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Beerus vs Zeno (condition fight)
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But can't he really see Dyspo speed ? I though he was able to react since he is stronger than the gods.
Being stronger =/= Being faster
Except in DBZ speed correlates with power, the stronger you get the faster you get and the more durable you get.
If that were the case Ginyu wouldn't have praised his speed when his power was a measly 23,000.

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Didn't Zeno not have any trouble following Hit and Goku during their fight ?


Quite the opposite, he needed slow-mo.

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Have you ever considered Zen-Oh can simply erase or destroy whatever he wants within the Dragon Ball multiverse? Even if he can control what can be destroyed or erased, he was present in the future timeline so this simply means he can withstand his own ability.
No no it dose not. He chose to erase future universe 7 not himself what is so hard about this to understand. He was not targeting himself. We do not know what he can and can not take if he can even be touched like that at all.
He was part of universe 7's future timeline by virtue of being physically present, so if he had intent on destroying all of that, he should've been gone too since after he did it he didn't go back to his palace outside all 12 universes and start over from scratch. His attendants and even the Grand Priest are gone in that timeline so that means he erased or destroyed everything that was left in that future timeline.
He destroyed future universe 7 not the multiverse. Hell if i remember correctly there are now 4 guards not 2 so they came with him. Again just because he was present when he erased FU7 dose not mean he was targeting himself. When freiza blows up planet Vegeta he was targeting the planet not himself so why wouldn't zeno a guy who can pick and choose what he wants erased be able to erase what around himself witg out targeting himself. His erasure ability is not a explosion it would not send any type of shockwave towards himself.
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Have you ever considered Zen-Oh can simply erase or destroy whatever he wants within the Dragon Ball multiverse? Even if he can control what can be destroyed or erased, he was present in the future timeline so this simply means he can withstand his own ability.
No no it dose not. He chose to erase future universe 7 not himself what is so hard about this to understand. He was not targeting himself. We do not know what he can and can not take if he can even be touched like that at all.
He was part of universe 7's future timeline by virtue of being physically present, so if he had intent on destroying all of that, he should've been gone too since after he did it he didn't go back to his palace outside all 12 universes and start over from scratch. His attendants and even the Grand Priest are gone in that timeline so that means he erased or destroyed everything that was left in that future timeline.
He destroyed future universe 7 not the multiverse. Hell if i remember correctly there are now 4 guards not 2 so they came with him. Again just because he was present when he erased FU7 dose not mean he was targeting himself. When freiza blows up planet Vegeta he was targeting the planet not himself so why wouldn't zeno a guy who can pick and choose what he wants erased be able to erase what around himself witg out targeting himself. His erasure ability is not a explosion it would not send any type of shockwave towards himself.
He destroyed the multiverse of that timeline, but even if the attendants didn't get erased, the Grand Priest would've been killed since he isn't present. The guy was literally floating in emptiness and if his attendants or even the Grand Priest didnt recover him, indicates that he was at least dead and so are the other Angels.
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Have you ever considered Zen-Oh can simply erase or destroy whatever he wants within the Dragon Ball multiverse? Even if he can control what can be destroyed or erased, he was present in the future timeline so this simply means he can withstand his own ability.
No no it dose not. He chose to erase future universe 7 not himself what is so hard about this to understand. He was not targeting himself. We do not know what he can and can not take if he can even be touched like that at all.
He was part of universe 7's future timeline by virtue of being physically present, so if he had intent on destroying all of that, he should've been gone too since after he did it he didn't go back to his palace outside all 12 universes and start over from scratch. His attendants and even the Grand Priest are gone in that timeline so that means he erased or destroyed everything that was left in that future timeline.
He destroyed future universe 7 not the multiverse. Hell if i remember correctly there are now 4 guards not 2 so they came with him. Again just because he was present when he erased FU7 dose not mean he was targeting himself. When freiza blows up planet Vegeta he was targeting the planet not himself so why wouldn't zeno a guy who can pick and choose what he wants erased be able to erase what around himself witg out targeting himself. His erasure ability is not a explosion it would not send any type of shockwave towards himself.
He destroyed the multiverse of that timeline, but even if the attendants didn't get erased, the Grand Priest would've been killed since he isn't present. The guy was literally floating in emptiness and if his attendants or even the Grand Priest didnt recover him, indicates that he was at least dead and so are the other Angels.
When was it ever said he destroyed the multiverse. Even if he did destroy the multiverse the same thing applies he was targeting the multiverse not himself not himself ill say it again not himself and the guards as well.
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But can't he really see Dyspo speed ? I though he was able to react since he is stronger than the gods.
Being stronger =/= Being faster
Except in DBZ speed correlates with power, the stronger you get the faster you get and the more durable you get.
If that were the case Ginyu wouldn't have praised his speed when his power was a measly 23,000.

