Did goku get nerfed?

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Did goku get nerfed?
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+ Ssj3vegito96	Jul 25 2017, 04:40 PM Post #1
Posts: 10,327 Group: Elite Member Member #10,438 Joined: November 2, 2013 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Dragon ball/Z/GT/S, Fullmetal Alchemist:Brotherhood, One Punch Man Favourite Manga DB/Z/S	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UkdsbtnGooc I know some people don't care for seththeprogrammer but I thought he hit some good points and he also quotes one of the writers
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Tapey	Jul 26 2017, 01:55 AM Post #2
Posts: 34 Group: Member Member #13,972 Joined: July 24, 2017 Gender Female Country United States Favourite Anime Clannad After Story What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga Love Hina	Maybe, Maybe not, I didnt watch the video, but Goku will be as strong as the writers need him to be.



+ ThePrinceOfSaiyans	Jul 26 2017, 02:59 PM Post #3
魔王子 Posts: 9,797 Group: Elite Member Member #10,492 Joined: November 16, 2013 Gender Male Favourite Anime Dragon Ball Z What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga Dragon Ball	I certainly don't think so. Goku has made a habit of holding back to test people. He held back against Kuririn, he outright said he held back against No. 17, granted No. 17 held back too, and Goku outright said he was going to put out a bit more power against Kale, which suggests to me Goku was also holding back against Kale.
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superperfectnerd	Jul 26 2017, 03:10 PM Post #4
Posts: 3,709 Group: Member Member #11,519 Joined: July 15, 2014	No, he's just not taking a tournament to decide the fate of his universe seriously.



StrenuousSpider	Jul 26 2017, 04:05 PM Post #5
Posts: 2,085 Group: Member Member #13,372 Joined: July 11, 2016 Gender Male Country United States	superperfectnerd Jul 26 2017, 03:10 PM No, he's just not taking a tournament to decide the fate of his universe seriously. Which honestly is vary irritating to watcg at times



+ Son-Goku	Jul 26 2017, 04:07 PM Post #6
孫悟空 Posts: 13,358 Group: Elite Member Member #12,886 Joined: January 24, 2016 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime DB/DBZ/DBS, Code Geass, Gintama, YYH, Death Note, and SAO. What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga Dragon Ball, Fairy Tail, and Naruto.	ThePrinceOfSaiyans Jul 26 2017, 02:59 PM I certainly don't think so. Goku has made a habit of holding back to test people. He held back against Kuririn, he outright said he held back against No. 17, granted No. 17 held back too, and Goku outright said he was going to put out a bit more power against Kale, which suggests to me Goku was also holding back against Kale. That and he would also be holding back to conserve energy and stamina. There's still a lot of fighters left and he plans to fight Jiren still. Edited by Son-Goku, Jul 26 2017, 04:07 PM.
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Rockman	Jul 27 2017, 09:33 PM Post #7
hoighty-toighty Posts: 11,070 Group: Guardian Member #48 Joined: December 17, 2004 Gender Male Country United States What Browser do you use? Firefox, when it isn't crashing.	StrenuousSpider Jul 26 2017, 04:05 PM superperfectnerd Jul 26 2017, 03:10 PM No, he's just not taking a tournament to decide the fate of his universe seriously. Which honestly is vary irritating to watcg at times That was the whole damn point in all of this. For him to go after the strongest one there. You know it was.
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Mike XL	Jul 27 2017, 09:35 PM Post #8
Posts: 1,181 Group: Member Member #8,239 Joined: September 4, 2012 Favourite Anime Dragonball, Dragonball Z, Gundam Seed, Death Note, Bleach, Yu Yu Hakusho	Goku went Blue vs Krillen. He doesn't always use full power with Blue. He's still OP as hell and the number one guy on Universe 7.



