Vegeta, Goku, Trunks vs. Future 17, Future 18, Android 20

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Vegeta, Goku, Trunks vs. Future 17, Future 18, Android 20
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+ Pyrus	Aug 12 2017, 07:14 PM Post #1
Posts: 39,342 Group: Legend Member #5,088 Joined: August 1, 2010 Gender Not Specified Country Chile	The Saiyans are willing to work together as a team to fight to the androids. Which team wins? Android 20 cannot absorb ki.
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ahill1	Aug 12 2017, 07:21 PM Post #2
Posts: 759 Group: Member Member #12,438 Joined: June 29, 2015 Gender Not Specified Country Egypt Favourite Anime HxH What Browser do you use? the best Favourite Manga HxH	Vegeta was implied to be at future #18's strength by none other than Trunks, making #17 significantly more powerful than Goku SSJ, for example. The adition of Trunks would obviously help the Saiyans a lot, but I think adding #20 will make the twins' chances of winning more probable than vice-versa, considering they could use the old geezer as a way to prevent the Saiyans from using chi blasts attacks.



+ Son-Goku	Aug 12 2017, 08:06 PM Post #3
孫悟空 Posts: 13,358 Group: Elite Member Member #12,886 Joined: January 24, 2016 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime DB/DBZ/DBS, Code Geass, Gintama, YYH, Death Note, and SAO. What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga Dragon Ball, Fairy Tail, and Naruto.	#18 would be able to be brought down by Vegeta after a long battle. Trunks could take down #20 no sweat. Then the three of them could fight #17, Vegeta at this point wouldn't be able to do too much. But Goku and Trunks together could win.
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RealSociedad	Aug 12 2017, 11:46 PM Post #4
Posts: 1,352 Group: Member Member #9,575 Joined: June 4, 2013 Favourite Anime Dragonball Z What Browser do you use? Mozilla Firefox Favourite Manga Dragonball Z	The SSJ's lose here, unless Goku gets his 'mainhero' hax, like suddenly transforming to SSJ2 or using a huge spirit bomb for example. Future #18 is already around the most powerful of the 3, Vegeta. And I saw how the androids work together. Not to mention their infinite stamina and android barrier. Adding 17 with 18 will be too much too handle. The SSJ's will get blown away. Edited by RealSociedad, Aug 12 2017, 11:48 PM.



Thiln	Aug 13 2017, 08:20 PM Post #5
Posts: 2,481 Group: Member Member #12,166 Joined: March 23, 2015 Gender Male Favourite Anime Dragon Ball, Attack on Titan What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga Hokuto no Ken, Berserk, Dragon Ball, Rurouni Kenshin, Attack on Titan, Kuroshitsuji	The Saiyans could potentially win if they were willing to follow Goku's lead in having him use Taiyoken then proceed to use all of their most powerful blasts on #17. Being sensorily impaired is going to hinder him in defending against any attacks. Two of them know the Kienzan attack as well. Alternatively, what's to stop Vegeta from using Kitanai Hanabi to burst either of the more full body organic cyborgs' eyes? Destroy the eyes and the occipital lobe. #17 and #18 can't read energy signatures so they'll be left vulnerable to attacks from any one of the Saiyans. #20 can be dealt with by any of the three.



+ Emmeth	Aug 13 2017, 08:27 PM Post #6
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Slifer	Aug 13 2017, 08:45 PM Post #7
Posts: 3,488 Group: Member Member #10,141 Joined: September 7, 2013	20 should go down pretty quickly. Trunks can handle him while the other two fight 17 and 18. Once Trunks rejoins then the twins get overwhelmed. If all else fails then IT Kamehameha for a clean sweep.



EMIYA	Aug 13 2017, 11:01 PM Post #8
"I am the bone of my sword." Posts: 11,326 Group: Super Moderator Member #8,292 Joined: September 16, 2012 Gender Not Specified Country United States Favourite Anime Clannad, Shinsekai Yori What Browser do you use? Mozilla Firefox Favourite Manga Hellsing, Elfen Lied, Trigun Maximum	Honestly, I think the Saiyans are going to turn the Cyborgs into scrap metal. No. 20 is basically a non-factor and anyone of the Saiyans could smack him out before the fight even starts, that just leaves the Future Cyborgs, people who Trunks has admitted he could fight fairly well by himself when compared to the Present Cyborgs. If Vegeta>Goku>Trunks then really, I feel Vegeta himself is at least on par, if arguably not stronger than No. 17. Vegeta could probably smack No. 18 down like he did Dodoria that one day, Goku could be relatively on par while Trunks would probably hold the overall disadvantage. Either way, No. 18's going down and while Trunks may eventually get taken out of fight, I guarantee both Goku and Vegeta will be there and the'll promptly tear his a*** apart. My gaps are pretty much. Vegeta>~17>~Goku~18>~Trunks>>>>>>>>>>>the waste of space that is 20.



