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| * Mitas | Sep 11 2017, 12:20 PM Post #1 |
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I saw a story about organ donation and thought I'd bring it up here. How do you feel about it personally? What do you think the laws surrounding it should be? I think that rather than having to opt-in for organ donation, you should have to opt-out. I believe that's how it is in Wales (among other countries) and I think it should be the general law in the UK (and the rest of the world). With the current laws, the organs of those undecided on the matter are wasted. It makes sense to flip it so that as man organs can be used as possible. Personally, I have no qualms with my organs being donated after death. I generally lean towards there not being an afterlife and so I don't really see a reason not do it. I should really opt-in, but haven't as so far, which I guess makes me part of the problem of organ shortage. However, my own situation is another reason I believe consent should be presumed, to save cases like mine where I'm fine with it but just too lazy. |
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| ll DragonBallZ Fan ll | Oct 9 2017, 01:35 AM Post #2 |
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I think that you make a good point and it certainly would help many people in need of organs if the default position was flipped the other way (that is to the positive). I would add that in the US, as I understand it, you do not have the option of making this decision until you earn your drivers license. I think you could apply a similar sort of rule for it not becoming the default until such an age is achieved and then giving the person to opt out. |
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| + Emmeth | Oct 14 2017, 12:28 PM Post #3 |
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I agree there should be an opt-out option instead of opt-in, but I don't think it should be mandatory. The freedom of choice is one of humankind's traits we need to uphold. I would never personally deny anyone any healthy organs I might leave behind, but I'd still leave it up to family to decide. |
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| + Ginyu | Oct 14 2017, 12:42 PM Post #4 |
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Here we have an Opt-out as well. Which I believe is the best, you're an organ donor unless you specifically state otherwise. As long as there is choice though, that's priority #1. Organ donation should definitely not be mandatory. Opt-out is the best way. |
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| Dankness Lava | Oct 14 2017, 01:57 PM Post #5 |
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I agree with this idea. I'm a donor and honestly don't understand why someone wouldn't want to donate, but like others said, it's up to the person. |
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| + Steve | Oct 14 2017, 08:58 PM Post #6 |
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For me I feel it's more of a respect thing for the family of the deceased person, not everyone is going to be a fan of the idea of their loved ones being sliced up before their body is even cold. Of course, some are, there's lots of stories about people listening to the heartbeat of a donor who was special to them and stuff like that. Personally I'm not really sure, largely because I'm massively undecided on what I believe happens after you die. Imagine how horrible it'd be if stuff like the Egyptian view on it was real and your unprotected organs messed you up in the afterlife? Alternatively what if your soul resides in your body and parts of you are just trapped within others for the rest of their lives... Perhaps you could take over their bodies though. In any case does everyone being a donor automatically actually work? I realize it can be hard to get organs but at the same time if everyone was a donor and there was so many more organs floating about, surely there wouldn't be enough time to perform surgeries for them all? I feel the current system is fine, people should just be encouraged more. And what happens if there's some sort of tragedy and like hundreds of people die at once, suddenly having thousands of organs to juggle around would probably be extremely messy and just slow things down for everyone because while everyone there is a donor they'd still need to test how suitable the organs are. You might be a donor but when you die you could still have had rabies or something unknowingly, obviously they can't just toss organs in to people without checking. |
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| * Yu Narukami | Oct 14 2017, 09:38 PM Post #7 |
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It really should be an opt-out system. If people doubt or feel strongly enough about it, then they can opt out. People might say 'the same argument could be applied to the system we have now', yes, but with an opt-out system, there are more organs available, and with an opt-in system, there's a lack of them. |
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| + Saiyan Paladin | Oct 15 2017, 12:17 AM Post #8 |
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I don't think it should be mandatory because of the amount of people who have unhealthy lifestyles which lead to having s***ty organs. We could certainly utilize more organ donors though. I'm technically listed as an organ donor, but I have no clue who would want my organs after years of cigarette smoking and drinking. |
