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Where do you place Kale in terms of power?
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Kale is weak sauce compared to the real top guys. Goku can adjust Blue power output to any kind of level he wants, he could power down to be as strong as a regular human for what he cares. He was just testing her power and having fun, like always so far in this tournament.
He looked serious and ki control is a bs excuse. He can sense power levels so he shouldn't have been suppressed to a level weaker than Kale. And he can suppress himself in any SSJ form. They all have "ki control"
Of course, he was so serious that he said: "I am going to use a little bit more of power" before going Blue. So serious that, at the end of Episode 101, he flat out told Kale and Cauli to become stronger so he can fight them properly next time. So serious that he doesn't even have a scratch on his clothes. Goku's real target is Jiren, and he know very well thanks to Toppo that Jiren is stronger than even his SSB + KK form. Still, as Goku replied to Toppo in the occasion of the Zeno exibition match, SSB + KK was not his limit, as he was going to power up even more before the Grand Priest interrupted the match. THAT is Goku being serious and everybody and their moms know that Goku is saving his "seriousness" for Jiren, the same Jiren who oneshotted weak a*** Kale with a generic ki blast. But of course, SSB is not stronger than Ssj2 and Goku was bloodlusted and going all out against weak souce Kale. Also, no, he cannot suppress himself with any form of Ssj: nobody ever suppressed himself when going Ssj3, for example, not Goku nor Gotenks, as it is an incredibly power intensive form. SSB, on the other hand, can go from being incredibly below Ssj3 (sparring with Kuririn) to make a Ssj3 look like an insignificant ant (serious and serious + KK). Just like FP Ssj, but with God ki.
Could be referring to the fact that he's not going kaioken. The scratches thing is a lame argument, she knocked him out of SSB. He was losing to Kale, if he's suppressed than that should warrant him having scratches as he couldn't do jacksh*t to her. "Properly" Yeah, no sh*t Kale raged against him. We know SSB and MSSJ can suppress power, I have no idea why SSJ2 or SSJ3 wouldn't be able to, that just sounds like nonsense to me.
You've never once proven she knocked him out of blue so stop saying and just let this s*** doe already.
He came out the rubble, a few scenes later in base That dose not account for anything. It takes a literal second to transform back to base. We see him after the fight with the wolves in base. Did not transform back form are far worse beating from freiza and black without being knocked out. So just because we see him in base dose not mean he was knocked out of it.
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Kale is weak sauce compared to the real top guys. Goku can adjust Blue power output to any kind of level he wants, he could power down to be as strong as a regular human for what he cares. He was just testing her power and having fun, like always so far in this tournament.
He looked serious and ki control is a bs excuse. He can sense power levels so he shouldn't have been suppressed to a level weaker than Kale. And he can suppress himself in any SSJ form. They all have "ki control"
Of course, he was so serious that he said: "I am going to use a little bit more of power" before going Blue. So serious that, at the end of Episode 101, he flat out told Kale and Cauli to become stronger so he can fight them properly next time. So serious that he doesn't even have a scratch on his clothes. Goku's real target is Jiren, and he know very well thanks to Toppo that Jiren is stronger than even his SSB + KK form. Still, as Goku replied to Toppo in the occasion of the Zeno exibition match, SSB + KK was not his limit, as he was going to power up even more before the Grand Priest interrupted the match. THAT is Goku being serious and everybody and their moms know that Goku is saving his "seriousness" for Jiren, the same Jiren who oneshotted weak a*** Kale with a generic ki blast. But of course, SSB is not stronger than Ssj2 and Goku was bloodlusted and going all out against weak souce Kale. Also, no, he cannot suppress himself with any form of Ssj: nobody ever suppressed himself when going Ssj3, for example, not Goku nor Gotenks, as it is an incredibly power intensive form. SSB, on the other hand, can go from being incredibly below Ssj3 (sparring with Kuririn) to make a Ssj3 look like an insignificant ant (serious and serious + KK). Just like FP Ssj, but with God ki.
