Beerus vs Zeno (condition fight)

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Beerus vs Zeno (condition fight)
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* Yu Narukami	Aug 29 2017, 04:45 PM Post #31
Izanagi! Posts: 12,330 Group: Retired Staff Member #6,446 Joined: July 3, 2011 Gender Not Specified Country None	Solid Snake Aug 29 2017, 04:39 PM That's not magical resistance. He erased everything even on atomic level, and the fact he erased even the other world implies it to be astral as well so nothing outside of him can survive being erased like that. Lazer- If that was the case Goku and company could've just grabbed onto him when they assumed he was gonna erase the future? He'd start the erasure from just outside of himself, so that wouldn't work. And as for that not being magical resistance, I disagree. It doesn't act like any kind of erasure using any kind of source or technique we've seen before, so it's likely just purely magical erasure. Everyone also saw the shockwaves from Goku and Beerus' punches from the Otherworld, and SSJ3 Goku's power on Earth was reaching it, so being 'astral' is entirely irrelevant when we're talking about the powers we're at at this point.



+ Son-Goku	Aug 29 2017, 04:54 PM Post #32
孫悟空 Posts: 13,358 Group: Elite Member Member #12,886 Joined: January 24, 2016 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime DB/DBZ/DBS, Code Geass, Gintama, YYH, Death Note, and SAO. What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga Dragon Ball, Fairy Tail, and Naruto.	Notaka Aug 29 2017, 10:16 AM But can't he really see Dyspo speed ? I though he was able to react since he is stronger than the gods. I mean, It really doesn't matter how much stronger Beerus is gonna get. He will still get erased. Think of hakai, but a s***ton better and has multi universal range. @Dankness Flame: When did raw power beat hax? Maybe, but don't forget about his guards and the Grand Priest.
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Dankness Lava	Aug 29 2017, 05:29 PM Post #33
Dankness Forever Posts: 6,348 Group: Tha Dankness Member #9,197 Joined: March 16, 2013 Gender Not Specified Country None Favourite Anime Hajime no Ippo What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga One Piece	Notaka Aug 29 2017, 10:16 AM But can't he really see Dyspo speed ? I though he was able to react since he is stronger than the gods. I mean, It really doesn't matter how much stronger Beerus is gonna get. He will still get erased. Think of hakai, but a s***ton better and has multi universal range. @Dankness Flame: When did raw power beat hax? When Nappa was able to stop Chaozu's telekinesis. When Vegeta resisted Babidi. When Vegito fought Boo as candy. This is more iffy, but Grey Boo blowing away Fat Boo's candy beam.



StrenuousSpider	Aug 29 2017, 06:34 PM Post #34
Posts: 2,085 Group: Member Member #13,372 Joined: July 11, 2016 Gender Male Country United States	Solid Snake Aug 29 2017, 04:39 PM That's not magical resistance. He erased everything even on atomic level, and the fact he erased even the other world implies it to be astral as well so nothing outside of him can survive being erased like that. Lazer- If that was the case Goku and company could've just grabbed onto him when they assumed he was gonna erase the future? Why would he erase himself? Saying his durability is off the charts because he survived his own erasure is not solid evidence of his durability. As we see in the ToP he can specifically choose what he wants erased. He erased universe 9 and even the people there got erased. Universe 10 i believe was the next to go even the dudes locket was erased. So to treat his erasure ability like a explosion he can not control is just not true.



