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Golden frieza vs ultimate gohan.
Topic Started: Aug 26 2017, 04:20 PM (1,449 Views)
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Which Golden Freeza is this exactly? The one featured during the RoF arc or the one in current? If the former, Gohan should have little trouble with Freeza.

If the latter, we are given the impression that not only is Freeza at a higher level than the SSJB's, but he also does not suffer from any sort of stamina drain, it is near as calm as his base state, it is his new state of existence as it were. So Gohan gets slaughtered, not due to stamina drain, but simply because Freeza has the same upside that Gohan has, but simply has far more power.
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If we use the feats that we had in the gathering of warriors then Gohan probably wins. Frieza was dead even with Goku, while Goku used Kaioken against Gohan.
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I have a lot of doubts about Gohan's current power, but we'll see. For now, I'm reluctantly going with Freeza.
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The thing is that frieza could one punch goku and the others stated that he is on par with goku makes me think that frieza is actually 100% ssj blue goku or more since frieza remained in golden while goku reverted back to base after that punch


As for gohan . Goku transformed because he was told to. There were nothing that would imply that gohan was anywhere near 100 % ssj blue.

Goku literally one punched him and blitzed him just using kaioken 2

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Gohan is in the leagues of 17 possibly a bit stronger but they are both fodder to the likes of vegeta goku and frieza . These hree are the top dogs of universe 7
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RoF Frieza might win but it's unlikely, given that Gohan was somewhat able to fight evenly against a much stronger SSJB Goku.
If they were equal, Frieza would eventually tire off and Gohan would win.Frieza might win only via planetary destruction.

Current arc Frieza wins though. He's as strong as current SSJB Goku, maybe stronger or at least somewhat close.
Him being dead and having mastered his Golden Form, he wouldn't suffer any stamina issues.
Frieza wins.
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I have Ultimate Gohan on par with Super Saiyan Blue Goku. Goku didn't need or didn't even want to use Kaioken against him but while against Gohan, he tapped into it and used it to one shot him whilst he couldn't even do that with regular Blue. Gohan didn't get straight KO'd either unlike Frieza, I have Gohan edging it out in my opinion. 5/10.
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Episode 104 made me doubt Gohan's power, however, I'm still on the side of him being on par with SSJB Goku, as is Golden Freeza.

By virtue of being Freeza, he would beat Gohan.
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I'm going with Gohan. though in a very difficult battle.
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RoF Frieza might win but it's unlikely, given that Gohan was somewhat able to fight evenly against a much stronger SSJB Goku.
If they were equal, Frieza would eventually tire off and Gohan would win.Frieza might win only via planetary destruction.

Current arc Frieza wins though. He's as strong as current SSJB Goku, maybe stronger or at least somewhat close.
Him being dead and having mastered his Golden Form, he wouldn't suffer any stamina issues.
Frieza wins.
Goku is not that much stronger than his rof self

Remember frieza trained nothing in hell. He just perfected hisgolden form by some piccolo training

For me rof frieza's max power shouls be equal to top frieza's max power the thing is that while both of them were lets say 100 when golden form activates but after a little time rof frieza was 60 and top frieza was 95

At least thats how i see it

Remember the mssj ssj thing. The mssj doesnt give you more boost. It just allows to use less stamina while being transformed.

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Aug 26 2017, 06:59 PM
RoF Frieza might win but it's unlikely, given that Gohan was somewhat able to fight evenly against a much stronger SSJB Goku.
If they were equal, Frieza would eventually tire off and Gohan would win.Frieza might win only via planetary destruction.

Current arc Frieza wins though. He's as strong as current SSJB Goku, maybe stronger or at least somewhat close.
Him being dead and having mastered his Golden Form, he wouldn't suffer any stamina issues.
Frieza wins.
Goku is not that much stronger than his rof self

Remember frieza trained nothing in hell. He just perfected hisgolden form by some piccolo training

For me rof frieza's max power shouls be equal to top frieza's max power the thing is that while both of them were lets say 100 when golden form activates but after a little time rof frieza was 60 and top frieza was 95

At least thats how i see it

Remember the mssj ssj thing. The mssj doesnt give you more boost. It just allows to use less stamina while being transformed.
He's not? How so? He's shown to somewhat hang with Merged Zamasu's suppressed state and with Kaioken x10, able to inflict damage on him. Then later fights a stronger Hit without needing Kaioken x10 again.

Frieza envisioned Goku's base to comparable to his RoF saga Blue level meaning Frieza AT LEAST expected an 2x increase in power since his base was already SSJG (BoG saga) level and Blue being 2x SSJG (if we were to stack it on his SSJG form at the time) already makes his base even more stronger than it really is:

SSJG Goku (BoG): 14 million

Goku (RoF): 17.5 million
-SSJ: 875 million
--SSJ2: 1.7 billion
---SSJ3: 7 billion
----SSJG: 245 trillion
-----SSJB: 490 trillion

Golden Frieza: 563 trillion

So if Frieza really thought his Golden Evolution would be enough to beat base Goku, he'd have to get over 28 million times stronger at best with my numbers. You severely underestimated Goku.
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Freeza also stated he got "stronger," not just perfected his Golden form.
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Both ROF and TOP Golden Freeza stomp easily. I don't have Gohan anywhere near that kind of power, I don't think either Gohan or 17 are anywhere close to the Goku/Vegeta/Freeza tier.
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Hate to admit it but Gohan. And I think Gohan will be the one to eliminate Toppo.
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Freeza. He was literally stated to be equal to Goku, in outside material relating to the fighters, whose the strongest fighter in U7.
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