Could be referring to the fact that he's not going kaioken. The scratches thing is a lame argument, she knocked him out of SSB. He was losing to Kale, if he's suppressed than that should warrant him having scratches as he couldn't do jacksh*t to her. "Properly" Yeah, no sh*t Kale raged against him. We know SSB and MSSJ can suppress power, I have no idea why SSJ2 or SSJ3 wouldn't be able to, that just sounds like nonsense to me.
You've never once proven she knocked him out of blue so stop saying and just let this s*** doe already.
He came out the rubble, a few scenes later in base
That dose not account for anything. It takes a literal second to transform back to base. We see him after the fight with the wolves in base. Did not transform back form are far worse beating from freiza and black without being knocked out. So just because we see him in base dose not mean he was knocked out of it. He was never shown powering down.
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Kale is weak sauce compared to the real top guys. Goku can adjust Blue power output to any kind of level he wants, he could power down to be as strong as a regular human for what he cares. He was just testing her power and having fun, like always so far in this tournament.
He looked serious and ki control is a bs excuse. He can sense power levels so he shouldn't have been suppressed to a level weaker than Kale. And he can suppress himself in any SSJ form. They all have "ki control"
Of course, he was so serious that he said: "I am going to use a little bit more of power" before going Blue. So serious that, at the end of Episode 101, he flat out told Kale and Cauli to become stronger so he can fight them properly next time. So serious that he doesn't even have a scratch on his clothes. Goku's real target is Jiren, and he know very well thanks to Toppo that Jiren is stronger than even his SSB + KK form. Still, as Goku replied to Toppo in the occasion of the Zeno exibition match, SSB + KK was not his limit, as he was going to power up even more before the Grand Priest interrupted the match. THAT is Goku being serious and everybody and their moms know that Goku is saving his "seriousness" for Jiren, the same Jiren who oneshotted weak a*** Kale with a generic ki blast. But of course, SSB is not stronger than Ssj2 and Goku was bloodlusted and going all out against weak souce Kale. Also, no, he cannot suppress himself with any form of Ssj: nobody ever suppressed himself when going Ssj3, for example, not Goku nor Gotenks, as it is an incredibly power intensive form. SSB, on the other hand, can go from being incredibly below Ssj3 (sparring with Kuririn) to make a Ssj3 look like an insignificant ant (serious and serious + KK). Just like FP Ssj, but with God ki.
Could be referring to the fact that he's not going kaioken. The scratches thing is a lame argument, she knocked him out of SSB. He was losing to Kale, if he's suppressed than that should warrant him having scratches as he couldn't do jacksh*t to her. "Properly" Yeah, no sh*t Kale raged against him. We know SSB and MSSJ can suppress power, I have no idea why SSJ2 or SSJ3 wouldn't be able to, that just sounds like nonsense to me.
You've never once proven she knocked him out of blue so stop saying and just let this s*** doe already.
He came out the rubble, a few scenes later in base
That dose not account for anything. It takes a literal second to transform back to base. We see him after the fight with the wolves in base. Did not transform back form are far worse beating from freiza and black without being knocked out. So just because we see him in base dose not mean he was knocked out of it.
He was never shown powering down. There have been several instances where we dont see it.
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People always trying to downplay Broly and Kale, ridiculous. He trashed the Z-fighters and Gohan fainted after his fight and had to try to resort to using lava. SSJ2 Goku couldn't hurt Kale and blue suppressed or not couldn't. Goku can read power levels, so there's no excuse for him to lose to Kale if he's stronger, period
No one downplays broly. We just dont over exaggerate his feats to the point of destroying galaxies and being able to beat people like super buu. Its only the broly fans that take facts as downplaying him.
