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Gray vs Aokiji
Topic Started: Aug 2 2017, 09:19 PM (543 Views)
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Gray from FT at strongest vs Aokiji from One Piece at strongest

Round 1: Normal
Round 2: Equal Speed
Round 3: Equal Power
Round 4: Equal Speed and Power
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He still wins.

Like I said, Gray's biggest problem is that he can't even touch Aokiji.

What's the point of having equal speed and power if you can't touch your opponent ?
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Gray's only chance is in round 4 imo, but with Aokiji's greater combat experience, higher stamina, intangibility and precognition I'd say the Admiral takes this more often than not.
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Aug 3 2017, 07:35 PM
He still wins.

Like I said, Gray's biggest problem is that he can't even touch Aokiji.

What's the point of having equal speed and power if you can't touch your opponent ?
Why can't he touch him?
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Aug 3 2017, 06:13 PM
I don't think so. Magma and Fire aren't the same thing, but Aokiji and Gray both use Ice.

Gray maybe has better mastery of Ice, but Aokiji is ice incarnated whereas Gray has a certain limit, and Aokiji has better physical attributes and is a logia.
His intangibility is a major problem for Gray.
Akainu stated that magma is hotter than fire though so it seems more of a temperature thing.

Stands to reason that it should go the same way for the opposite element within One Piece anyway.
I doubt Aokiji could survive absolute zero anyway.


Why wouldn't Gray be able to eat him? I doubt he'd really do that but Aokiji isn't intangible his ice form is solid he just has full control over it. If you break him to pieces you can still pick the pieces up.
Unlike Smoker or Caesar who are gas or anyone who's a liquid.
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Why can't he touch him?


He can't touch him because Aokiji is a logia. It's been confirmed you can't hit a Logia unless you:
-Can use armament Haki.
-Or use the proprieties' weakness(That's how luffy was able to touch and defeated some Logia such as croc who has sand powers by using any liquid such as his blood, or was able to tag Enel who is electrical due to luffy's natural advantage of being rubber.)

Gray has neither things going for him.

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Akainu stated that magma is hotter than fire though so it seems more of a temperature thing.


Like I said, Magma and Fire aren't the same thing.
Magma is a mixture of molten rock, whereas fire isn't. And Akainu could have very well used Haki.

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Stands to reason that it should go the same way for the opposite element within One Piece anyway.
I doubt Aokiji could survive absolute zero anyway.


Assuming Gray can even reach absolute zero.

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Why wouldn't Gray be able to eat him? I doubt he'd really do that but Aokiji isn't intangible his ice form is solid he just has full control over it. If you break him to pieces you can still pick the pieces up.
Unlike Smoker or Caesar who are gas or anyone who's a liquid.


Gray can't eat him because Aokiji is intangible due to his logia proprieties and that Gray is physically inferior.
and yes, Aokiji has demonstrated feats of being intangible:
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Gray has neither things going for him.


In this section there are two ways to look at this though.

Energy is equailized here so one way is that Haki and Magic function the same way, so Magic should hurt Aokiji.
And then if we say Logia still works then of course it shouldn't unless there's something in Fairy Tail truly comparable, a special kind of non magic energy or some crap.

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Like I said, Magma and Fire aren't the same thing.
Magma is a mixture of molten rock, whereas fire isn't. And Akainu could have very well used Haki.


That's irrelevant though, Akainu states that there's a heat difference.
Magma in real life has no hope of putting out fire considering fire is a reaction and magma is a liquid. It's almost like gas vs liquid.
Magma can't burn fire but by virtue of being hotter than fire it could burn Ace.
There isn't really any reason why that shouldn't work in the opposite direction.

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Assuming Gray can even reach absolute zero.


I mean generally there's probably a limit Aokiji can go to and his ice seems to be all the same so far as we know.


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Gray can't eat him because Aokiji is intangible due to his logia proprieties and that Gray is physically inferior.
and yes, Aokiji has demonstrated feats of being intangible:
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Not the same as intangibility. Intangibility is like Kitty from X-Men where you can put your hands through her, Aokiji makes that hole in his body to avoid the hit.
Otherwise he's still solid and he gets hit multiple times to show this. You can still grab Aokiji just for most people that's a stupid idea because you're now frozen.

So far only Aokiji and Blackbeard are solid Logia's, everyone else is something you can't really grab like sand or mud.
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OK let's assume Aokiji is solid.

He's still superior to Gray physically. He won't even use his ice powers.
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Yeah I think Gray can only really win with equal speed and power(assuming that applies to physicals too)

He may be more skilled than Aokiji when it comes to hand to hand, can't really tell since Aokiji has barely done anything and Logia's always get it easy.
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