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Didn't Zeno not have any trouble following Hit and Goku during their fight ?


Quite the opposite, he needed slow-mo.

It could just be Ginyu just gloating. He didn't even know he had a battle power of 23,000. The guy was completely oblivious.

And I was talking about the First fight between Goku and Hit. He said that it was a good fight meaning he could have easily seen it.
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Have you ever considered Zen-Oh can simply erase or destroy whatever he wants within the Dragon Ball multiverse? Even if he can control what can be destroyed or erased, he was present in the future timeline so this simply means he can withstand his own ability.
No no it dose not. He chose to erase future universe 7 not himself what is so hard about this to understand. He was not targeting himself. We do not know what he can and can not take if he can even be touched like that at all.
He was part of universe 7's future timeline by virtue of being physically present, so if he had intent on destroying all of that, he should've been gone too since after he did it he didn't go back to his palace outside all 12 universes and start over from scratch. His attendants and even the Grand Priest are gone in that timeline so that means he erased or destroyed everything that was left in that future timeline.
He destroyed future universe 7 not the multiverse. Hell if i remember correctly there are now 4 guards not 2 so they came with him. Again just because he was present when he erased FU7 dose not mean he was targeting himself. When freiza blows up planet Vegeta he was targeting the planet not himself so why wouldn't zeno a guy who can pick and choose what he wants erased be able to erase what around himself witg out targeting himself. His erasure ability is not a explosion it would not send any type of shockwave towards himself.
He destroyed the multiverse of that timeline, but even if the attendants didn't get erased, the Grand Priest would've been killed since he isn't present. The guy was literally floating in emptiness and if his attendants or even the Grand Priest didnt recover him, indicates that he was at least dead and so are the other Angels.
When was it ever said he destroyed the multiverse. Even if he did destroy the multiverse the same thing applies he was targeting the multiverse not himself not himself ill say it again not himself and the guards as well.
I bet but why destroy all but just your attendants? Why leave out the Grand Priest? That doesn't make sense that he'll only single the attendants out and erase other important figures cause apparently he's more of an attendant then the actual attendants are.
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Have you ever considered Zen-Oh can simply erase or destroy whatever he wants within the Dragon Ball multiverse? Even if he can control what can be destroyed or erased, he was present in the future timeline so this simply means he can withstand his own ability.
No no it dose not. He chose to erase future universe 7 not himself what is so hard about this to understand. He was not targeting himself. We do not know what he can and can not take if he can even be touched like that at all.
He was part of universe 7's future timeline by virtue of being physically present, so if he had intent on destroying all of that, he should've been gone too since after he did it he didn't go back to his palace outside all 12 universes and start over from scratch. His attendants and even the Grand Priest are gone in that timeline so that means he erased or destroyed everything that was left in that future timeline.
He destroyed future universe 7 not the multiverse. Hell if i remember correctly there are now 4 guards not 2 so they came with him. Again just because he was present when he erased FU7 dose not mean he was targeting himself. When freiza blows up planet Vegeta he was targeting the planet not himself so why wouldn't zeno a guy who can pick and choose what he wants erased be able to erase what around himself witg out targeting himself. His erasure ability is not a explosion it would not send any type of shockwave towards himself.
He destroyed the multiverse of that timeline, but even if the attendants didn't get erased, the Grand Priest would've been killed since he isn't present. The guy was literally floating in emptiness and if his attendants or even the Grand Priest didnt recover him, indicates that he was at least dead and so are the other Angels.
When was it ever said he destroyed the multiverse. Even if he did destroy the multiverse the same thing applies he was targeting the multiverse not himself not himself ill say it again not himself and the guards as well.
I bet but why destroy all but just your attendants? Why leave out the Grand Priest? That doesn't make sense that he'll only single the attendants out and erase other important figures cause apparently he's more of an attendant then the actual attendants are.
I dont remember it ever being confirmed he erased the multiverse. Anyway whats to say grand priest got erased even if the multiverse was erased zenos place is outside of it.
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Have you ever considered Zen-Oh can simply erase or destroy whatever he wants within the Dragon Ball multiverse? Even if he can control what can be destroyed or erased, he was present in the future timeline so this simply means he can withstand his own ability.
No no it dose not. He chose to erase future universe 7 not himself what is so hard about this to understand. He was not targeting himself. We do not know what he can and can not take if he can even be touched like that at all.
He was part of universe 7's future timeline by virtue of being physically present, so if he had intent on destroying all of that, he should've been gone too since after he did it he didn't go back to his palace outside all 12 universes and start over from scratch. His attendants and even the Grand Priest are gone in that timeline so that means he erased or destroyed everything that was left in that future timeline.
