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Why can't SSJG be stacked with SSJ2/3?
Topic Started: Aug 3 2017, 06:28 PM (2,012 Views)
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I'm not asking for it. There are already enough transformations. But for an in-universe (in-multiverse?) explanation, why can't SSJG be stacked with SSJ2/3?

I understand the idea that SSJ1 is the "most efficient" form of SSJ, as it doesn't massively drain stamina. But if that's the case, why does Goku use SSJ2/3 on occasion? He even advised Caulifla to master SSJ2 before attempting SSJ3. Why did he not just advise her to stick with SSJ1?

SSJB3 would be very difficult to sustain. But if you're intending to finish off an opponent quickly, why not do it?
Unless the fight lasts a very long time, it generally makes sense to use the higher SSJ forms. So why can't blue be stacked with these higher forms?
It could also be argued that Kaioken is more strenuous than SSJ3.
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Because Super Saiyan Blue is just Super Saiyan God being channeled through Super Saiyan. At least, that's how I understand it. He might be able to channel God through his other forms, but it realistically wouldn't make him any stronger, honestly it'd probably only serve as hindrance considering 2's stamina is probably worse than standard Super Saiyan's, and 3 is of course really bad.
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Yeah the stamina would likely be way too much to handle. There's no point for Goku either seeing as how he has Kaioken x10 which should be stronger than a hypothetical Super Saiyan Blue 3.
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Agree with Greenough. Kaioken's amplifier bolsters Goku's power well past the static plateau of a potential SSJG/B3. If anyone was going to attempt to put such a theory to the test it would be Vegeta. Using high degrees of Super Saiyan combined with Super Saiyan Blue may be his only avenue for trying to remain competitive with Goku. Now if he could somehow incorporate the power of Oozaru into a hypothetical SSJB3, it might even start to bridge the inevitable chasm that will form between them once Goku's new transformation becomes an on-screen reality.
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Idk. Honestly idk lol. Goku can handle kaioken x10 on top of ssjb but apparently ssjb2 is too much?
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Well i remember toriyama saying something like he uses the power of ssj2 and 3 in his ssj form. I figured he was speaking about blue and that how it has the ki control he can use the power of a theoretical ssjb2 and 3 without the need to actually transform.
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Ssjb2/3 are incompatible with perfect ki control...but then ssjbkk makes no sense.

Goku's new form will be weird, if he's already using perfect ki control and 'god ki', then where do you go from there?

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Ssjb's focus is on god ki not ssj ki. It's easier to think of ssjb as its own transformation. It's basically the ssj version of ssjg nothing more. The way I see it you can't go ssjbssj2 or 3 you can only go either or. For instance you can go ssj, ssj2, ssj3 or ssjb. It's like asking, "why can't you stack ssj2 on top of ssj2?" KK is just a powered up version of whatever state you're in.
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Aug 3 2017, 10:40 PM
Ssjb2/3 are incompatible with perfect ki control...but then ssjbkk makes no sense.

Goku's new form will be weird, if he's already using perfect ki control and 'god ki', then where do you go from there?

Goku has mastered ssj2.
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Nothing says SS2 and SS3 can't be stacked on top of SSG. I assume we haven't seen it because it's not very inspired and SSB already drains stamina like crazy. SSB with Kaio-Ken exists though, so there doesn't seem to be a real excuse for no SS2 Blue.
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Well if Ssjb has perfect ki control logically he would be able to use the power of ssj2 and 3 with ssjb without the physical transformation.

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