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Who would you have made the main antagonist? Of the Universal Survival Arc?
Topic Started: Aug 17 2017, 02:35 AM (2,123 Views)
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I've seen a lot of people criticize Jiren for having no actual personality of his own, having a bland design, and for essentially doing next to nothing in the entire ToP itself. But, if you could who would you have made the main antagonist/antagonists of the Universal Survival Arc?
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I was hoping Goku would be the main antagonist this arc. I was really hoping to see him constantly make stupid mistakes that put his universe at risk and for Vegeta or Gohan fight him to prevent some kind of issue. I wanted the arc to show Goku taking his love for fighting so far that even Vegeta thought it was too self destructive or damaging to their universe.
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"I am the bone of my sword."

The main antagonists should have been the Angels or at the very least the Grand Priest, manipulating the gods and Zeno for their own personal gain. Jiren and even Freeza are really just obstacles that will ultimately need to be passed but are not the majority focus. Zeno, while an annoying creature, can't really be described as the villains but ultimately we will have to deal with their naivety and power.

Goku's just an idiot who needs to be put down really.

The overall final conflict would be dealing with Zeno in someway. It's clear that such power does not belong in the hands of children. In the end, I feel that Zeno will be the final obstacle but not necessarily the main one (Assuming something doesn't happen to Zeno before). I'm still kind of expecting something from the Grand Priest and perhaps a few of the Angels. Jiren is just an obstacle that will be surpassed. Freeza might play a slightly larger part as he takes center stage for a bit but will ultimately be pressed aside as another obstacle.
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The lack of personality wouldn't be a problem if he at least looked cool and did cool s***. Look at Broli. He looks cool and does cool s***, and his character is as shallow as they come, yet he's one of the more popular characters. Jiren's design is unappealing, and arguably lazy, and the only things he's done in this tournament is dodge bricks and down Kale. I'm sure he'll do more, but he still has the unappealing design going against him.
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1st make the antagonist as an antagonist. Not lunatic joker with garbage design & horrible voice which plagues 99% of Super baddies thus far except Black/Zamasu

Just whats so difficult to grasp TOEI? Dude gave some of THE deadliest baddies ever seen in anime history be it the DB,Z, GT trilogies, 20+ movies & ovas combined.

Dat was 20 years back. When most shows were struggling to come up with even presentable heroes, TOEI made dopest baddies with futuristic & fantasy abilities.

Like I said, focus on design, followed by characterization & finally feats.
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Aug 17 2017, 02:44 AM
I was hoping Goku would be the main antagonist this arc. I was really hoping to see him constantly make stupid mistakes that put his universe at risk and for Vegeta or Gohan fight him to prevent some kind of issue. I wanted the arc to show Goku taking his love for fighting so far that even Vegeta thought it was too self destructive or damaging to their universe.
Yes! Absolutely agree! It looked like they were making a really bold move and a comment on Goku's reckless personality but no...they chickened out and now Goku is accidentally the saviour of one universe...spare me. I was looking forward to him realising what he'd done and stepping up. Seeing Vegeta or Gohan reign him in would have been so satisfying.

Goku is my second favourite character but I want to see him grow or a different plotline/hero or what was the point in bringing Dragon Ball back at all?
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I would have made Toppo the main antagonist, but not the "villain." He'd be fighting for his universe and for justice, and he would view Goku as the antithesis to everything he and the Pride Troopers stood for after their exhibition match. He'd be viewed as the main obstacle for Universe 7 surviving, but to him and basically every other universe that got dragged into the tournament, he'd be viewed as a hero and idol. "Every villain is the hero of their own story," basically, except even to us as the audience, Toppo would seem like the more sympathetic and stoic character between him and Goku.
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