Should children who are not vaccinated be allowed to go to school with other children?

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Should children who are not vaccinated be allowed to go to school with other children?
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+ Saiyan Paladin	Sep 21 2017, 03:33 AM Post #1
Posts: 1,920 Group: Elite Member Member #10,232 Joined: September 21, 2013 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Dragon Ball Kai, Yu Yu Hakusho What Browser do you use? Firefox, Chrome Favourite Manga Dragon Ball, Berserk	Say you have those anti-vaxxer parents who don't vaccinate their children. Should their kids be allowed in schools around hundreds of others?



EMIYA	Sep 21 2017, 03:55 AM Post #2
"I am the bone of my sword." Posts: 11,326 Group: Super Moderator Member #8,292 Joined: September 16, 2012 Gender Not Specified Country United States Favourite Anime Clannad, Shinsekai Yori What Browser do you use? Mozilla Firefox Favourite Manga Hellsing, Elfen Lied, Trigun Maximum	The answer is simply no and some schools will refuse to allow children who have not been properly vaccinated to attend. I remember long ago that my Elementary/Middle School was like this. You had to get these vaccinations. I think the last sentence of your post really just says it all. Should these children, who have not been vaccinated from different diseases, be allowed to hang around hundreds of children? And it's like...of course not. A lack of vaccination just means causing harm not only to the child in question but the potential harm in others as well.



+ Emmeth	Sep 21 2017, 04:03 AM Post #3
I ♥ Yoeri Posts: 20,075 Group: Legend Member #8,985 Joined: February 7, 2013 Country Japan	We got vaccinated in school, I think. I don't really see the issue until it's time for the vaccine.
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+ Saiyan Paladin	Sep 21 2017, 04:47 AM Post #4
Posts: 1,920 Group: Elite Member Member #10,232 Joined: September 21, 2013 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Dragon Ball Kai, Yu Yu Hakusho What Browser do you use? Firefox, Chrome Favourite Manga Dragon Ball, Berserk	EMIYA Sep 21 2017, 03:55 AM The answer is simply no and some schools will refuse to allow children who have not been properly vaccinated to attend. I remember long ago that my Elementary/Middle School was like this. You had to get these vaccinations. I think the last sentence of your post really just says it all. Should these children, who have not been vaccinated from different diseases, be allowed to hang around hundreds of children? And it's like...of course not. A lack of vaccination just means causing harm not only to the child in question but the potential harm in others as well. I mean, I agree with you here. Anti-Vaxxers are scary.



EMIYA	Sep 21 2017, 06:28 AM Post #5
"I am the bone of my sword." Posts: 11,326 Group: Super Moderator Member #8,292 Joined: September 16, 2012 Gender Not Specified Country United States Favourite Anime Clannad, Shinsekai Yori What Browser do you use? Mozilla Firefox Favourite Manga Hellsing, Elfen Lied, Trigun Maximum	Here, I"ll just let Penn and Teller lay it down.



+ Emmeth	Sep 21 2017, 06:39 AM Post #6
I ♥ Yoeri Posts: 20,075 Group: Legend Member #8,985 Joined: February 7, 2013 Country Japan	Explain this for me... Are all babies vaccinated upon birth or close after? At least for those parents who want their baby vaccinated. Also, are there really that many diseases going around that vaccines are absolutely necessary?
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~~Doggo Champion 2k17~~	Sep 21 2017, 01:26 PM Post #7
Posts: 7,931 Group: GTFO Member #6,380 Joined: June 20, 2011 Country United States Favourite Anime here comes What Browser do you use? o shit waddup! Favourite Manga dat boi	Emmeth Sep 21 2017, 06:39 AM Explain this for me... Are all babies vaccinated upon birth or close after? At least for those parents who want their baby vaccinated. Also, are there really that many diseases going around that vaccines are absolutely necessary? Yes and yes. Vaccines are absolutely necessary despite what pseudo-science tells you.