No, Pakl, Vegito1089 and YTM are prime examples but I've seen others. Pakl says Buujin (Bojack henchman) or a cell jr could take m8 Broly and MSSJ Gohan could take m10 Broly. And they always downplay the z-fighters power in those movies as well as Broly's feats
I have never said such things... I always said M8 Broli is around Cell Games Goku and that M10 Broli isaround SSjin 2 Goku but of course I dont expect you to get what I say.. You are just spouting bulls***... You fit here perfectly....
Dude shut up, I don't even remember this conversation. Wanna come back over a week later.....
Can't tell what you are trying to say
I don't remember what you or I said and I'm not going to look it over, you decided to reply mad late. You talked about me in the post I replied to you...
As for the topic, like its not enough the Broli w***ing around... Now there is Kale w***ing... Lol... Kale is not stronger than SSB Goku... Goku states he would put more power than before... That alone proves he was not at full power... He was just suppressed.. Just look at his KHH vs Zamasu and see the difference... Against SSjin 3 Goku its unknown how she would fare though... However she was weaker than SSjin 2 Caulifla before the ToP... I would say she gets stronger by rage....
SSB Goku > SSjin Berserker Kale > SSjin 2 Goku
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i say kale is on par or above ssj3 goku, i agree that durability is a factor as i find it hard to believe kale made goku use a majority of his ssjb power against her
a good comparison i can make is between cell and bojack who both fouhgt an ssj2 and lost, however cell had several punches thrown at him and while injured, he was fine for the most part, while bojack who is around the same power as regular perfect cell got a hole in his gut from one punch from an ssj2 gohan who is probably at least as strong as his cell games self
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People always trying to downplay Broly and Kale, ridiculous. He trashed the Z-fighters and Gohan fainted after his fight and had to try to resort to using lava. SSJ2 Goku couldn't hurt Kale and blue suppressed or not couldn't. Goku can read power levels, so there's no excuse for him to lose to Kale if he's stronger, period
No one downplays broly. We just dont over exaggerate his feats to the point of destroying galaxies and being able to beat people like super buu. Its only the broly fans that take facts as downplaying him.
No, Pakl, Vegito1089 and YTM are prime examples but I've seen others. Pakl says Buujin (Bojack henchman) or a cell jr could take m8 Broly and MSSJ Gohan could take m10 Broly. And they always downplay the z-fighters power in those movies as well as Broly's feats
I have never said such things... I always said M8 Broli is around Cell Games Goku and that M10 Broli isaround SSjin 2 Goku but of course I dont expect you to get what I say.. You are just spouting bulls***... You fit here perfectly....
Dude shut up, I don't even remember this conversation. Wanna come back over a week later.....
Can't tell what you are trying to say
I don't remember what you or I said and I'm not going to look it over, you decided to reply mad late.
You talked about me in the post I replied to you... As for the topic, like its not enough the Broli w***ing around... Now there is Kale w***ing... Lol... Kale is not stronger than SSB Goku... Goku states he would put more power than before... That alone proves he was not at full power... He was just suppressed.. Just look at his KHH vs Zamasu and see the difference... Against SSjin 3 Goku its unknown how she would fare though... However she was weaker than SSjin 2 Caulifla before the ToP... I would say she gets stronger by rage.... SSB Goku > SSjin Berserker Kale > SSjin 2 Goku Nobody w***s Broly anymore, they just downplay, same with Kale. "More power" Yes, he was not at FP, know why? Cause kaioken x10 is full power, not SSB. His Khh against Zamasu? Again with the visual feats >.> Remember Cell's khh that eclipsed the sky? Mass does not equate to power. Weaker than SSJ2 Cauliflia how?
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People always trying to downplay Broly and Kale, ridiculous. He trashed the Z-fighters and Gohan fainted after his fight and had to try to resort to using lava. SSJ2 Goku couldn't hurt Kale and blue suppressed or not couldn't. Goku can read power levels, so there's no excuse for him to lose to Kale if he's stronger, period
No one downplays broly. We just dont over exaggerate his feats to the point of destroying galaxies and being able to beat people like super buu. Its only the broly fans that take facts as downplaying him.
