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| + Son-Goku | Jul 30 2017, 09:33 PM Post #1 |
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When should it be acceptable if at all? Explain your reasonings. |
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| + Steve | Jul 30 2017, 09:58 PM Post #2 |
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It should always be acceptable unless the person/animal has a hope of recovery. If someone is in a coma but is pretty stable and could wake up, no. If they start to deteriorate and might not bounce back, yes. If a person of sound mind who's ill wants to die I see no reason why they should be forced to suffer. Same goes for anyone who is most definitely suffering but can't respond. I have no idea why people can be so against it, especially when people actually want to die because their life is just constant pain...somehow it's cruel to release them? I remember seeing on TV years ago there was a woman who wanted an assisted suicide, can't remember what was wrong with her but she had to speak through a computer like Stephen Hawking and she made it say "I am dead" it was pretty depressing. She was literally in a position where she couldn't live any longer and couldn't have any sort of life what so ever. Since then, even though death scares the crap out of me I've never seen a good reason to not allow someone to be put out of their misery, unless they're blatantly unstable. It's slightly more complicated with animals at times but usually it's painfully obvious that they won't last very long and will be in pain the whole time. I find it less agreeable when it's done with animals sometimes because people treat them like a commodity. Like when rich pricks will put a horse or a dog down because it broke a leg and can't win them money any more. No need for that s***. People just seem to look at their animal and think "It doesn't benefit me to keep it alive" which I find disgusting. Obviously sometimes people may have no other option like if a relatively poor family couldn't possibly afford an operation that may or may not save the animal. |
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| + Pelador | Jul 30 2017, 09:58 PM Post #3 |
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From a personal perspective I would rather be dead than locked in a body, unable to move. Also if I was in a great amount of pain with no end in sight then I would again rather be put out of my misery. I think it's the right thing to do in many situations. |
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| + Son-Goku | Jul 30 2017, 10:00 PM Post #4 |
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Yeah and what doesn't make sense the most is, if someone is going to die soon and they are really suffering and they just want it to end. Then why not allow it? They're going to die anyways, there's no point to suffer all the way to the end if they don't want to. |
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| + Steve | Jul 30 2017, 10:28 PM Post #5 |
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Yeah, clearly the cruelty lies in not ending it for them. It's like people think they're being evil by accepting it and want to feel like they're a good person for not letting someone die, even though they're really the cruel one who's putting the person through unnecessary pain for their own satisfaction. I've never seen a compelling argument for it, they pretty much all seem to boil down to "The person must be crazy so they can't make that decision" which is clearly not true and completely lacks any sort of empathy. It's like they put no thought in to how horrible it must be to live in agony for years. They seem like the same sort of people that say "You should just be happy" whenever someone has depression. Thanks, that helps a lot. "You should just stop having bone cancer and be healthy" 
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| Billa | Jul 30 2017, 10:56 PM Post #6 |
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Its different when u post in a forum about "whats right thing to do" than facing emotional & mental challenges of actually confronting such situation of sumone u dearly care about in real life Sometimes, whats mind says is overriden by human heart |
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| Darker | Aug 15 2017, 08:55 AM Post #7 |
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As someone who's gone through this sort of thing, it's not that hard of a decision. It is hard, as to be expected, but just because we're talking about it here, on a forum, being hypothetical, that doesn't mean we wouldn't be brave enough to confront this sort of tragedy. Then again I'm probably talking about myself more than I am talking about others, but I do know a few other people here have done this. |
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| * Yu Narukami | Aug 15 2017, 09:19 AM Post #8 |
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It can and likely will be extremely difficult to make the decision if it's a loved one, but it's honestly the best thing you can do. If you love them, and you can put that love for them over your own desire to keep them alive, it's the only real choice to put them out of the pain or misery they're feeling. |
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| Notaka | Aug 15 2017, 10:59 AM Post #9 |
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In my opinion, it should, and should only be used in extreme cases. when: -The person is going to die and there is no hope of recovery. -And have the person consent to it. It's their choice if they want to put an end to their life immediately or not, it's their choice if they want to go through the pain or not |
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| + Ginyu | Aug 15 2017, 01:33 PM Post #10 |
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Not that simple. Let's say you can keep someone alive, but he'll pretty much be a vegetable. He pretty much can't do anything except breathe. Now here's an example: I know my father wouldn't want to live like that. He told me explicitly that he'd want to be euthanized is he were ever to get in such a state. But he only told me that. I don't have that black on white. The scenario is clearly a case where euthanasia is justified and yet none of the requirements you posted apply. I am more often than not in favor of euthanasia. If someone wants to be euthanized they should be able to. (After psychiatric tests that shows said person understands their decision) If people can't communicate and therefore can't consent, the family should be able to make the decision for someone. (Obviously only if there is no to almost no chance of recovery and survival) |
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| Strawberry | Aug 15 2017, 01:38 PM Post #11 |
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I still don't have a definite stance on euthanasia. I used to be all for the legalization of euthanasia and then I met my boyfriend who was studying to become a doctor (and is now a surgeon), and he opposes the legalization of euthanasia and has opened up my mind to a different perspective that is honestly quite legitimate in many aspects. We've discussed this topic so many times throughout the years I've lost count. I still lean more in favor of euthanasia because my emotions speak louder when I see someone severely ill and in a final stage of a fatal disease completely miserable but having to be kept alive just for the sake of it, but the thing with euthanasia is that creating a dependable legislation for it is nearly impossible and holds a lot of very serious dangers. I guess I'll provide some of the main arguments against the legalization of euthanasia so we can open up the debate a bit more here. - Contrary to what one might commonly think, euthanasia is a lot more complex than a selfless act of love to stop the pain and agony of one's life. Law change for euthanasia holds severe long-term consequences for public safety and can be seen as an issue of social justice in protecting vulnerable people from pressure and abuse. - These days pain itself is relative. In the rare cases (1-4%) where pain medication is not enough, a person can be sedated. Persistent requests for euthanasia are typically not based on pain, but on non-physical reasons such as a desire to be in control, a fear of being a burden or feeling socially isolated. - The fact that voluntary euthanasia and assisted suicide (via euthanasia) are illegal means maximum efforts are made to relieve pain and address all aspects of a person's suffering. Will this still occur if the law is changed considering euthanasia would inevitably be the cheaper option -- both for the patient and medical institutions? - Changing the law would quite inevitably send a message that some people's lives are not worth living -- it would steer some people towards a premature death. In parallel, granting a tiny and vocal minority the choice to be killed may undermine the choice and/or will of many others to live. - Allowing voluntary euthanasia and assisted suicide via the use of euthanasia opens the door for disabled, sick and elderly people to see themselves as a financial and emotional burden. The "right to die" could easily flip into a "duty to die". No safeguards can really protect against this, really. - And lastly one that my boyfriend has told me countless times (although I find this the easiest argument to refute), we should not ask doctors, who have a duty of care, to intentionally kill their patients using lethal drugs. Good medical care aims to eliminate the pain, not kill the patient. |
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