Notaka	Aug 29 2017, 10:55 PM Post #35
Always Wright Posts: 4,070 Group: Member Member #10,814 Joined: January 31, 2014 Country Algeria What Browser do you use? Waterfox Favourite Manga Dragon Ball, JoJo no kimyou na bouken, One piece, currently reading Shaman King	I mean yeah, Hax in dragon ball can be beaten by raw power, but these haxs doesn't compare to what zeno has. Telekinesis, turning your opponent into candy, stopping time is nowhere close to erasing someone. not even close. We don't even know if it's ki based or not, or if it has any limits. we can't assume that it can't work on someone with a higher ki. and speaking of ki, we don't know how much stronger Zeno is. He could literally be Beerus' powers multiplied by its own for all I care. Edited by Notaka, Aug 29 2017, 10:56 PM.
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+ Solid Snake	Aug 30 2017, 01:28 AM Post #36
滅Are you frightened? Posts: 8,961 Group: Elite Member Member #6,739 Joined: September 11, 2011 Gender Not Specified Favourite Anime Dragon ball, z, gt, Naruto & Shippuden, Bleach, Rosario + Vampire What Browser do you use? Kept you waiting huh? Favourite Manga Dragon Ball, Naruto, and Bleach	Yu Narukami Aug 29 2017, 04:45 PM Solid Snake Aug 29 2017, 04:39 PM That's not magical resistance. He erased everything even on atomic level, and the fact he erased even the other world implies it to be astral as well so nothing outside of him can survive being erased like that. Lazer- If that was the case Goku and company could've just grabbed onto him when they assumed he was gonna erase the future? He'd start the erasure from just outside of himself, so that wouldn't work. And as for that not being magical resistance, I disagree. It doesn't act like any kind of erasure using any kind of source or technique we've seen before, so it's likely just purely magical erasure. Everyone also saw the shockwaves from Goku and Beerus' punches from the Otherworld, and SSJ3 Goku's power on Earth was reaching it, so being 'astral' is entirely irrelevant when we're talking about the powers we're at at this point. The word erase is able to be used for destroy, and since that's what's pretty much the main thing that's given, they're the same. Even if it is magic, he still was able to survive his own doing. If a madman pulls the pin on a grenade and throws it in front of him, even if it's outside of him he shouldn't be hurt according to you (which isn't the case).
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StrenuousSpider	Aug 30 2017, 04:02 AM Post #37
Posts: 2,085 Group: Member Member #13,372 Joined: July 11, 2016 Gender Male Country United States	Solid Snake Aug 30 2017, 01:28 AM Yu Narukami Aug 29 2017, 04:45 PM Solid Snake Aug 29 2017, 04:39 PM That's not magical resistance. He erased everything even on atomic level, and the fact he erased even the other world implies it to be astral as well so nothing outside of him can survive being erased like that. Lazer- If that was the case Goku and company could've just grabbed onto him when they assumed he was gonna erase the future? He'd start the erasure from just outside of himself, so that wouldn't work. And as for that not being magical resistance, I disagree. It doesn't act like any kind of erasure using any kind of source or technique we've seen before, so it's likely just purely magical erasure. Everyone also saw the shockwaves from Goku and Beerus' punches from the Otherworld, and SSJ3 Goku's power on Earth was reaching it, so being 'astral' is entirely irrelevant when we're talking about the powers we're at at this point. The word erase is able to be used for destroy, and since that's what's pretty much the main thing that's given, they're the same. Even if it is magic, he still was able to survive his own doing. If a madman pulls the pin on a grenade and throws it in front of him, even if it's outside of him he shouldn't be hurt according to you (which isn't the case). A madman cant control the destruction of that explosion like zebo can with his erasure ability. If he could not control his power his threats woulf scare everyone and not the ones it targeted towards. For example when beerus and Quintela got into it. Beerus and Quintela where terrified while everyone else was perfectly fine. If it was like you said a madman and a grenade everyone should be worried not just beerus and Quintela.



+ Solid Snake	Aug 30 2017, 06:04 AM Post #38
滅Are you frightened? Posts: 8,961 Group: Elite Member Member #6,739 Joined: September 11, 2011 Gender Not Specified Favourite Anime Dragon ball, z, gt, Naruto & Shippuden, Bleach, Rosario + Vampire What Browser do you use? Kept you waiting huh? Favourite Manga Dragon Ball, Naruto, and Bleach	Have you ever considered Zen-Oh can simply erase or destroy whatever he wants within the Dragon Ball multiverse? Even if he can control what can be destroyed or erased, he was present in the future timeline so this simply means he can withstand his own ability.
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Dankness Lava	Aug 30 2017, 07:00 AM Post #39
Dankness Forever Posts: 6,348 Group: Tha Dankness Member #9,197 Joined: March 16, 2013 Gender Not Specified Country None Favourite Anime Hajime no Ippo What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga One Piece	Notaka Aug 29 2017, 10:55 PM I mean yeah, Hax in dragon ball can be beaten by raw power, but these haxs doesn't compare to what zeno has. Telekinesis, turning your opponent into candy, stopping time is nowhere close to erasing someone. not even close. Turning someone into candy is pretty close to erasing them in terms of hax. One is completely eliminating their molecular structure, the other is completely rearranging it.



StrenuousSpider	Aug 30 2017, 08:08 AM Post #40
Posts: 2,085 Group: Member Member #13,372 Joined: July 11, 2016 Gender Male Country United States	Solid Snake Aug 30 2017, 06:04 AM Have you ever considered Zen-Oh can simply erase or destroy whatever he wants within the Dragon Ball multiverse? Even if he can control what can be destroyed or erased, he was present in the future timeline so this simply means he can withstand his own ability. No no it dose not. He chose to erase future universe 7 not himself what is so hard about this to understand. He was not targeting himself. We do not know what he can and can not take if he can even be touched like that at all.



