Who current characters' power is comparable to

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Who current characters' power is comparable to
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superperfectnerd	Jul 27 2017, 07:31 PM Post #1
Posts: 3,709 Group: Member Member #11,519 Joined: July 15, 2014	Rather than going with power levels I decided to list who the big players are relative to in previous arcs, or as close as I can get, so far with what we've seen. Unprecedented Jiren Goku ssjbkkx10 Vegeta ssjb True Golden Freeza Ssjb Vegeta post ROSAT versus Black Toppo Ultimate Gohan (maybe) Android 17 (maybe) Ssj Rage Trunks before final fight with Black Hit Ssjb Goku and Vegeta during universe 6 tournament True Form Frost Ssj Vegetto Boo arc Beserker Kale Weaker than Super Boo Piccolo Stronger than Ssj3 Goku BOG Android 18 Ssj2 Caulifla Kid Boo Ssj Cabba Magetta Semi-perfect Cell Bergamo Bottomo Ssj Vegeta post first ROSAT trip android arc Lavender Basil Krillin Piccolo post ROSAT android arc Tien Stronger than android 17 android arc Buff Roshi



+ Son-Goku	Jul 27 2017, 07:48 PM Post #2
孫悟空 Posts: 13,358 Group: Elite Member Member #12,886 Joined: January 24, 2016 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime DB/DBZ/DBS, Code Geass, Gintama, YYH, Death Note, and SAO. What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga Dragon Ball, Fairy Tail, and Naruto.	Wait what? Frost seems way too high imo.
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StrenuousSpider	Jul 27 2017, 07:51 PM Post #3
Posts: 2,085 Group: Member Member #13,372 Joined: July 11, 2016 Gender Male Country United States	Greenough Jul 27 2017, 07:48 PM Wait what? Frost seems way too high imo. Well he is stronger since U6 tournament as he went to train with Hit if i remember correctly. But i agree he dose seem abit high.



+ Son-Goku	Jul 27 2017, 08:08 PM Post #4
孫悟空 Posts: 13,358 Group: Elite Member Member #12,886 Joined: January 24, 2016 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime DB/DBZ/DBS, Code Geass, Gintama, YYH, Death Note, and SAO. What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga Dragon Ball, Fairy Tail, and Naruto.	StrenuousSpider Jul 27 2017, 07:51 PM Greenough Jul 27 2017, 07:48 PM Wait what? Frost seems way too high imo. Well he is stronger since U6 tournament as he went to train with Hit if i remember correctly. But i agree he dose seem abit high. Hit said that he had to be a bit serious against Frost for a moment. They didn't train though. He improved, but yeah I don't think that much. Especially not above Kale.
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Mike XL	Jul 27 2017, 08:54 PM Post #5
Posts: 1,181 Group: Member Member #8,239 Joined: September 4, 2012 Favourite Anime Dragonball, Dragonball Z, Gundam Seed, Death Note, Bleach, Yu Yu Hakusho	Ultimate Gohan, Frost, Kale, 18, Caulifla, Cabba, Magetta, Krillen, Tien, and Roshi are all way too high imo. Ultimate Gohan- Around SSJ Vegito Frost- Buu saga SSJ 2 Goku tier Kale- TOP SSJ 3 Goku tier 18- Marginally higher than she was at the Cell/Buu saga Caulifla/Cabba- TOP SSJ Goku Tier Mageta- Perfect Cell Tier Krillen/Tenshinhan- 30 Percent Initial Final Form Freeza(DBZ not Super Freeza) Roshi- Recoom/Burter/Jeice Tier Maybe I'm selling some of these guys short, but nothing has suggested that some of these guys are that powerful.



superperfectnerd	Jul 27 2017, 09:03 PM Post #6
Posts: 3,709 Group: Member Member #11,519 Joined: July 15, 2014	Frost is kind of a blind guess, I'm expecting him to only be slightly weaker than final form Freeza though ad Freeza's final form was 'saiyan beyond god' level and has only gotten stronger, his golden form is ony a three times boost from his final form for me, so for Frost to be relative to him, he has to have improved a LOT and he made Hit try. Could be proven vastly wrong. Krillin could fight base Gohan and Gohan was relative to Goku in base and ssj before training more, Goku has blue. So Goghan's base form is radically stronger and Krillin can compete. Tien is a bit weaker than Krillin and Roshi a bit weaker than Tien. This is a universal tournament, I can't see the guys Krillin and Roshi are taking out at Ginyu force level, not when the big hitters are ssjb level. The humans caught up with base saiyans before, wherever the base saiyans are at, the humans remain slightly behind but they don't have ssj forms.