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| + Steve | Oct 15 2017, 01:24 AM Post #9 |
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In any case this will probably all be irrelevant in a few years anyway, since we'll likely be able to grow people new organs from their own tissue. Which is obviously a superior solution since it's their own DNA and they wouldn't have to go on meds for the rest of their life like people do currently, I'm pretty sure. I wonder how different people will feel about it in that eventuality? Then again even if it becomes easy to do they'll probably make it stupid expensive. |
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| + Ssj3vegito96 | Oct 16 2017, 06:06 AM Post #10 |
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Ehh aren't we getting pretty close to just 3D printing organs? |
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| + Ginyu | Oct 16 2017, 06:58 AM Post #11 |
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Don't know how far away that exactly is, and until that time you simply need an alternative. i.e. Organ donation. |
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| Southern Gothic | Oct 17 2017, 05:21 PM Post #12 |
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I don't believe it should be mandatory. If the deceased is not an organ donor, or dies without leaving permission for their organs to be used, then custody of the body should be given to the next of kin and they can make the decision from that point on. I am registered as an organ donor, so my personal views on that are obvious, but when it comes to someone I care deeply about, I do feel there is an issue of privacy and respect involved. It seems more proper for the state to have to get permission from the family rather than making the decision without consultation. |
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| * Yu Narukami | Oct 17 2017, 05:34 PM Post #13 |
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To be honest, in this instance, I'd welcome an influx of organs over respecting the privacy of family members regarding one of their deceased loved one's organs. In situations where they're asked, they would rarely come to a swift conclusion, something which is necessary if we're talking about organs and how long they'll last before becoming unviable/unusable. I acknowledge that the idea can be concerning or disturbing to some people, but what good is not using the organs? The individual is dead, the process isn't desecrating their corpse and the move can save countless people who're despaerate for transplants. |
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| * Mitas | Oct 17 2017, 06:06 PM Post #14 |
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I don't think that loved ones should have any real claim on the deceased's body or what to do with it, especially if there's some way that body can be used to help out people who are actually alive. Like Drew said, the bodies aren't being desecrated in any way. And if people are caught up in the 'oh, but you can't cut apart a body or take anything away from it', what do you think happens to bodies 5, 10, 20 years down the line? They'll be gone by then anyway, so what's the point in declaring the organs untouchable if they'll eventually be touched by decay anyway? It feels stupid to have people dying from lack of organs just because other people can't handle the concept of death. |
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| ll DragonBallZ Fan ll | Oct 17 2017, 06:49 PM Post #15 |
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I think that Mitas touches on a key point here. To my understanding, one of if not the chief reason for not allowing a deceased person's organs to be donated who has healthy organs to give is brushing up against "respect for the deceased" and the refusal to acknowledge the reality of death with the idea that the "essence" of the lifeless body is still in some way intact (and therefore alive in a vague sense) and would have similar interests to a living body that does not want to be cut into and tampered with or defiled. Therefore, the family who gets this decision who holds similar type of belief to what I just described reason that "well, he/she would not want to be defiled, so the right thing to do is to have respect for their body and keep their "essence" intact." I understand why people come to this sort of conclusion given their beliefs surrounding life and death, so I do not want to knock them for it too much, although I do see it as a rather substantial problem (particularly if you find yourself in need of an organ transplant and even though there are many potential transplant organs that could be utilized to save your life, they are being buried or burned instead due to the fact that our neighbors are not being seriously challenged on their beliefs surrounding death). So, to expand on Mitas point, I think it would be much healthier for us as a society to openly discuss and embrace the concept of the reality of death, which, in regards to this topic, would almost definitely lead to helping prolong and improve other peoples lives that are still around. I encourage pushback from others if they have other strong reasons for not wanting the organs of deceased to be donated or otherwise would like to defend the "respect for the deceased" view that I submitted as I am interested in your perspectives. Edited by ll DragonBallZ Fan ll, Oct 17 2017, 06:52 PM.
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