He destroyed future universe 7 not the multiverse. Hell if i remember correctly there are now 4 guards not 2 so they came with him. Again just because he was present when he erased FU7 dose not mean he was targeting himself. When freiza blows up planet Vegeta he was targeting the planet not himself so why wouldn't zeno a guy who can pick and choose what he wants erased be able to erase what around himself witg out targeting himself. His erasure ability is not a explosion it would not send any type of shockwave towards himself.
He destroyed the multiverse of that timeline, but even if the attendants didn't get erased, the Grand Priest would've been killed since he isn't present. The guy was literally floating in emptiness and if his attendants or even the Grand Priest didnt recover him, indicates that he was at least dead and so are the other Angels.
When was it ever said he destroyed the multiverse. Even if he did destroy the multiverse the same thing applies he was targeting the multiverse not himself not himself ill say it again not himself and the guards as well.
I bet but why destroy all but just your attendants? Why leave out the Grand Priest? That doesn't make sense that he'll only single the attendants out and erase other important figures cause apparently he's more of an attendant then the actual attendants are.
I dont remember it ever being confirmed he erased the multiverse. Anyway whats to say grand priest got erased even if the multiverse was erased zenos place is outside of it.
He did, there isn't another place for Future Trunks and Mai to go to in their original timeline. Even if they're universe is gone, if the remaining ones are still habitable, why not migrate there? Trunks isn't really a picky person so why not? Unless it's all gone. His realm is still part of the multiverse of that particular timeline it's just outside of those pairs. Honestly though, you're grasping at straws, anyone with basic deduction skills and/or having the common sense can tell Future Zen-Oh destroyed it all.
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Have you ever considered Zen-Oh can simply erase or destroy whatever he wants within the Dragon Ball multiverse? Even if he can control what can be destroyed or erased, he was present in the future timeline so this simply means he can withstand his own ability.
No no it dose not. He chose to erase future universe 7 not himself what is so hard about this to understand. He was not targeting himself. We do not know what he can and can not take if he can even be touched like that at all.
He was part of universe 7's future timeline by virtue of being physically present, so if he had intent on destroying all of that, he should've been gone too since after he did it he didn't go back to his palace outside all 12 universes and start over from scratch. His attendants and even the Grand Priest are gone in that timeline so that means he erased or destroyed everything that was left in that future timeline.
He destroyed future universe 7 not the multiverse. Hell if i remember correctly there are now 4 guards not 2 so they came with him. Again just because he was present when he erased FU7 dose not mean he was targeting himself. When freiza blows up planet Vegeta he was targeting the planet not himself so why wouldn't zeno a guy who can pick and choose what he wants erased be able to erase what around himself witg out targeting himself. His erasure ability is not a explosion it would not send any type of shockwave towards himself.
He destroyed the multiverse of that timeline, but even if the attendants didn't get erased, the Grand Priest would've been killed since he isn't present. The guy was literally floating in emptiness and if his attendants or even the Grand Priest didnt recover him, indicates that he was at least dead and so are the other Angels.
When was it ever said he destroyed the multiverse. Even if he did destroy the multiverse the same thing applies he was targeting the multiverse not himself not himself ill say it again not himself and the guards as well.
I bet but why destroy all but just your attendants? Why leave out the Grand Priest? That doesn't make sense that he'll only single the attendants out and erase other important figures cause apparently he's more of an attendant then the actual attendants are.
I dont remember it ever being confirmed he erased the multiverse. Anyway whats to say grand priest got erased even if the multiverse was erased zenos place is outside of it.
He did, there isn't another place for Future Trunks and Mai to go to in their original timeline. Even if they're universe is gone, if the remaining ones are still habitable, why not migrate there? Trunks isn't really a picky person so why not? Unless it's all gone. His realm is still part of the multiverse of that particular timeline it's just outside of those pairs. Honestly though, you're grasping at straws, anyone with basic deduction skills and/or having the common sense can tell Future Zen-Oh destroyed it all.
You are the one grasping. There is vary little solid evidence to suggest he destroyed them all. There was a whole other topic where this was discussed. But like ive said he chose what to destroy and he did not erase himself or his attendants. Chances are he did not erase anyone else at his place. And his place would still be present as ive said it is outside of the universes. Unless you want to say it is in one but what universe has that honor.
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Have you ever considered Zen-Oh can simply erase or destroy whatever he wants within the Dragon Ball multiverse? Even if he can control what can be destroyed or erased, he was present in the future timeline so this simply means he can withstand his own ability.
No no it dose not. He chose to erase future universe 7 not himself what is so hard about this to understand. He was not targeting himself. We do not know what he can and can not take if he can even be touched like that at all.
