to the power of top goku and end of zamasu arc goku
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Oct 31 2017, 05:59 PM
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Jiren is substantially stronger than Vegito Blue. He is the mortal that rivals and even could surpass the Gods.
SSJB Goku (Zamasu saga): 10 -Blue Kaioken x10: 100 SSJB Goku (ToP saga): 100 -Blue Kaioken x10: 1,000 --Blue Kaioken x20: 2,000 ---Ultra Instinct: 6,100 Merged Zamasu (initial): 90 -Full Power: 2,500 --LoJ: 3,125 ---Power Weighted: 3,906 Vegito Blue: 4,882 -Blue Kaioken x10: 48,828 --Blue Kaioken x20: 97,656 Beerus: 4,245 Whis: 6,368 Belmod: 5,307 Jiren: 6,000 Jiren doesn't have to be unfathomably more stronger than regular Vegito Blue.
I dont think so The difference between top goku and end of zamasu arc goku is minimal heck i even have them equal since Goku did nothing NOTHING TO IMPROVE HIMSELF Thats why i believe zamasu arc goku = top goku
Why do you have them equals if you saw Goku beat Hit without Kaioken x10 again?
Hmm maybe Just maybe Kaioken 10 goku > goku blue top > hit before top During the u6 if goku hadnt lost too much stamine i am pretty sure even kaiokeb 4 could have wrecked hit But then what is your poibt how come goku gained like *10 what u have written between zamasu and top. That just cant be done while doing zero training and stuff. VEGETA did train.... but goku didnt
Okay, I'm lost on how you still think this. Goku needed Kaioken x10 on top of Blue to fight evenly with him during Universe 6 & 7 tournament. Fast forward, Goku states Hit is even stronger from back then. This automatically, tells us Goku should need Kaioken if he hasn't improved, which is false since Goku defeated him.
That proves only that top arc ssjb goku is stronger than kaioken 10 goku from u 6 arc Maybe ... because i dont rhink if the fight had gone more time. That hit would have had any chance against kaioken 10 for me it was prettx straightforward that hit was inferior Anyway what u have written proves nothing in relation to the power of top goku and end of zamasu arc goku
I think you're just stubborn...a lot like me and a few others lol.
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Oct 31 2017, 06:20 PM
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Isn't what supreme Kai said enough? He said jiren is unlike anyone they've faced before which means he's stronger than merged zamasu who gave vegito some trouble
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Oct 31 2017, 07:09 PM
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Isn't what supreme Kai said enough? He said jiren is unlike anyone they've faced before which means he's stronger than merged zamasu who gave vegito some trouble
It was his immortality that was the problem and that right arm of his. Otherwise, every blow he landed never did significant damage that lowered his own ki, despite what the fight showed.
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Oct 31 2017, 08:18 PM
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Isn't what supreme Kai said enough? He said jiren is unlike anyone they've faced before which means he's stronger than merged zamasu who gave vegito some trouble
It was his immortality that was the problem and that right arm of his. Otherwise, every blow he landed never did significant damage that lowered his own ki, despite what the fight showed.
That's indeed the big trouble with Merged Zamasy. I don't believe he is stronger than Jiren, far far from. Jiren only isn't immortal. If they would find Jiren's 'weak spot', if he haves one, he maybe is still 'manageble'. Merged Zamasu is completely unmanageble because his immortality, unless you have a Zeno-button.
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Oct 31 2017, 08:22 PM
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Yeah Vegetto wouldn't have had much trouble with Merged Zamasu if he didn't just keep regenerating.
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Oct 31 2017, 08:24 PM
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I disagree, we see Vegetto being pushed to the limit and having to dodge attacks, as well as being pushed back and matched a lot of the time.
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Oct 31 2017, 08:28 PM
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I disagree, we see Vegetto being pushed to the limit and having to dodge attacks, as well as being pushed back and matched a lot of the time.
Maybe a little bit less convincing than in the manga, but i thought he was still massively kicking Zamasu's 'body', untill his time ran out.
He wouldn't never have defeated him though, even with unlimited Vegetto-time.
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