Notaka

Sep 4 2017, 04:58 PM

So that 10+ feet monster in only 6 in power levels ? and that hercule could easily hand its a** to it in a platter ?

Why is Satan 3x the average human ? he could only be like 8 but still much stronger than an average human with a power level of 5.

Pyrus

Sep 5 2017, 01:35 AM

The bus pulling and zombie thing is filler. Satan's feats in the manga are decent for a human – smashing a stack of 15(?) tiles with immense effort and pain, and fighting off the gunmen who shot Bee, and even then he was out of breath and couldn't KO them.

Unless we're counting filler...then I dunno.

StrenuousSpider

Sep 5 2017, 01:26 AM

Notaka

Sep 4 2017, 04:58 PM

So that 10+ feet monster in only 6 in power levels ? and that hercule could easily hand its a** to it in a platter ?

Why is Satan 3x the average human ? he could only be like 8 but still much stronger than an average human with a power level of 5.

If i remember correctly satan pulled some busses and punched threw them i dont think the average human could do that what so ever. Or what about when hell broke lose and he was physically overpowering many zombie people. Effortlessly beats any martial artists and one shot spopovich who seems to be much stronger then your average human who also happens to be a martial artist. So for satan to beat these kind of people Effortlessly he has to be both skilled and stronger. Hell thinking more on satans skills and strength fears i can say he is low dragonball teir.

Notaka

Sep 5 2017, 02:01 AM

StrenuousSpider

Sep 5 2017, 01:26 AM

Notaka

Sep 4 2017, 04:58 PM

So that 10+ feet monster in only 6 in power levels ? and that hercule could easily hand its a** to it in a platter ?

Why is Satan 3x the average human ? he could only be like 8 but still much stronger than an average human with a power level of 5.

If i remember correctly satan pulled some busses and punched threw them i dont think the average human could do that what so ever. Or what about when hell broke lose and he was physically overpowering many zombie people. Effortlessly beats any martial artists and one shot spopovich who seems to be much stronger then your average human who also happens to be a martial artist. So for satan to beat these kind of people Effortlessly he has to be both skilled and stronger. Hell thinking more on satans skills and strength fears i can say he is low dragonball teir.

That monster could easily lift and throw a bus, let alone pull it. That monster could easily stomp these Zombies, which seem to be around normal human level.

Having Satan at 15 means that he is stronger than BoDB Goku (who's at 10) which is bull****.

Hercule is at best 8, and that's generous for him.

Pyrus

Sep 5 2017, 03:29 AM

Well, like I said, Goku's power level of 10 is his raw ki rating; it doesn't take into account his durability and physical strength. That was when he had some training from Grandpa Gohan IIRC, but nothing else. At that point, he could get hit full-on by Bulma's speeding automobile and inflict more damage to the car than himself, get shot point-blank by her pistol and suffer a minor headache, bash a pterodactyl's skull in with his Power Pole, take axes to the head, smash boulders with his bare hands, and wrangle fish easily weighing in at several hundred pounds.

Even if Mark had a power level of 6.5, he could have the physical strength of someone rating at 15. But I can't buy Goku having trouble punching through a stack of tiles or being unable to knock out an armed mook. Mark's feats in the anime are conflicting since he keeps his manga feats while adding that ridiculous bus feat as well (and even then he's straining to accomplish such, and proceeded to literally turn red ripping a phone book in half). On top of that, Panput, arguably the weakest guy we saw at the old tournaments, broke a brick wall with his elbow without pain or fatigue, which trumps Mark's tile feat.

I really think the anime stuff contradicts the manga's portrayal of Mr Satan. It's like going from one extreme to another. He's really nothing impressive in the manga, his best "feat" being his win of the 24th TB, but that was against sub-par competition as the announcer mentioned. Toriyama himself didn't view Mark as an almighty human slayer since he compared him to Bob Sapp.

Pyrus

Sep 5 2017, 03:29 AM

Well, like I said, Goku's power level of 10 is his raw ki rating; it doesn't take into account his durability and physical strength. That was when he had some training from Grandpa Gohan IIRC, but nothing else. At that point, he could get hit full-on by Bulma's speeding automobile and inflict more damage to the car than himself, get shot point-blank by her pistol and suffer a minor headache, bash a pterodactyl's skull in with his Power Pole, take axes to the head, smash boulders with his bare hands, and wrangle fish easily weighing in at several hundred pounds.

Even if Mark had a power level of 6.5, he could have the physical strength of someone rating at 15. But I can't buy Goku having trouble punching through a stack of tiles or being unable to knock out an armed mook. Mark's feats in the anime are conflicting since he keeps his manga feats while adding that ridiculous bus feat as well (and even then he's straining to accomplish such, and proceeded to literally turn red ripping a phone book in half). On top of that, Panput, arguably the weakest guy we saw at the old tournaments, broke a brick wall with his elbow without pain or fatigue, which trumps Mark's tile feat.

I really think the anime stuff contradicts the manga's portrayal of Mr Satan. It's like going from one extreme to another. He's really nothing impressive in the manga, his best "feat" being his win of the 24th TB, but that was against sub-par competition as the announcer mentioned. Toriyama himself didn't view Mark as an almighty human slayer since he compared him to Bob Sapp.