He was part of universe 7's future timeline by virtue of being physically present, so if he had intent on destroying all of that, he should've been gone too since after he did it he didn't go back to his palace outside all 12 universes and start over from scratch. His attendants and even the Grand Priest are gone in that timeline so that means he erased or destroyed everything that was left in that future timeline.
He destroyed future universe 7 not the multiverse. Hell if i remember correctly there are now 4 guards not 2 so they came with him. Again just because he was present when he erased FU7 dose not mean he was targeting himself. When freiza blows up planet Vegeta he was targeting the planet not himself so why wouldn't zeno a guy who can pick and choose what he wants erased be able to erase what around himself witg out targeting himself. His erasure ability is not a explosion it would not send any type of shockwave towards himself.
He destroyed the multiverse of that timeline, but even if the attendants didn't get erased, the Grand Priest would've been killed since he isn't present. The guy was literally floating in emptiness and if his attendants or even the Grand Priest didnt recover him, indicates that he was at least dead and so are the other Angels.
When was it ever said he destroyed the multiverse. Even if he did destroy the multiverse the same thing applies he was targeting the multiverse not himself not himself ill say it again not himself and the guards as well.
I bet but why destroy all but just your attendants? Why leave out the Grand Priest? That doesn't make sense that he'll only single the attendants out and erase other important figures cause apparently he's more of an attendant then the actual attendants are.
I dont remember it ever being confirmed he erased the multiverse. Anyway whats to say grand priest got erased even if the multiverse was erased zenos place is outside of it.
He did, there isn't another place for Future Trunks and Mai to go to in their original timeline. Even if they're universe is gone, if the remaining ones are still habitable, why not migrate there? Trunks isn't really a picky person so why not? Unless it's all gone. His realm is still part of the multiverse of that particular timeline it's just outside of those pairs. Honestly though, you're grasping at straws, anyone with basic deduction skills and/or having the common sense can tell Future Zen-Oh destroyed it all.
You are the one grasping. There is vary little solid evidence to suggest he destroyed them all. There was a whole other topic where this was discussed. But like ive said he chose what to destroy and he did not erase himself or his attendants. Chances are he did not erase anyone else at his place. And his place would still be present as ive said it is outside of the universes. Unless you want to say it is in one but what universe has that honor.
I bet. Believe what you want don't come to me when others throw it in your face.
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He was part of universe 7's future timeline by virtue of being physically present, so if he had intent on destroying all of that, he should've been gone too since after he did it he didn't go back to his palace outside all 12 universes and start over from scratch. His attendants and even the Grand Priest are gone in that timeline so that means he erased or destroyed everything that was left in that future timeline.
He destroyed future universe 7 not the multiverse. Hell if i remember correctly there are now 4 guards not 2 so they came with him. Again just because he was present when he erased FU7 dose not mean he was targeting himself. When freiza blows up planet Vegeta he was targeting the planet not himself so why wouldn't zeno a guy who can pick and choose what he wants erased be able to erase what around himself witg out targeting himself. His erasure ability is not a explosion it would not send any type of shockwave towards himself.
He destroyed the multiverse of that timeline, but even if the attendants didn't get erased, the Grand Priest would've been killed since he isn't present. The guy was literally floating in emptiness and if his attendants or even the Grand Priest didnt recover him, indicates that he was at least dead and so are the other Angels.
When was it ever said he destroyed the multiverse. Even if he did destroy the multiverse the same thing applies he was targeting the multiverse not himself not himself ill say it again not himself and the guards as well.
I bet but why destroy all but just your attendants? Why leave out the Grand Priest? That doesn't make sense that he'll only single the attendants out and erase other important figures cause apparently he's more of an attendant then the actual attendants are.
I dont remember it ever being confirmed he erased the multiverse. Anyway whats to say grand priest got erased even if the multiverse was erased zenos place is outside of it.
He did, there isn't another place for Future Trunks and Mai to go to in their original timeline. Even if they're universe is gone, if the remaining ones are still habitable, why not migrate there? Trunks isn't really a picky person so why not? Unless it's all gone. His realm is still part of the multiverse of that particular timeline it's just outside of those pairs. Honestly though, you're grasping at straws, anyone with basic deduction skills and/or having the common sense can tell Future Zen-Oh destroyed it all.
You are the one grasping. There is vary little solid evidence to suggest he destroyed them all. There was a whole other topic where this was discussed. But like ive said he chose what to destroy and he did not erase himself or his attendants. Chances are he did not erase anyone else at his place. And his place would still be present as ive said it is outside of the universes. Unless you want to say it is in one but what universe has that honor.
I bet. Believe what you want don't come to me when others throw it in your face.
I have yet to see anyone say he erased all universes so.... Ill be waiting.
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