Vegito Ssj blue compare to jiren debate

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Vegito Ssj blue compare to jiren debate; Who's the better warrior from skills to power?
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Amerson26	Oct 25 2017, 11:46 AM Post #1
Posts: 1,872 Group: Member Member #12,191 Joined: March 29, 2015 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime dragon ball z What Browser do you use? dragon ball z Favourite Manga dragon ball z	Who's the better warrior from skills to power? What I don't understand is going by the ear ring fusion increase... Vegito Ssj blue is for sure over KKx20 goku by a large amount. And do we really know vegito true power? How strong do you guy's have vegito? How strong do you guy's have jiren?



superperfectnerd	Oct 25 2017, 02:45 PM Post #2
Posts: 3,718 Group: Member Member #11,519 Joined: July 15, 2014	It doesn't really matte anymore, as soon as Vegetto uses any of his true power he defuses because it's too much energy or something. Vegetto was also fighting an immortal and would have defeated Merged Zamasu much sooner if the latter couldn't regen. Edited by superperfectnerd, Oct 25 2017, 02:45 PM.



cucumba	Oct 26 2017, 05:17 AM Post #3
Posts: 51 Group: Member Member #13,957 Joined: July 20, 2017 Gender Male Country Malaysia Favourite Anime Initial D What Browser do you use? Firefox Favourite Manga Dragonball	One skill we have not really seen after the Zamasu saga is the aura blade (what is that called?) that Black, merged Zamasu and Vegitto displayed. This could perhaps surprise and hurt Jiren like how it caught Vegeta by surprise the 1st time it was used.



+ Solid Snake	Oct 26 2017, 06:12 PM Post #4
滅Are you frightened? Posts: 8,963 Group: Elite Member Member #6,739 Joined: September 11, 2011 Gender Not Specified Favourite Anime Dragon ball, z, gt, Naruto & Shippuden, Bleach, Rosario + Vampire What Browser do you use? Kept you waiting huh? Favourite Manga Dragon Ball, Naruto, and Bleach	Amerson26 Oct 25 2017, 11:46 AM Who's the better warrior from skills to power? What I don't understand is going by the ear ring fusion increase... Vegito Ssj blue is for sure over KKx20 goku by a large amount. And do we really know vegito true power? How strong do you guy's have vegito? How strong do you guy's have jiren? Vegito is definitely the better fighter, having all of Goku and Vegeta's pluses and very few cons, he's a capable fighter. He has dozens of techniques and a few unique to himself such as a Ki Saber and The Final Kamehameha, even a super charged God Ki enhanced punch that he never fully uses all the way. Power wise, I think he's on Beerus' level at his best, and with Kaioken x10 or even 20, should surpasses Whis in raw power. But considering Vegito can't access this potential, Jiren wins by default since he already surpasses the God of Destruction threshold of power. So in a actual fight Vegito would probably put a little resistance but being unable to use Kaioken to get the edge, he'd end up losing eventually. He'll give Jiren a better fight than Blue Kaioken x20 Goku and Awoken Hit though.
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Namek_Nimrod	Oct 26 2017, 06:27 PM Post #5
Posts: 96 Group: Member Member #13,987 Joined: July 30, 2017	Anyone think fusion with say Gohan and Picollo would have more gains due to wider variation in skillset and diversity. Rather than two more powerful who are very similar = more powerful.



+ Solid Snake	Oct 26 2017, 06:33 PM Post #6
滅Are you frightened? Posts: 8,963 Group: Elite Member Member #6,739 Joined: September 11, 2011 Gender Not Specified Favourite Anime Dragon ball, z, gt, Naruto & Shippuden, Bleach, Rosario + Vampire What Browser do you use? Kept you waiting huh? Favourite Manga Dragon Ball, Naruto, and Bleach	Namek_Nimrod Oct 26 2017, 06:27 PM Anyone think fusion with say Gohan and Picollo would have more gains due to wider variation in skillset and diversity. Rather than two more powerful who are very similar = more powerful. That's true, better durability due to Gohan and way more versatility due to Piccolo. Would produce a capable an intelligent fighter since both of em are smart minded. But I think since Piccolo came up to be around the verge of God tier opponents, he'll be able to give Vegito a good run before the latter use Kaioken though.
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superperfectnerd	Oct 27 2017, 12:50 AM Post #7
Posts: 3,718 Group: Member Member #11,519 Joined: July 15, 2014	Solid Snake Oct 26 2017, 06:12 PM Amerson26 Oct 25 2017, 11:46 AM Who's the better warrior from skills to power? What I don't understand is going by the ear ring fusion increase... Vegito Ssj blue is for sure over KKx20 goku by a large amount. And do we really know vegito true power? How strong do you guy's have vegito? How strong do you guy's have jiren? Vegito is definitely the better fighter, having all of Goku and Vegeta's pluses and very few cons, he's a capable fighter. He has dozens of techniques and a few unique to himself such as a Ki Saber and The Final Kamehameha, even a super charged God Ki enhanced punch that he never fully uses all the way. Power wise, I think he's on Beerus' level at his best, and with Kaioken x10 or even 20, should surpasses Whis in raw power. But considering Vegito can't access this potential, Jiren wins by default since he already surpasses the God of Destruction threshold of power. So in a actual fight Vegito would probably put a little resistance but being unable to use Kaioken to get the edge, he'd end up losing eventually. He'll give Jiren a better fight than Blue Kaioken x20 Goku and Awoken Hit though. Current Vegetto would be quite a bit stronger than he was against Merged Zamasu though.