* Mitas	Sep 21 2017, 02:53 PM Post #8
It truly was a Shawshank redemption Posts: 12,129 Group: Retired Staff Member #2,993 Joined: December 16, 2007 Gender Male Favourite Anime DBZ What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga DBZ, Full Metal Alchemist	No, there aren't that many diseases going around at the moment....because most people are vaccinated. It's easy for people to think 'oh, but I haven't contracted these diseases, and I don't know anybody who has, so is it really that big of an issue?' because we live in a vaccinated world. You only have to look at the increased numbers of recorded cases of diseases that we vaccinate for, e.g. measles, in recent years to see how important it is to keep the population vaccinated. To answer the topic question, no they shouldn't. Vaccines should be mandatory too. Unless you live in a literal bubble that prohibits contact with any other human being, then you can do what you want.
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+ Steve	Sep 21 2017, 10:07 PM Post #9
Greetings. I will be your waifu this season. Posts: 19,471 Group: Legend Member #5,710 Joined: February 7, 2011 Gender Male Country United Kingdom Favourite Anime Hunter x Hunter(2011) What Browser do you use? Mozilla Firefox Favourite Manga Berserk all day erry day	Definite no. It's a shame for the kids, it's not their fault they have stupid parents but that's no reason to put the others in danger. We all live in society to enjoy the benefits that it brings and that should include relative safety from harm, including disease of course. If people aren't going to follow the rules they don't deserve to be a part of it. Frankly as far as I'm concerned if you don't vaccinate your kids you should no longer be allowed to have them. I'm not sure why that isn't enforced yet. I'm sure it might be in like 20 years when we see the results of this s***ty movement, given that a lot of the kids will be dead or generally in ill health because their parents would rather believe in conspiracy theories than keep their kids safe. "1 in every 2000 people vaccinated get ill from it, that means it didn't work for the other 1999 people!"
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+ Ginyu	Sep 26 2017, 11:39 AM Post #10
Leve Feyenoord 1! Posts: 4,490 Group: Elite Member Member #9,685 Joined: June 30, 2013 Gender Female Country Netherlands Favourite Anime NJPW What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga Reading is for nerds, yo!	Wait, what exactly is the danger to the kids that ARE vaccinated? I mean, you're vaccinated, so you're immune, doesn't matter if the anti-vaxxer kid gets it, it won't be a problem for you right? Or did I not pay attention in biology class?
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~~Doggo Champion 2k17~~	Sep 26 2017, 01:20 PM Post #11
Posts: 7,931 Group: GTFO Member #6,380 Joined: June 20, 2011 Country United States Favourite Anime here comes What Browser do you use? o shit waddup! Favourite Manga dat boi	GinyuTokusentai Sep 26 2017, 11:39 AM Wait, what exactly is the danger to the kids that ARE vaccinated? I mean, you're vaccinated, so you're immune, doesn't matter if the anti-vaxxer kid gets it, it won't be a problem for you right? Or did I not pay attention in biology class? Measles and whooping cough are both currently on the rise because parents aren't vaccinating their children. To answer your question as to how and why unvaccinated children can still get sick, it's best to turn to sources other than me since I'm not a scientist. Quote: "Vaccination protects against illnesses in two main ways. First, the person being vaccinated is protected, because the vaccine stimulates his or her immune system to recognize the harmful bacteria or virus in the future and provide a protective response. This is the process of being “immunized.” Vaccines are developed to provide the benefits of immunization as effectively as possible to all people who receive them, while producing as few side effects as possible. However, just as people vary in the benefits they get from prescription medicines, people also are different in their immunity from vaccination. Many people get maximum benefit while some not as much. In addition, protection from vaccination can decrease over time. Doctors call this “waning immunity.” That’s what makes herd immunity — the second form of protection from vaccines — so important. Just as a herd of animals will form a protective circle around its most vulnerable members, herd immunity refers to how well immunized people in a community protect the less- or nonimmunized people in that same community. This is an extremely important benefit of vaccination programs, because not everyone can receive vaccines, for medical reasons, and because some people who have been vaccinated will not fully respond. When it comes to battling diseases, humans need the protection of herds, too." http://labblog.uofmhealth.org/body-work/new-study-emphasizes-harm-of-vaccine-refusals Some other sources on the issue: https://www.vaccinestoday.eu/stories/why-do-some-vaccinated-kids-still-get-sick/ https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/hcp/patient-ed/conversations/downloads/not-vacc-risks-color-office.pdf



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