No, Pakl, Vegito1089 and YTM are prime examples but I've seen others. Pakl says Buujin (Bojack henchman) or a cell jr could take m8 Broly and MSSJ Gohan could take m10 Broly. And they always downplay the z-fighters power in those movies as well as Broly's feats
I have never said such things... I always said M8 Broli is around Cell Games Goku and that M10 Broli isaround SSjin 2 Goku but of course I dont expect you to get what I say.. You are just spouting bulls***... You fit here perfectly....
Dude shut up, I don't even remember this conversation. Wanna come back over a week later.....
Can't tell what you are trying to say
I don't remember what you or I said and I'm not going to look it over, you decided to reply mad late.
You talked about me in the post I replied to you... As for the topic, like its not enough the Broli w***ing around... Now there is Kale w***ing... Lol... Kale is not stronger than SSB Goku... Goku states he would put more power than before... That alone proves he was not at full power... He was just suppressed.. Just look at his KHH vs Zamasu and see the difference... Against SSjin 3 Goku its unknown how she would fare though... However she was weaker than SSjin 2 Caulifla before the ToP... I would say she gets stronger by rage.... SSB Goku > SSjin Berserker Kale > SSjin 2 Goku
Nobody w***s Broly anymore, they just downplay, same with Kale. "More power" Yes, he was not at FP, know why? Cause kaioken x10 is full power, not SSB. His Khh against Zamasu? Again with the visual feats >.> Remember Cell's khh that eclipsed the sky? Mass does not equate to power. Weaker than SSJ2 Cauliflia how? cause she deflected a blast from kale meant to kill cabba
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People always trying to downplay Broly and Kale, ridiculous. He trashed the Z-fighters and Gohan fainted after his fight and had to try to resort to using lava. SSJ2 Goku couldn't hurt Kale and blue suppressed or not couldn't. Goku can read power levels, so there's no excuse for him to lose to Kale if he's stronger, period
No one downplays broly. We just dont over exaggerate his feats to the point of destroying galaxies and being able to beat people like super buu. Its only the broly fans that take facts as downplaying him.
No, Pakl, Vegito1089 and YTM are prime examples but I've seen others. Pakl says Buujin (Bojack henchman) or a cell jr could take m8 Broly and MSSJ Gohan could take m10 Broly. And they always downplay the z-fighters power in those movies as well as Broly's feats
I have never said such things... I always said M8 Broli is around Cell Games Goku and that M10 Broli isaround SSjin 2 Goku but of course I dont expect you to get what I say.. You are just spouting bulls***... You fit here perfectly....
Dude shut up, I don't even remember this conversation. Wanna come back over a week later.....
Can't tell what you are trying to say
I don't remember what you or I said and I'm not going to look it over, you decided to reply mad late.
You talked about me in the post I replied to you... As for the topic, like its not enough the Broli w***ing around... Now there is Kale w***ing... Lol... Kale is not stronger than SSB Goku... Goku states he would put more power than before... That alone proves he was not at full power... He was just suppressed.. Just look at his KHH vs Zamasu and see the difference... Against SSjin 3 Goku its unknown how she would fare though... However she was weaker than SSjin 2 Caulifla before the ToP... I would say she gets stronger by rage.... SSB Goku > SSjin Berserker Kale > SSjin 2 Goku
Nobody w***s Broly anymore, they just downplay, same with Kale. "More power" Yes, he was not at FP, know why? Cause kaioken x10 is full power, not SSB. His Khh against Zamasu? Again with the visual feats >.> Remember Cell's khh that eclipsed the sky? Mass does not equate to power. Weaker than SSJ2 Cauliflia how? She has weaker than SSjin 2 Caulifula before the tournament.. Caulifula deflected her blast without trouble... Kaioken has nothong to do with SSB.. Its a technique by its own... Goku saying he would put more power than SSjin 2 should prove he doesnt need to be at full power... SSB goku was shown to fight against Jiren in DB Heroes and the opening... Kale is nothing for them anyway.. Hit was not scared pf her either... She is not a god tier fighter and she gains strength by rage...
