Ultra instinct goku vs beerus.

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Ultra instinct goku vs beerus.
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David	Oct 28 2017, 10:54 AM Post #16
Posts: 53 Group: Member Member #14,033 Joined: August 29, 2017 Gender Male	Quote: No he doesn't. Jiren is said to be destroyer level, or possibly above it. In the manga, they said Jiren > Belmod out right, and Belmod is easily top 3 destroyer seeing how he done just as good as job as anyone their. In the manga they said Jiren>Belmod only in battle power. Belmod can be one of the strongest Gods, but that guy is just a trickster for now. Him taking Liquor blast does not mean anything. Belmod attack didn't damage the Gods so much as well. And Belmod wanted to kill them lol Quote: UI isn't a auto win, just wins against guys weaker. And Beerus is not weaker. And he can use UI as well. Quote: Beerus isn't greater then Jiren, Beerus is practically no different then any destroyer as shown in the manga as they all had their moments. For Jiren to be confirm > Belmod where none of the destroyers are shown to have barely any advantage overs others, suggest that Jiren is like what the anime said, above destroyer level. UI Goku was pushing Jiren back, same Jiren suggested to be => destroyer level. UI Goku with unlimited time win Beerus is the only one who used self movement in the manga and he was near to beat 5 Gods alone (including Belmod) with a ki blast. Even if is not the strongest, is probably the most skilled. Jiren, that is Hakaishin tier, was suppressed against Goku UI. Goku loses. Also, nothing suggest that current Goku is "immune" to Hakai. So Beerus can erase him, anyway. Edited by David, Oct 28 2017, 10:58 AM.



jason vorhees	Oct 28 2017, 11:01 AM Post #17
Posts: 642 Group: Member Member #14,111 Joined: October 19, 2017 Gender Male Favourite Anime dragonball ,jjba,yugioh	Yeah Goku looses here.jiren wasn't at full power agaisnt him



I'll Take This	Oct 29 2017, 10:57 AM Post #18
Posts: 682 Group: Member Member #12,288 Joined: May 1, 2015	Quote: In the manga they said Jiren>Belmod only in battle power. Belmod can be one of the strongest Gods, but that guy is just a trickster for now. Him taking Liquor blast does not mean anything. Belmod attack didn't damage the Gods so much as well. And Belmod wanted to kill them lol He literally threatened to kill them, even the destroyer said this. And no, taking the destroyers attack without damage means a lot considering others are taking destroyers attack and are getting hurt. Quote: And Beerus is not weaker. And he can use UI as well. Yes he is, it's confirmed that Jiren is the person stronger then a destroyer, and UI Goku was gaining the upper hand Quote: Beerus is the only one who used self movement in the manga and he was near to beat 5 Gods alone (including Belmod) with a ki blast. Even if is not the strongest, is probably the most skilled. Never came close to beating any of them, every destroyers know UI apparently. Quote: Jiren, that is Hakaishin tier, was suppressed against Goku UI. Goku loses. Also, nothing suggest that current Goku is "immune" to Hakai. So Beerus can erase him, anyway. And him suppressed was already => destroyer level according to Whis, and Goku lost because his UI ran out. And no, that's ridiculous, since no destroyer has shown any indication that they can hakai people their level or higher, all they hakai was fodders.



StrenuousSpider	Oct 29 2017, 03:20 PM Post #19
Posts: 2,085 Group: Member Member #13,372 Joined: July 11, 2016 Gender Male Country United States	Lol i said he could beat a injured beerus and quintela just not a fresh one and neither at the same time. And you are talking about the shild thing which proves nothing. We have seen several barriers all insanely strong. From 17 to the pride trooper to sidra. Besides that and the later moment at the end we dont see much from him. And like i said he tanked a blast from a injured liquor who then collapsed not long after. So its either 1. He fooled everyone and he did not actually take the blast head on. Waited Untill his opportunity came 2. He tanked the blast head on. But he decided to lay down and pretend to be knocked out instead of just going about and destroying all the other gods because that feat alone would put him way above them all. So again why not just destroy beerus and quintela unless he cant beat both of them injured or not. He can only beat some injured god 1v1. The 1st is more likely. And like ive said before jiren has not been confirmed to be stronger then all the gods. Just his god who is arguably one of the weaker ones. Edited by StrenuousSpider, Oct 29 2017, 03:21 PM.



