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| + Son-Goku | Aug 11 2017, 02:27 PM Post #1 |
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Need may not be the right choice for a word, perhaps is it better for children to grow up being raised by both a father and a mother? |
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| * Mitas | Aug 11 2017, 02:54 PM Post #2 |
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I'm glad you reneged on using 'need' because children don't need that. There are a lot of ways to properly raise a child (there are also a lot of ways to improperly raise one too). I think the ideal environment for raising child is two parents in a stable relationship. Not necessarily a mother and father; two same-sex parents works too. I don't think there's any argument to be had that a single parent is more beneficial than two parents in a stable relationship (obviously one loving parent is better than two inadequate ones). But single parents can raise kids properly too. One thing I will add is that I do think that it's somewhat important for children to have role models of both sexes in their lives and having two parents of opposite sex has the advantage there. It's not something that should rule out same-sex parents (like I said, I have no problem with that), but it is an advantage in raising the child. |
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Aug 11 2017, 02:58 PM Post #3 |
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"Better" is an interesting choice of diction. Better than what, exactly? I don't think it's as simple as saying "having both a father and mother is best." Nothing is ever that simple. What if the father is a drug addict? In that case, wouldn't it actually be better to be raised by a single mother? I get what you're saying, and I don't think it's wrong to assume that it would make a child well-rounded to have both male and female figures in his/her life, but that could come from anywhere--aunts, uncles, grandparents, close family friends, etc. An ideal scenario would be raising a child around a variety of different people: straight people, gay people, black people, white people, men, women, religious people, non-religious people... So no, to answer your question it's never just as simple as "having both a father and mother is best." Having a happy, healthy family and getting the proper access to a variety of different life experiences and perspectives is best, regardless of each individual situation. You can get that just as easily from two gay men or a single mother provided they have a strong support system. |
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| Strawberry | Aug 12 2017, 03:29 AM Post #4 |
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I echo everything OFG said. I'll add that there was even a 25-year study developed by UCLA's Williams Institute and released a few years ago that concluded that children raised in lesbian households actually displayed more emotional stability, were more psychologically well-adjusted and had fewer behavioral problems than their peers being raised in conventional households. I believe one of the arguments backing up those results was the fact that lesbian couples generally present less power assertion and more parental involvement, which has been shown to be associated with healthier psychological adjustment. That's not to say a straight couple, a male gay couple, a single parent or other types of parental figures can't raise children just as well, so long as they provide enough love, affection and emotional support. Can I ask for your stance on this topic, Greenough? Or why did you decide to ask? |
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| Wolf | Aug 12 2017, 04:50 AM Post #5 |
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It's tough to say. I agree with what's been posted so far. It really is a situational thing. There's no real answer as to if children need them. However, I do believe that it's important to have those adult influences in a child's life. When I say that, I don't mean drug attic, abusive, and/or bad people in general, I mean just your average person. Children should have positive adult role models in their lives while growing up is probably the best way for me to put it. People who can share insight of the world around them and be able to break it down for them to understand. Helping a child grow his mind and perception of life is important in helping them realize what being an adult is about. Edited by Wolf, Aug 12 2017, 04:50 AM.
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| Bad User | Aug 12 2017, 07:10 AM Post #6 |
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Yes. Not necessarily a father and a mother. May it be a woman and a man, a man and a man, or a woman and a woman, their relationship must be stable, healthy and caring. My argument is that children must live in an environment and learn about commitment, bounding, compromise and other aspects that link two people together. It's teaching them that stuff not only through their perception of what their parents' relationship looks like, but it's also implementing in their subconscious mind what emotional needs they have and what they seek themselves in their own relationships. On the other hand, living in a disfunctional family: one parent is good - the other parent sucks, both parents suck, only one parent around (monoparental families), or no parents around... can cause the child to most likely develop (99%..taking a rough guess) commitment issues. And having a relative or more, that show you affection but they are still not parental figures is simply not enough. I am also talking from my very own experience, so I may be biased on this matter. Commitment issues can be more or less obvious and manifest through different forms, depending on many factors. I think there are some patterns about that. And they are only the tip of the iceberg, not having a healthy familial environment can cause people to develop personality disorders and even other more serious issues. But I'm no shrink to tell exactly. Edited by Bad User, Aug 12 2017, 12:07 PM.
