Notaka

Aug 3 2017, 11:33 AM

Mate, we still have to do this ?

When Natsu survives an attack that destroys the freaking moon, come back here and tell us that he easily clears Dragon Ball.

Steve

Aug 3 2017, 05:15 PM

Notaka

Aug 3 2017, 11:33 AM

Mate, we still have to do this ?

When Natsu survives an attack that destroys the freaking moon, come back here and tell us that he easily clears Dragon Ball.

We do when you blatantly ignore Tao being wrecked by a crappy nade.

Crappy grenade > Moon?

This is why your viewing of the power structure is completely flawed. s*** just don't work like that.

Moreover barely anyone ever takes a full power blast so it's way in to the series before anyone survives anything you could confidently say is moon level, even though it's a pointless distinction since we never have any indication how much Ki goes in to an attack...like...ever.


The only way Natsu doesn't clear Dragon Ball is if he's slower than them but that seems doubtful and even so if they're just slightly faster he has way better AoE.

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Moreover barely anyone ever takes a full power blast so it's way in to the series before anyone survives anything you could confidently say is moon level, even though it's a pointless distinction since we never have any indication how much Ki goes in to an attack...like...ever.

Notaka

Aug 3 2017, 06:09 PM

Uhm no.
Goku was tanking hits from King Piccolo who is City Level.
He took Piccolo's blast who is island level.
And he's as strong as BoZ Piccolo who destroyed the moon. And it makes no sense if Piccolo doesn't have moon level durability; if he can dish out moon level attacks then he can survive them.

Natsu does clear Dragon Ball, but with trouble. He either stops at BoZ Goku/Piccolo, and even if he won(if we are being generous) Raditz is patiently waiting to end him.


Natsu has done nothing that matches Raditz. Period.

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Lmao, Tao isn't moon level. only BoZ Goku/Piccolo and up are.
and no, Master Roshi blowing up the moon is an outlier, and even then his buffed up is stronger than Tao Pai Pai.

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Uhm no.
Goku was tanking hits from King Piccolo who is City Level.
He took Piccolo's blast who is island level.

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Natsu has done nothing that matches Raditz. Period.

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Roshi>Tao? How? 22nd Roshi yes.

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King Piccolo is definitely above city level. Just because that's all he demonstrated that doesn't mean that's his limits. He said that he could destroy an entire sector with ease.

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Read my past posts and the series. Natsu is crazy strong in the Alvarez Empire Arc.

Greenough

Aug 3 2017, 08:15 PM

Gohan doesn't have an attack in the Saiyan arc that can destroy the moon. So Roshi>Gohan, right?

Solid Snake

Aug 3 2017, 08:49 PM

Greenough

Aug 3 2017, 08:15 PM

Gohan doesn't have an attack in the Saiyan arc that can destroy the moon. So Roshi>Gohan, right?

He does, he surpassed his uncle who was already moon level easily. So no, Roshi isn't on Gohan's level after his training.

PocketGod

Aug 3 2017, 09:26 PM

Gohan's PL > BoZ Piccolo's PL = strong enough to blow up the moon.

There ya go, Gohan's got power scaling going for him.

Since you're claiming the positive, burden of proof actually falls to you to prove that Natsu can survive a moon busting attack >__>

Greenough

Aug 3 2017, 09:27 PM

PocketGod

Aug 3 2017, 09:26 PM

Gohan's PL > BoZ Piccolo's PL = strong enough to blow up the moon.

There ya go, Gohan's got power scaling going for him.

Since you're claiming the positive, burden of proof actually falls to you to prove that Natsu can survive a moon busting attack >__>

Go away Pocket lol.

Darker

Aug 3 2017, 09:29 PM

And this is why DBZ characters aren't good for versus matches. Little to no consistency in there.

I mean really, both of you, Snake and Notaka, are you really going to argue Tao to be tough enough to take attacks that could destroy the Moon and that he's strong enough to return these, how come Goku can still be injured by firearms in later arcs? Tao is still human after all, even Roshi had to catch all those bullets from the RRA guy.

As I said, there's no point in debating nonsensical stuff like this, especially with a character that has so few feats. I blame myself for making this thread along so many others.

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Lmao, Tao isn't moon level. only BoZ Goku/Piccolo and up are.
and no, Master Roshi blowing up the moon is an outlier, and even then his buffed up is stronger than Tao Pai Pai.

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Natsu has done nothing that matches Raditz. Period.

Darker

Aug 3 2017, 09:29 PM

And this is why DBZ characters aren't good for versus matches. Little to no consistency in there.

I mean really, both of you, Snake and Notaka, are you really going to argue Tao to be tough enough to take attacks that could destroy the Moon and that he's strong enough to return these, how come Goku can still be injured by firearms in later arcs? Tao is still human after all, even Roshi had to catch all those bullets from the RRA guy.

As I said, there's no point in debating nonsensical stuff like this, especially with a character that has so few feats. I blame myself for making this thread along so many others.