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Gray vs Aokiji
Topic Started: Aug 2 2017, 09:19 PM (544 Views)
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Gray from FT at strongest vs Aokiji from One Piece at strongest

Round 1: Normal
Round 2: Equal Speed
Round 3: Equal Power
Round 4: Equal Speed and Power
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Got any decent feats for Gray?

I don't think he wins most of these anyway Aokiji is pretty strong, unless we say every single attack can hurt him but I don't think that would really work.
Probably the most powerful/coldest attacks would be needed to hurt him, rather than something basic like Lance.

I'd say Aokiji's core stats are too high here, he's not done as much fancy stuff as Gray but One Piece characters have a lot more brawn than Fairy Tail characters. Plus Armament Haki.

And then when stats are equal his experience ought to shine through.

Not to mention Rokushiki which he seems to know.


Also worth noting that he and Akainu fought for 10 days, presumably non stop. The result being the island they fought on becoming pretty uninhabitable with one half being a frozen wasteland and the other a volcanic wasteland.
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I think as long as Aokiji refrains from using any ice attacks against Gray, he may be fine. Gray can eat any ice attack to grow stronger and regain stamina. If Aokiji threw an ice sword at Gray, Gray could just grab it and eat it. But he could stab Gray with ice and injure him. Gray stabbed himself with an ice sword at one point and was able to do damage. Gray is a more of tactical fighter, but where he'll be lost most is speed. I think he'd win Round 1, 2, and 4. But not 3. Of course I'm not as familiar with Aokiji. Gray before becoming a Devilslayer would get absolutely stomped though. 10 days is impressive and this may not sound as impressive, but Natsu and Gray fought each other endlessly without any rest for 3 whole days. Mind you that was near the beginning of the series.
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Aokiji has better physical abilities, but his power are hard countered by Gray.

Gray can still use his power on Aokiji, but not only Aokiji control ice too, Gray can't even hit him because Aokiji is a logia.

Aokiji 10/10 if gray doesn't have haki
Aokiji 7/10 If Gray has haki.
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Gray can still use his power on Aokiji, but not only Aokiji control ice too, Gray can't even hit him because Aokiji is a logia.
Nah I reckon some of Gray's attacks ought to work, in the same way that Akainu could burn Ace because Magma > Fire, no Haki required.

Gray's coldest or most concentrated attacks would probably do the same thing.
At least so far I don't think we've seen Aokiji really do much with actual temperature control his ice is ice and that's it.


The volume of ice he can create is pretty crazy though, if this fight takes place near water Aokiji has some advantages:



Considering that he may be able to basically null Gray's attacks.
Gray definitely has better ice attacks but if Aokiji can rapidly stop that much moving water he should have high defence here.
That amount of water and all that kinetic energy would be massively heavy and strong.



This is a weird fight really.

Aokiji's ice is probably useless in terms of attack but he outclasses Gray physically so one of them would have to be pushed in to defence while the other attacks.

Still, I'd say Aokiji wins most fights especially since either he's insanely skilled or he uses Observation Haki well, he blocks or resists a number of attacks at the last second in Marineford, turning to ice just before they hit. Even a surprise attack from Diamond Jozu, which makes him bleed a tiny bit.



Worth noting that we've never really seen Aokiji go all out with attack, his heart never seems to be in the fight or he's just that much more powerful than everyone that he wins effortlessly.
If he put up such a good fight against Akainu he must have much more we haven't seen.
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I don't think so. Magma and Fire aren't the same thing, but Aokiji and Gray both use Ice.

Gray maybe has better mastery of Ice, but Aokiji is ice incarnated whereas Gray has a certain limit, and Aokiji has better physical attributes and is a logia.
His intangibility is a major problem for Gray.
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Gray hasn't really shown any limits of his power as an Ice Devil Slayer and he'd be able to keep on coming with more attacks by restoring his stamina from Aokji's attacks.
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Problem is, Ice wouldn't affect Aokiji.

Aokiji can't use his ice on Gray, since he would eat them, and Gray can't use his ice on Aokiji because he's made of ice and it wouldn't work.

It would boil down into a physical fight where Aokiji holds the advantage due to being intangible and superior to Gray physically.
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How is ice ineffective and Devil Slaying Ice should definitely have an effect on him regardless of what he's made of.
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Because Aokiji IS LITERALLY MADE OF ICE.

Can you burn someone who is literally made of fire by using fire ?
Exactly.

And Gray can't even touch him, he'd need to have Haki.
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Devil Slaying Ice>Normal Ice

And yes fire has beaten fire
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Even if devil slaying ice > Ice, Gray can't touch Aokiji.
His intangibility as a Logia makes Gray's attack inefficient.

Alright then. Give me a scan of beating someone made of fire by using Fire.
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He beat Zancrow who is supposed to be completely unaffected by fire.

And haven't you ever heard the term fighting fire with fire before? If Aokiji is made of ice, then Gray can just eat him.
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Unaffected by fire =/= Made of fire. Not the same thing.
Fighting fire by fire doesn't apply because it's ice duh :rofl:

And yeah, Try eating someone who is stronger and faster.
Not to mention, Aokiji is intangible, so it'd be the same as trying to eat air.
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Read OP. Some rounds they have equal speed or power or both.
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