Also who downplays Broli? Most people nowadays put him at the level he is deserved...
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People always trying to downplay Broly and Kale, ridiculous. He trashed the Z-fighters and Gohan fainted after his fight and had to try to resort to using lava. SSJ2 Goku couldn't hurt Kale and blue suppressed or not couldn't. Goku can read power levels, so there's no excuse for him to lose to Kale if he's stronger, period
No one downplays broly. We just dont over exaggerate his feats to the point of destroying galaxies and being able to beat people like super buu. Its only the broly fans that take facts as downplaying him.
No, Pakl, Vegito1089 and YTM are prime examples but I've seen others. Pakl says Buujin (Bojack henchman) or a cell jr could take m8 Broly and MSSJ Gohan could take m10 Broly. And they always downplay the z-fighters power in those movies as well as Broly's feats
I have never said such things... I always said M8 Broli is around Cell Games Goku and that M10 Broli isaround SSjin 2 Goku but of course I dont expect you to get what I say.. You are just spouting bulls***... You fit here perfectly....
Dude shut up, I don't even remember this conversation. Wanna come back over a week later.....
Can't tell what you are trying to say
I don't remember what you or I said and I'm not going to look it over, you decided to reply mad late.
You talked about me in the post I replied to you... As for the topic, like its not enough the Broli w***ing around... Now there is Kale w***ing... Lol... Kale is not stronger than SSB Goku... Goku states he would put more power than before... That alone proves he was not at full power... He was just suppressed.. Just look at his KHH vs Zamasu and see the difference... Against SSjin 3 Goku its unknown how she would fare though... However she was weaker than SSjin 2 Caulifla before the ToP... I would say she gets stronger by rage.... SSB Goku > SSjin Berserker Kale > SSjin 2 Goku
Nobody w***s Broly anymore, they just downplay, same with Kale. "More power" Yes, he was not at FP, know why? Cause kaioken x10 is full power, not SSB. His Khh against Zamasu? Again with the visual feats >.> Remember Cell's khh that eclipsed the sky? Mass does not equate to power. Weaker than SSJ2 Cauliflia how?
cause she deflected a blast from kale meant to kill cabba And...? Deflecting a blast isn't the same as being stronger than your opponent.
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People always trying to downplay Broly and Kale, ridiculous. He trashed the Z-fighters and Gohan fainted after his fight and had to try to resort to using lava. SSJ2 Goku couldn't hurt Kale and blue suppressed or not couldn't. Goku can read power levels, so there's no excuse for him to lose to Kale if he's stronger, period
No one downplays broly. We just dont over exaggerate his feats to the point of destroying galaxies and being able to beat people like super buu. Its only the broly fans that take facts as downplaying him.
No, Pakl, Vegito1089 and YTM are prime examples but I've seen others. Pakl says Buujin (Bojack henchman) or a cell jr could take m8 Broly and MSSJ Gohan could take m10 Broly. And they always downplay the z-fighters power in those movies as well as Broly's feats
I have never said such things... I always said M8 Broli is around Cell Games Goku and that M10 Broli isaround SSjin 2 Goku but of course I dont expect you to get what I say.. You are just spouting bulls***... You fit here perfectly....
Dude shut up, I don't even remember this conversation. Wanna come back over a week later.....
Can't tell what you are trying to say
I don't remember what you or I said and I'm not going to look it over, you decided to reply mad late.
You talked about me in the post I replied to you... As for the topic, like its not enough the Broli w***ing around... Now there is Kale w***ing... Lol... Kale is not stronger than SSB Goku... Goku states he would put more power than before... That alone proves he was not at full power... He was just suppressed.. Just look at his KHH vs Zamasu and see the difference... Against SSjin 3 Goku its unknown how she would fare though... However she was weaker than SSjin 2 Caulifla before the ToP... I would say she gets stronger by rage.... SSB Goku > SSjin Berserker Kale > SSjin 2 Goku
Nobody w***s Broly anymore, they just downplay, same with Kale. "More power" Yes, he was not at FP, know why? Cause kaioken x10 is full power, not SSB. His Khh against Zamasu? Again with the visual feats >.> Remember Cell's khh that eclipsed the sky? Mass does not equate to power. Weaker than SSJ2 Cauliflia how?