StrenuousSpider	Jul 27 2017, 10:45 PM Post #9
Posts: 2,085 Group: Member Member #13,372 Joined: July 11, 2016 Gender Male Country United States	Rockman Jul 27 2017, 09:33 PM StrenuousSpider Jul 26 2017, 04:05 PM superperfectnerd Jul 26 2017, 03:10 PM No, he's just not taking a tournament to decide the fate of his universe seriously. Which honestly is vary irritating to watcg at times That was the whole damn point in all of this. For him to go after the strongest one there. You know it was. Just because he is reserving energy dose not mean he should not take it serious.



+ Saiyan Paladin	Jul 28 2017, 12:54 AM Post #10
Posts: 1,920 Group: Elite Member Member #10,232 Joined: September 21, 2013 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Dragon Ball Kai, Yu Yu Hakusho What Browser do you use? Firefox, Chrome Favourite Manga Dragon Ball, Berserk	How does one even draw this conclusion? He is just randomly weaker because of that Kale nonsense? Everyone was asking if Krillin was Blue tier after that episode. Everyone was asking if No.17 was Blue tier after that episode. Everyone is now asking if Kale is Blue tier after the last episode. The answer is no, Goku is either holding back to test his opponent, or holding back to conserve ki. He doesn't take anything seriously. I mean, s***, nobody was questioning if that dude who put Goku in a headlock and made him use Blue to get free was in that tier. Why is context so far beyond some of my friends here? Goku says he going to "use a little more power" and watches without concern as Kale walks through that. His demeanor never changes, he was pretty carefree. That's how Goku is in Super, the only time his wiped that goofy look off of his face was during the U6&7 Tournament vs. Hit and the Black arc, and I'd bet he'll get serious again once the ToP is winding down. TL:DR Goku is just being Goku.



Muyasuki	Jul 29 2017, 01:52 AM Post #11
Posts: 743 Group: Member Member #6,973 Joined: November 12, 2011	I don't understand a lot of people's issues here. It boils down to this; characters are stronger than you think you are (it's not that Goku's become weaker). It doesn't even really take a lot of work to do. Just using the above comparisons (Krillin, 17 and Kale): with Krillin; the implication was that Goku was holding back in SSJB. The squrmishes Krillin had with both Gohan and Goku showed that he was around their bases. With 17; it was outright stated that both were holding back (to what degree we don't know). In the case of Kale; that's a little trickier. Goku had no reason to hold back his power outside of stamina concerns (especially since he saw a universe literally be destroyed (two if you include Future Trunks' timeline)). At the same time; he also (as a SSJ2) was receiving more damage from Calufia then he was from Kale's rage form (hidden just by her juggernaut nature). Goku likely wasn't holding back too much in terms of his blue; her durability was JUST that high.



StrenuousSpider	Jul 29 2017, 01:57 AM Post #12
Posts: 2,085 Group: Member Member #13,372 Joined: July 11, 2016 Gender Male Country United States	Muyasuki Jul 29 2017, 01:52 AM I don't understand a lot of people's issues here. It boils down to this; characters are stronger than you think you are (it's not that Goku's become weaker). It doesn't even really take a lot of work to do. Just using the above comparisons (Krillin, 17 and Kale): with Krillin; the implication was that Goku was holding back in SSJB. The squrmishes Krillin had with both Gohan and Goku showed that he was around their bases. With 17; it was outright stated that both were holding back (to what degree we don't know). In the case of Kale; that's a little trickier. Goku had no reason to hold back his power outside of stamina concerns (especially since he saw a universe literally be destroyed (two if you include Future Trunks' timeline)). At the same time; he also (as a SSJ2) was receiving more damage from Calufia then he was from Kale's rage form (hidden just by her juggernaut nature). Goku likely wasn't holding back too much in terms of his blue; her durability was JUST that high. Ssj2 plus im going to use a little more power then yah its safe to assume she is no where near blue full power and neither is her durability. Tho i do believe her durability is superior to her strength. She is not a insane amount ahead of gokus ssj2.



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