+ Ssj3vegito96	Oct 29 2017, 03:51 PM Post #20
Posts: 10,327 Group: Elite Member Member #10,438 Joined: November 2, 2013 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Dragon ball/Z/GT/S, Fullmetal Alchemist:Brotherhood, One Punch Man Favourite Manga DB/Z/S	Ultra instinct allows a person to beat virtually any opponent if the fight goes on long enough for them to adapt and reach their opponents level. So yeah goku potentially beat beerus. It would be just like his fight with jiren
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SuperSaiyanGodGogeta	Oct 29 2017, 07:52 PM Post #21
Posts: 1,228 Group: Member Member #11,951 Joined: December 29, 2014 Gender Male	Goku kicks beerus' head off with the initial blitz he used against jiren. Beerus freaked out at a heavily suppressed jiren releasing his ki. In no way is he close to ultra instinct Goku.
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* Yu Narukami	Oct 29 2017, 07:55 PM Post #22
Izanagi! Posts: 12,330 Group: Retired Staff Member #6,446 Joined: July 3, 2011 Gender Not Specified Country None	Ssj3vegito96 Oct 29 2017, 03:51 PM Ultra instinct allows a person to beat virtually any opponent if the fight goes on long enough for them to adapt and reach their opponents level. So yeah goku potentially beat beerus. It would be just like his fight with jiren Is that how it actually works?



DrewHak	Oct 29 2017, 08:20 PM Post #23
The Jew Posts: 166 Group: Admiral Member #9,701 Joined: July 3, 2013 Gender Not Specified Country Chile Favourite Anime Dragon Ball Z What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga Naruto	Yu Narukami Oct 29 2017, 07:55 PM Ssj3vegito96 Oct 29 2017, 03:51 PM Ultra instinct allows a person to beat virtually any opponent if the fight goes on long enough for them to adapt and reach their opponents level. So yeah goku potentially beat beerus. It would be just like his fight with jiren Is that how it actually works? If that was how it truly worked, Beerus would've beaten all of those other GoDs in the manga. Fairly certain it allows your body to react to danger without thinking, but it is limited by your own speed. I'm sure there is some adapation factor there because Goku was hitting those new speeds for the first time, and all forms or techniques can be "mastered" to an extent, but there is a limit to what adaptation can do for you. We don't have any proof that Goku is faster than Beerus. As of now, we have no true feat comparison to be able to say that Jiren > Beerus either. So for now Beerus is stronger than both of them. Rumors don't constitute fact, even if some godly being says that it "may be true". That shock from Beerus to Jiren's restricted power that was previously mentioned was probably just him wondering how the hell a mortal was so powerful in general, not compared to him. Until proven otherwise, Beerus beats Goku, no hakai necessary. Edited by DrewHak, Oct 29 2017, 08:21 PM.
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David	Oct 29 2017, 09:04 PM Post #24
Posts: 53 Group: Member Member #14,033 Joined: August 29, 2017 Gender Male	Quote: He literally threatened to kill them, even the destroyer said this. And no, taking the destroyers attack without damage means a lot considering others are taking destroyers attack and are getting hurt. Yeah, and his attack didn't damage them so much. The others are getting hurt because they fought MORE than Belmod lol. That guy pretended to be down just after one attack...again, is a trickster. Quote: Yes he is, it's confirmed that Jiren is the person stronger then a destroyer, and UI Goku was gaining the upper hand No, he's not. You have some real evidence except your headcanon? :/ Jiren is still hakaishin tier, and he was clear far above to Goku UI. Jiren was suppressed and Goku never damage him. Lol even his ki blast did nothing to Jiren....like i said, UI is not an auto win and is not unbeatable. Quote: Never came close to beating any of them, every destroyers know UI apparently. Yeah Gin said "you save all of us" because is retarded, of course. Only Beerus used UI. We don't know how much the other Gods are good in that ability. Beerus was pretty good in the manga. Quote: And him suppressed was already => destroyer level according to Whis, and Goku lost because his UI ran out. And no, that's ridiculous, since no destroyer has shown any indication that they can hakai people their level or higher, all they hakai was fodders. How many times you need to say this nonsense? :/ Jiren suppressed is not>Gods. Whis just assumed that Jiren could be above the Gods because his power was really great. Whis already know about a mortal above the Gods is in the tournament and this mortal con be only Jiren. It doesn't mean that suppressed Jiren is>Gods, come on...Whis understands that Jiren maximum level can be compared to that of the Hakaishins or perhaps even more powerful. He just accounting Jiren's hypothetical full power, that's all. Jiren is confirmed Hakaishin tier in Toei site and above to Belmod only in battle power in the manga, this is a fact. Again, Jiren was still suppressed against Goku. No destroyer has shown any indication that they can hakai people their level or higher, because they NEVER fought against someone stronger than them .-. In the manga, Goku was near to destroy merged Zamasu, who was strong/stronger than him. It did not work because he was immortal and because he used Mai as a shield. We don't know Hakai limits. Seriously, if Goku was>Beerus, it would be told by Whis himself.



jason vorhees	Oct 31 2017, 12:34 AM Post #25
Posts: 642 Group: Member Member #14,111 Joined: October 19, 2017 Gender Male Favourite Anime dragonball ,jjba,yugioh	Beerus still wins



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