She has weaker than SSjin 2 Caulifula before the tournament.. Caulifula deflected her blast without trouble... Kaioken has nothong to do with SSB.. Its a technique by its own... Goku saying he would put more power than SSjin 2 should prove he doesnt need to be at full power... SSB goku was shown to fight against Jiren in DB Heroes and the opening... Kale is nothing for them anyway.. Hit was not scared pf her either... She is not a god tier fighter and she gains strength by rage... Also who downplays Broli? Most people nowadays put him at the level he is deserved... People still put Broly Below the likes of Cell, Bojack and Dabura. Who said anything about blue? I'm talking about his full-power. What's his full-power? Regular SSB or SSB kkx10? Which is stronger? Hmm, tough one....
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No, Pakl, Vegito1089 and YTM are prime examples but I've seen others. Pakl says Buujin (Bojack henchman) or a cell jr could take m8 Broly and MSSJ Gohan could take m10 Broly. And they always downplay the z-fighters power in those movies as well as Broly's feats
I have never said such things... I always said M8 Broli is around Cell Games Goku and that M10 Broli isaround SSjin 2 Goku but of course I dont expect you to get what I say.. You are just spouting bulls***... You fit here perfectly....
Dude shut up, I don't even remember this conversation. Wanna come back over a week later.....
Can't tell what you are trying to say
I don't remember what you or I said and I'm not going to look it over, you decided to reply mad late.
You talked about me in the post I replied to you... As for the topic, like its not enough the Broli w***ing around... Now there is Kale w***ing... Lol... Kale is not stronger than SSB Goku... Goku states he would put more power than before... That alone proves he was not at full power... He was just suppressed.. Just look at his KHH vs Zamasu and see the difference... Against SSjin 3 Goku its unknown how she would fare though... However she was weaker than SSjin 2 Caulifla before the ToP... I would say she gets stronger by rage.... SSB Goku > SSjin Berserker Kale > SSjin 2 Goku
Nobody w***s Broly anymore, they just downplay, same with Kale. "More power" Yes, he was not at FP, know why? Cause kaioken x10 is full power, not SSB. His Khh against Zamasu? Again with the visual feats >.> Remember Cell's khh that eclipsed the sky? Mass does not equate to power. Weaker than SSJ2 Cauliflia how?
cause she deflected a blast from kale meant to kill cabba
And...? Deflecting a blast isn't the same as being stronger than your opponent. Thats something Cabba could not do.... Also it does mean strength wise
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No, Pakl, Vegito1089 and YTM are prime examples but I've seen others. Pakl says Buujin (Bojack henchman) or a cell jr could take m8 Broly and MSSJ Gohan could take m10 Broly. And they always downplay the z-fighters power in those movies as well as Broly's feats
I have never said such things... I always said M8 Broli is around Cell Games Goku and that M10 Broli isaround SSjin 2 Goku but of course I dont expect you to get what I say.. You are just spouting bulls***... You fit here perfectly....
Dude shut up, I don't even remember this conversation. Wanna come back over a week later.....
Can't tell what you are trying to say
I don't remember what you or I said and I'm not going to look it over, you decided to reply mad late.