Notaka	Aug 30 2017, 09:46 AM Post #41
Always Wright Posts: 4,070 Group: Member Member #10,814 Joined: January 31, 2014 Country Algeria What Browser do you use? Waterfox Favourite Manga Dragon Ball, JoJo no kimyou na bouken, One piece, currently reading Shaman King	Dankness Flame Aug 30 2017, 07:00 AM Notaka Aug 29 2017, 10:55 PM I mean yeah, Hax in dragon ball can be beaten by raw power, but these haxs doesn't compare to what zeno has. Telekinesis, turning your opponent into candy, stopping time is nowhere close to erasing someone. not even close. Turning someone into candy is pretty close to erasing them in terms of hax. One is completely eliminating their molecular structure, the other is completely rearranging it. Not really. Turning someone into candy means that they could fight back, as in the case of Vegito's. Erasing on the other hand, the opponent is no more. They can't fight back because they won't exist anymore, it ignores durability and Zeno's unlike Beerus' seems to have multi universal range. Buu's candy beam is ridiculously small in range when compared to Zeno's erase. it's far too hax.
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+ Solid Snake	Aug 30 2017, 06:02 PM Post #42
滅Are you frightened? Posts: 8,961 Group: Elite Member Member #6,739 Joined: September 11, 2011 Gender Not Specified Favourite Anime Dragon ball, z, gt, Naruto & Shippuden, Bleach, Rosario + Vampire What Browser do you use? Kept you waiting huh? Favourite Manga Dragon Ball, Naruto, and Bleach	StrenuousSpider Aug 30 2017, 08:08 AM Solid Snake Aug 30 2017, 06:04 AM Have you ever considered Zen-Oh can simply erase or destroy whatever he wants within the Dragon Ball multiverse? Even if he can control what can be destroyed or erased, he was present in the future timeline so this simply means he can withstand his own ability. No no it dose not. He chose to erase future universe 7 not himself what is so hard about this to understand. He was not targeting himself. We do not know what he can and can not take if he can even be touched like that at all. He was part of universe 7's future timeline by virtue of being physically present, so if he had intent on destroying all of that, he should've been gone too since after he did it he didn't go back to his palace outside all 12 universes and start over from scratch. His attendants and even the Grand Priest are gone in that timeline so that means he erased or destroyed everything that was left in that future timeline.
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Darker	Aug 30 2017, 06:11 PM Post #43
The Lord of the Dark Posts: 15,356 Group: Member Member #11,968 Joined: January 7, 2015 Gender Male Country Spain	Notaka Aug 29 2017, 10:16 AM But can't he really see Dyspo speed ? I though he was able to react since he is stronger than the gods. Being stronger =/= Being faster
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+ Solid Snake	Aug 30 2017, 07:38 PM Post #44
滅Are you frightened? Posts: 8,961 Group: Elite Member Member #6,739 Joined: September 11, 2011 Gender Not Specified Favourite Anime Dragon ball, z, gt, Naruto & Shippuden, Bleach, Rosario + Vampire What Browser do you use? Kept you waiting huh? Favourite Manga Dragon Ball, Naruto, and Bleach	Darker Aug 30 2017, 06:11 PM Notaka Aug 29 2017, 10:16 AM But can't he really see Dyspo speed ? I though he was able to react since he is stronger than the gods. Being stronger =/= Being faster In a general sense, sometimes it does means that.
	Shinnozou tomete kureru! ~ Evil Ryu SSJG and SSJ4 Goku Sig SUPER THANKS CELL Dragon Ball: Ultimate Road Story http://dbzf.co.uk/topic/8434874/1/#new Naruto and Goku's Adventure Story http://dbzf.co.uk/topic/8435708/1/#new


Notaka	Aug 30 2017, 08:22 PM Post #45
Always Wright Posts: 4,070 Group: Member Member #10,814 Joined: January 31, 2014 Country Algeria What Browser do you use? Waterfox Favourite Manga Dragon Ball, JoJo no kimyou na bouken, One piece, currently reading Shaman King	Darker Aug 30 2017, 06:11 PM Notaka Aug 29 2017, 10:16 AM But can't he really see Dyspo speed ? I though he was able to react since he is stronger than the gods. Being stronger =/= Being faster Except in DBZ speed correlates with power, the stronger you get the faster you get and the more durable you get. Didn't Zeno not have any trouble following Hit and Goku during their fight ?
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