Dan The Commentator	Aug 20 2017, 06:56 PM Post #9
Posts: 165 Group: Member Member #13,926 Joined: July 5, 2017 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Princess Mononoke, Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood, Gurren Lagann, and Baccano! What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga Dragon Ball and One Piece	Absorbing energy is the only possible contribution that No.20 could've made. Take that away and he might as well not even be there. Anyways, Trunks' shock over how it seemed Vegeta could stand toe-to-toe with No.18 (before it became apparent that they were much stronger than his timelines androids), and how Trunks said that even he could put up a decent fight against his androids, leads me to believe that the future set wasn't much stronger than the three Super Saiyans from the Androids arc. The Super Saiyan gang has an advantage in numbers and techniques, but the android twins have an edge in endurance. The Saiyans have a decent shot at winning, but only if they work to end the fight as soon as possible, before the difference in stamina becomes apparent. I'd say the odds are fifty-fifty.



SuperSaiyanGodGogeta	Aug 20 2017, 07:23 PM Post #10
Posts: 1,228 Group: Member Member #11,951 Joined: December 29, 2014 Gender Male	Goku as of super was stated to have been capable of defeating present 17 during the Android arc by 17 himself. Goku would demolish any of the individual androids. 20 is irrelevant and would get taken out by generic ki blasts. Trunks and vegeta could take out future 18 together and Goku could beat future 17 solo.
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Notaka	Aug 21 2017, 08:55 PM Post #11
Always Wright Posts: 4,070 Group: Member Member #10,814 Joined: January 31, 2014 Country Algeria What Browser do you use? Waterfox Favourite Manga Dragon Ball, JoJo no kimyou na bouken, One piece, currently reading Shaman King	Android 20 isn't a threat due to him not being able to absorb KI. Trunks could finish him pretty quickly, while SSJ Goku and SSJ Vegeta fend off against the twins. However, Gero having no sensible ki would mean that he could go in hiding, forcing one of the saiyans to look out for him, leaving the remaining two to fend off against 17 and 18. Now, the twins have an enormous advantage due to having infinite KI, not to mention that individually they are as strong, if not stronger than a super saiyan. Their team is one of the best in DBZ, being synchronized et cetera in their moves. So all in all, it really plays down to how quick is gero eliminated. They can't let him get away while they're busy fending off 17 and 18, and should one of them pursue him, the remaining two saiyans are going to be killed by the twins due to them being as strong, with having infinite ki and by extension limitless stamina. The android team wins IMO
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Axl	Aug 21 2017, 09:15 PM Post #12
Posts: 161 Group: Member Member #13,894 Joined: June 7, 2017 Gender Male Country United States	Excluding Super The Android Team wins. Including Super The Saiyan team only has a small chance of winning since Goku (pre-ROSAT) or 'Expected Goku' was approximately equal to Present #17. But, I feel that the androids, excluding #20, could still win since they have a huge stamina advantage in general. Maybe if Goku had the Mastered Super Sayian form their chances of winning would be better.
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+ Pyrus	Aug 21 2017, 09:28 PM Post #13
Posts: 39,342 Group: Legend Member #5,088 Joined: August 1, 2010 Gender Not Specified Country Chile	I don't put much stock into that exchange between #17 and Goku. They never encountered each other during that time period, so #17 wouldn't have the necessary information to make a valid assessment (since he seemed to disappear right after Cell's defeat and only barely kept in contact with #18), and Goku was uncertain too. At best, it's inconclusive. At worst, we go by what was stated and shown during the actual time period in question.
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Axl	Aug 21 2017, 10:24 PM Post #14
Posts: 161 Group: Member Member #13,894 Joined: June 7, 2017 Gender Male Country United States	I kinda of agree with what you think. But, at the same time, I think that the exchange between #17 and Goku was more like the Author (or in this case Toei) answering a popular question in the android arc i.e What would have happened if Goku fought against Android 17 or 18? Or would Goku fighting either 17 or 18 instead of Vegeta make any difference? That's literally one of the first few questions a lot of casual watchers would have when they watch the android arc or DBZ for the first time. Now, I am not much of a manga person (unless of course it is an ecchi type), but, I suppose we can also wait for the manga version and see how the exchange turns out over there (assuming they have one there). Edited by Axl, Aug 21 2017, 10:24 PM.
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Slifer	Aug 21 2017, 10:32 PM Post #15
Posts: 3,488 Group: Member Member #10,141 Joined: September 7, 2013	Quote: What would have happened if Goku fought against Android 17 or 18 The Android arc pretty much covered it. Vegeta was heavily implied to be somewhat stronger than Goku and 18 kicked Vegeta's a*. 17 was stronger than 18, so that should logically equate to 17 kicking Goku's a*. Also Vegeta outright admitted inferiority to Piccolo post-Kami fusion, whom was equal to 17.



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