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| + Steve | Aug 12 2017, 11:25 AM Post #7 |
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Just to fight for the other side, I can see how at this stage in society that it could go sour for someone to have either two dads or two mothers, purely because the world hasn't accepted that yet. Even if the parents are the best in the world all the bullying they'd receive over that could be damaging. But then, you can be bullied over anything. Otherwise there can be a lot of issues with being raised by a single parent, never knowing your mother or father can bother people a lot having the parental connection between two people is often important but that totally depends on the case. Personally it doesn't bother me, talk to my biological father like once a year, on Facebook. He wasn't present most of my childhoodand that's fine. But I see why that can damage a lot of people, especially if the one parent they were left with isn't a shining beacon of greatness. Lot of resentment issues there. Not everyone is left with a fantastic parent and loving family to go with that. All in all, pretty much entirely situational but there can be many issues with any family setup. |
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| Cal | Aug 12 2017, 12:58 PM Post #8 |
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Yes, I think so. I think there is still value in being brought up in a traditional family unit when possible. There are many studies including recent ones indicating that children raised in homes with traditional values in accordance with the biological mother and biological father excel beyond other children in cognitive and social progress. This doesn't make it a necessity, just my opinion. |
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| + Emmeth | Aug 12 2017, 01:16 PM Post #9 |
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It's situational at best. For some children, yes, it is better to have a father and a mother. For others, due to personal problems on either father or mother's part (or both), it's better for them to be raised by however it best suited for it. In some cases children are solely raised by grandparents because of deadbeat parents, and those children can be raised into reasonable and logical adults. In other cases foster homes can be the best option aswell. The only thing I'm against, and again it's situational, is being raised at boarding schools or something similar. I think it's very rare that children have a good childhood at a place like that. |
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| Strawberry | Aug 12 2017, 01:46 PM Post #10 |
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Which studies are those that indicate children raised in homes with traditional values excel beyond other children in cognitive progress? I've studied this subject in university and difference in cognitive development was always one of the first arguments that got refuted by present studies -- the debate always seemed to be more centered around emotional development. When I had to do research for my thesis I believe there was a total of 76 studies with 71 of them concluding there was no significant difference between straight parents and same-sex parents in raising children, 1 study actually concluding lesbian couples tended to deliver better results in psychological adjustment (see my first post), and only 4 studies saying there were more benefits for children to be raised by straight parents. The latter were since dismissed since it was confirmed there was political agenda involved, including funding from anti-gay organizations such as The Witherspoon Institute -- one of those studies conducted by Mark Regnerus was actually confirmed to contain artificially inflated numbers and had to be audited for breaking the ethical code of scientific research. In the USA every major medical organization that holds a position on the matter says that same-sex parents raise children with the same level of success as straight parents, including American Academy of Family Physicians, American Academy of Child and Adolescent Psychiatry, American Medical Association, American Psychiatric Association and Child Welfare League of America. |
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| Cal | Aug 12 2017, 02:06 PM Post #11 |
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I'm not really trying to compare the success in relation to a lesbian or gay couple. More based on when a child has a mother and a father in comparison as to when he/she doesn't (not when one gender is replaced by another). I'm referencing studies from places like the London School of Economics.
The research specifically studies families and children and measures cognitive/social progress through various ages. http://www.lse.ac.uk/News/Latest-news-from-LSE/2017/03-March-2017/Children-born-to-single-mothers-benefit-when-biological-father-joins-family You seem interested, I'm sure you could get your hands on the actual research through a scholar article search. --- I have no doubt that what you're saying and referencing is true, but I would argue that depending on what basis your thesis was created (gender studies, women studies, etc) you would find different results (same as me). |
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| Strawberry | Aug 12 2017, 02:16 PM Post #12 |
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That is a different angle than the one I thought you were approaching when you mentioned traditional values. That said, the articule says the study is specifically aimed at children whose parents were not living together when they are born, rather than children of all single parents. I think it shouldn't be hard for anybody to accept that parents living together and staying together upon their child's birth can only be beneficial on all levels, provided they're in a healthy relationship. Thanks for the link, I will indeed research this out of personal interest. |
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| Cid | Aug 13 2017, 04:04 AM Post #13 |
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Having a stable father and a mother is usually going to result in a better childhood. My father left me at a young age, I started using drugs as a result, but I learned from my mistakes and turned out just fine. Kids don't need a father and a mother, but it certainly plays a very, very important role in a child's life. |
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| Snow | Aug 16 2017, 04:20 AM Post #14 |
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This really isn't a simple question because I think it really depends on the certain parents. If you have adad but he neglects you or or is never there for you, you might as well be in a similar position as someone who doesn't have a dad. You may have people in your life that become parent figures and that can be just as important |
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| ThisIsMyDebatingFace | Aug 24 2017, 10:25 PM Post #15 |
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Not really, just need a stable home life, a child can get role modals from all areas of life. If a single parent can provide a stable and loving home, that's all the child will need growing up. Of course, they also need someone there for them when things go wrong, but I'll count that in loving. That's assuming you are born into a single parent environment, if you experience a breakup of the family home while growing up, that could be tough, but then, that isn't stable. As our esteemed Prime Minister liked to say, strong and stable. Edited by ThisIsMyDebatingFace, Aug 24 2017, 10:25 PM.
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