+ Pyrus	Jul 27 2017, 09:11 PM Post #7
Posts: 39,342 Group: Legend Member #5,088 Joined: August 1, 2010 Gender Not Specified Country Chile	superperfectnerd Jul 27 2017, 09:03 PM Frost is kind of a blind guess, I'm expecting him to only be slightly weaker than final form Freeza though ad Freeza's final form was 'saiyan beyond god' level and has only gotten stronger, his golden form is ony a three times boost from his final form for me, so for Frost to be relative to him, he has to have improved a LOT and he made Hit try. Could be proven vastly wrong. Krillin could fight base Gohan and Gohan was relative to Goku in base and ssj before training more, Goku has blue. So Goghan's base form is radically stronger and Krillin can compete. Tien is a bit weaker than Krillin and Roshi a bit weaker than Tien. This is a universal tournament, I can't see the guys Krillin and Roshi are taking out at Ginyu force level, not when the big hitters are ssjb level. The humans caught up with base saiyans before, wherever the base saiyans are at, the humans remain slightly behind but they don't have ssj forms. I don't know about the rest, but Krillin wasn't shown to be able to compete with Base Gohan. He was nowhere near his strength. He got one-up with his techniques in an episode that was meant to teach Gohan about the rules of the tournament IIRC, but that was it. Gohan has since gotten a ton stronger, while we don't know how much stronger Krillin has gotten and likely never will since he's been eliminated already.
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superperfectnerd	Jul 27 2017, 09:20 PM Post #8
Posts: 3,709 Group: Member Member #11,519 Joined: July 15, 2014	All the way from Dragon Ball to before Goku, Vegeta, Gohan and Trunks entered the ROSAT, the humans were not that far behind the base saiyans. I have a 25% gap between base Cabba and Krillin. The humans have gotten serious for the first time since the 3 year training for the androids, I don't see why they can't become about 3/4 of the weakest base saiyans (Trunks and Goten not included because they've slacked).



Mike XL	Jul 27 2017, 09:34 PM Post #9
Posts: 1,181 Group: Member Member #8,239 Joined: September 4, 2012 Favourite Anime Dragonball, Dragonball Z, Gundam Seed, Death Note, Bleach, Yu Yu Hakusho	superperfectnerd Jul 27 2017, 09:03 PM Frost is kind of a blind guess, I'm expecting him to only be slightly weaker than final form Freeza though ad Freeza's final form was 'saiyan beyond god' level and has only gotten stronger, his golden form is ony a three times boost from his final form for me, so for Frost to be relative to him, he has to have improved a LOT and he made Hit try. Could be proven vastly wrong. Krillin could fight base Gohan and Gohan was relative to Goku in base and ssj before training more, Goku has blue. So Goghan's base form is radically stronger and Krillin can compete. Tien is a bit weaker than Krillin and Roshi a bit weaker than Tien. This is a universal tournament, I can't see the guys Krillin and Roshi are taking out at Ginyu force level, not when the big hitters are ssjb level. The humans caught up with base saiyans before, wherever the base saiyans are at, the humans remain slightly behind but they don't have ssj forms. I only think Roshi is at Ginyu Force level. Having him near even Ten and Krillen seems crazy to me. Whether you have the humans at base Sayian level or Ginyu level, it's not that different really, neither level is going to be significant in the TOP. The only way they can contribute is teamwork, Ki amps, and techniques like Solar Flare.



Thiln	Jul 27 2017, 09:39 PM Post #10
Posts: 2,481 Group: Member Member #12,166 Joined: March 23, 2015 Gender Male Favourite Anime Dragon Ball, Attack on Titan What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga Hokuto no Ken, Berserk, Dragon Ball, Rurouni Kenshin, Attack on Titan, Kuroshitsuji	No matter what some member of the animation staff says, I just can't reconcile with the idea of #17 being so powerful. He's like a glaringly unwanted and unexpected boil that popped up in the strangest of places. How in the heck did he become so powerful off-screen? Such strength seems like it would be impossible for an individual who is only more or less human with no extraordinary conditions facilitating his power growth. What strength he did possess was artificially implanted many years previously by Dr Gero. You can't rationalise such a blatantly contrived plot device.



+ Pyrus	Jul 27 2017, 09:42 PM Post #11
Posts: 39,342 Group: Legend Member #5,088 Joined: August 1, 2010 Gender Not Specified Country Chile	superperfectnerd Jul 27 2017, 09:20 PM All the way from Dragon Ball to before Goku, Vegeta, Gohan and Trunks entered the ROSAT, the humans were not that far behind the base saiyans. I have a 25% gap between base Cabba and Krillin. The humans have gotten serious for the first time since the 3 year training for the androids, I don't see why they can't become about 3/4 of the weakest base saiyans (Trunks and Goten not included because they've slacked). I get that, but it shouldn't override what we saw transpire on screen.
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superperfectnerd	Jul 28 2017, 12:45 AM Post #12
Posts: 3,709 Group: Member Member #11,519 Joined: July 15, 2014	We saw Krillin do well against Gohan by kicking him out of the ring, even if Krillin blinded Gohan if he's only Namek level his attacks wouldn't move Gohan if Gohan kept his ki raised, same way Krillin's punches didn't phase semi-perfect Cell. It's like when Vegeta stood on Bulma's ship and all of those branches just broke on his face and even his eyeball, if Krillin is so far behind base saiyans then even with all of his senses dampened, he shouldn't be able to move him at all. Plus he held back Goku's kamehameha and yes, obviously Goku held back power but he was surprised at Krllin's strength, Namek tier is where Goku would probably expect him to be. And Roshi floored Tien for a moment.



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