+ Solid Snake	Oct 27 2017, 02:20 AM Post #8
滅Are you frightened? Posts: 8,963 Group: Elite Member Member #6,739 Joined: September 11, 2011 Gender Not Specified Favourite Anime Dragon ball, z, gt, Naruto & Shippuden, Bleach, Rosario + Vampire What Browser do you use? Kept you waiting huh? Favourite Manga Dragon Ball, Naruto, and Bleach	superperfectnerd Oct 27 2017, 12:50 AM Solid Snake Oct 26 2017, 06:12 PM Amerson26 Oct 25 2017, 11:46 AM Who's the better warrior from skills to power? What I don't understand is going by the ear ring fusion increase... Vegito Ssj blue is for sure over KKx20 goku by a large amount. And do we really know vegito true power? How strong do you guy's have vegito? How strong do you guy's have jiren? Vegito is definitely the better fighter, having all of Goku and Vegeta's pluses and very few cons, he's a capable fighter. He has dozens of techniques and a few unique to himself such as a Ki Saber and The Final Kamehameha, even a super charged God Ki enhanced punch that he never fully uses all the way. Power wise, I think he's on Beerus' level at his best, and with Kaioken x10 or even 20, should surpasses Whis in raw power. But considering Vegito can't access this potential, Jiren wins by default since he already surpasses the God of Destruction threshold of power. So in a actual fight Vegito would probably put a little resistance but being unable to use Kaioken to get the edge, he'd end up losing eventually. He'll give Jiren a better fight than Blue Kaioken x20 Goku and Awoken Hit though. Current Vegetto would be quite a bit stronger than he was against Merged Zamasu though. I assumed it was Zamasu saga Vegito. If it's current Vegito I believe he'd own Jiren with just regular Blue if Kaioken x20 Blue Goku was able to make him actually fight and defend against him, and the fact he struggled with the Spirit Bomb a little till he got a "little" more serious.
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I'll Take This	Oct 27 2017, 02:44 AM Post #9
Posts: 682 Group: Member Member #12,288 Joined: May 1, 2015	Vegito in the Goku Black arc anime was nerf Merge Zamasu should be hundreds of times stronger then Goku black, yet x 10 kaioken SSJB Goku overpowered him. Vegito in the anime was treated like s***, the manga done a bit of justice and made Vegito => Beerus without using CSSJB



jason vorhees	Oct 27 2017, 03:23 AM Post #10
Posts: 642 Group: Member Member #14,111 Joined: October 19, 2017 Gender Male Favourite Anime dragonball ,jjba,yugioh	jiren is stronger.he didn't even use his full power agaisnt ultra instinct goku



+ Solid Snake	Oct 27 2017, 02:36 PM Post #11
滅Are you frightened? Posts: 8,963 Group: Elite Member Member #6,739 Joined: September 11, 2011 Gender Not Specified Favourite Anime Dragon ball, z, gt, Naruto & Shippuden, Bleach, Rosario + Vampire What Browser do you use? Kept you waiting huh? Favourite Manga Dragon Ball, Naruto, and Bleach	jason vorhees Oct 27 2017, 03:23 AM jiren is stronger.he didn't even use his full power agaisnt ultra instinct goku We know he used more on him though, and the Spirit Bomb, powered by Kaioken x20 Blue Goku, was the most effort he used at that point. Of course he didn't use his full power and probably even 1% more, Ultra Instinct Goku was able to fight on par and even overpower him to the extent he had to up his ki. And also, Ultra Instinct Goku was stated to be constantly growing stronger as the fight kept going, so that 1% is now raising from Jiren and he's still getting pounded on and being match, unable to turn the tide how he did before against anyone else.
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+ Ssj3vegito96	Oct 27 2017, 03:01 PM Post #12
Posts: 10,333 Group: Elite Member Member #10,438 Joined: November 2, 2013 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Dragon ball/Z/GT/S, Fullmetal Alchemist:Brotherhood, One Punch Man Favourite Manga DB/Z/S	I'm not sure who's more skilled. Jiren could be at least as strong though
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Saiyan36	Oct 27 2017, 09:48 PM Post #13
Posts: 656 Group: Member Member #13,607 Joined: November 6, 2016	Jiren is substantially stronger than Vegito Blue. He is the mortal that rivals and even could surpass the Gods. Edited by Saiyan36, Oct 27 2017, 10:28 PM.



Joseph Gomes	Oct 27 2017, 10:35 PM Post #14
Posts: 108 Group: Member Member #14,064 Joined: September 19, 2017 Gender Male Country Canada Favourite Anime Steins Gate	Jiren >>> anime SSB Vegito. Vegito wasn't impressive at all, Jiren would've put Merged Zamasu into coma with 1 serious punch



+ Solid Snake	Oct 27 2017, 10:52 PM Post #15
滅Are you frightened? Posts: 8,963 Group: Elite Member Member #6,739 Joined: September 11, 2011 Gender Not Specified Favourite Anime Dragon ball, z, gt, Naruto & Shippuden, Bleach, Rosario + Vampire What Browser do you use? Kept you waiting huh? Favourite Manga Dragon Ball, Naruto, and Bleach	Saiyan36 Oct 27 2017, 09:48 PM Jiren is substantially stronger than Vegito Blue. He is the mortal that rivals and even could surpass the Gods. SSJB Goku (Zamasu saga): 10 -Blue Kaioken x10: 100 SSJB Goku (ToP saga): 100 -Blue Kaioken x10: 1,000 --Blue Kaioken x20: 2,000 ---Ultra Instinct: 6,100 Merged Zamasu (initial): 90 -Full Power: 2,500 --LoJ: 3,125 ---Power Weighted: 3,906 Vegito Blue: 4,882 -Blue Kaioken x10: 48,828 --Blue Kaioken x20: 97,656 Beerus: 4,245 Whis: 6,368 Belmod: 5,307 Jiren: 6,000 Jiren doesn't have to be unfathomably more stronger than regular Vegito Blue.
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