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Beerus vs Zeno (condition fight)
Topic Started: Aug 27 2017, 07:02 AM (1,500 Views)
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Aug 28 2017, 11:37 PM
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I'd say Beerus decimates him. We've seen that Zeno needs a bit of build up for any kind of erasure magic, so that'd give Beerus plenty of time to kill him in any number of ways.
Beerus isn't doing anything to Zen-Oh at all.
Really? Any evidence of that? All we've heard is that Zeno is stronger than all of the current GoDs and Angels by a large margin. Other than that, nothing.
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We don't even know that he's stronger.
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Yeah, the sheer fact they're all scared of him is enough proof. He survived his own multiverse erasure, there's nothing Beerus or any character can do that will change that unless it's retconned or changed.
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There is a big fact people are forgetting. If zeno dose not have some form of immortality then why has no one killed him yet. If he is so weak but has insane magical abilities then why are they scared if they could just blits kill him. There is something to zeno that we do not know yet.
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Because he can literally blink things out of existence, that's why.
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Because he can literally blink things out of existence, that's why.
If he cant see dypso there is literally nothing stopping someone from just speed blitzing him to death absolutely nothing. Being able yo destroy anything wont save you from getting your head torn off before you can even react.
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But can't he really see Dyspo speed ? I though he was able to react since he is stronger than the gods.

I mean, It really doesn't matter how much stronger Beerus is gonna get.
He will still get erased. Think of hakai, but a s***ton better and has multi universal range.

@Dankness Flame: When did raw power beat hax?
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He's feared because of his erasure abilities. So taking those away and saying, he's as fearful as made to be but with fighting doesn't make any sense. How is it possible to gauge that?
I think some characters (like Goku and Vegeta) may think Zeno is as powerful in fighting as he in erasing things.
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When did raw power beat hax?

Guldo and Vegeta comes to mind. Not exactly raw power so much as it was a bit of dirty play, but dirty play is easy when Zeno can't see him to prepare a defense.
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To be fair, he has the guards for a reason. Now that I think about it, an all-powerful being in all regards would not be afraid to go it alone, Zeno actually has guards at his side at all times.
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When did raw power beat hax?

Guldo and Vegeta comes to mind. Not exactly raw power so much as it was a bit of dirty play, but dirty play is easy when Zeno can't see him to prepare a defense.
That's fair. Though Vegeta attacked Guldo by surprise.

Krillin and Gohan were both stronger than Guldo yet they couldn't do anything to him.
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When did raw power beat hax?

Guldo and Vegeta comes to mind. Not exactly raw power so much as it was a bit of dirty play, but dirty play is easy when Zeno can't see him to prepare a defense.
That's fair. Though Vegeta attacked Guldo by surprise.

Krillin and Gohan were both stronger than Guldo yet they couldn't do anything to him.
Hax only works in some instances but not all. Dragon Ball generally implies that most times, if you're stronger than your opponent, then you can negate their hax but this isn't the case all the time.

General- Even if he can't see, how's he gonna hurt Zen-Oh? The guys durability is off the charts.
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How is Zeno's durability off the charts? Even if he survived his own erasure magic (and we have no evidence to suggest he'd effected by it), that's magical resistance, not physical or Ki resistance.
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What durability does he have anyway? He didn't blast himself, he destroyed everything around him in a wave originating from him. It's no more a showing of durability than Cells barrier is, it's just an outward erasure.
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That's not magical resistance. He erased everything even on atomic level, and the fact he erased even the other world implies it to be astral as well so nothing outside of him can survive being erased like that.

Lazer- If that was the case Goku and company could've just grabbed onto him when they assumed he was gonna erase the future?
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