You talked about me in the post I replied to you... As for the topic, like its not enough the Broli w***ing around... Now there is Kale w***ing... Lol... Kale is not stronger than SSB Goku... Goku states he would put more power than before... That alone proves he was not at full power... He was just suppressed.. Just look at his KHH vs Zamasu and see the difference... Against SSjin 3 Goku its unknown how she would fare though... However she was weaker than SSjin 2 Caulifla before the ToP... I would say she gets stronger by rage.... SSB Goku > SSjin Berserker Kale > SSjin 2 Goku
Nobody w***s Broly anymore, they just downplay, same with Kale. "More power" Yes, he was not at FP, know why? Cause kaioken x10 is full power, not SSB. His Khh against Zamasu? Again with the visual feats >.> Remember Cell's khh that eclipsed the sky? Mass does not equate to power. Weaker than SSJ2 Cauliflia how?
She has weaker than SSjin 2 Caulifula before the tournament.. Caulifula deflected her blast without trouble... Kaioken has nothong to do with SSB.. Its a technique by its own... Goku saying he would put more power than SSjin 2 should prove he doesnt need to be at full power... SSB goku was shown to fight against Jiren in DB Heroes and the opening... Kale is nothing for them anyway.. Hit was not scared pf her either... She is not a god tier fighter and she gains strength by rage... Also who downplays Broli? Most people nowadays put him at the level he is deserved...
People still put Broly Below the likes of Cell, Bojack and Dabura. Who said anything about blue? I'm talking about his full-power. What's his full-power? Regular SSB or SSB kkx10? Which is stronger? Hmm, tough one.... Lol... You need to be educated boy.... Kaioken is not related to his power... Its a technique which multiplies his power... For example in the Saiyan Saga Gokus suppressed state was 5,000 but his full power was over 8,000... Goku can be suppressed at blue... He clearly didnt put all of his power... You can see him use more power towards the end against Kale when she was about to grab him which means he was powering up little by little... Broli is indeed below Bojack and Cell in movie 8 but in movie 10 he is at least above SPC and aeound SSjin 2 Goku...
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I have never said such things... I always said M8 Broli is around Cell Games Goku and that M10 Broli isaround SSjin 2 Goku but of course I dont expect you to get what I say.. You are just spouting bulls***... You fit here perfectly....
Dude shut up, I don't even remember this conversation. Wanna come back over a week later.....
Can't tell what you are trying to say
I don't remember what you or I said and I'm not going to look it over, you decided to reply mad late.
You talked about me in the post I replied to you... As for the topic, like its not enough the Broli w***ing around... Now there is Kale w***ing... Lol... Kale is not stronger than SSB Goku... Goku states he would put more power than before... That alone proves he was not at full power... He was just suppressed.. Just look at his KHH vs Zamasu and see the difference... Against SSjin 3 Goku its unknown how she would fare though... However she was weaker than SSjin 2 Caulifla before the ToP... I would say she gets stronger by rage.... SSB Goku > SSjin Berserker Kale > SSjin 2 Goku
Nobody w***s Broly anymore, they just downplay, same with Kale. "More power" Yes, he was not at FP, know why? Cause kaioken x10 is full power, not SSB. His Khh against Zamasu? Again with the visual feats >.> Remember Cell's khh that eclipsed the sky? Mass does not equate to power. Weaker than SSJ2 Cauliflia how?
cause she deflected a blast from kale meant to kill cabba
And...? Deflecting a blast isn't the same as being stronger than your opponent.
Thats something Cabba could not do.... Also it does mean strength wise No it doesn't, Goku has deflected blasts from Beerus.
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Dude shut up, I don't even remember this conversation. Wanna come back over a week later.....
Can't tell what you are trying to say
I don't remember what you or I said and I'm not going to look it over, you decided to reply mad late.
You talked about me in the post I replied to you... As for the topic, like its not enough the Broli w***ing around... Now there is Kale w***ing... Lol... Kale is not stronger than SSB Goku... Goku states he would put more power than before... That alone proves he was not at full power... He was just suppressed.. Just look at his KHH vs Zamasu and see the difference... Against SSjin 3 Goku its unknown how she would fare though... However she was weaker than SSjin 2 Caulifla before the ToP... I would say she gets stronger by rage.... SSB Goku > SSjin Berserker Kale > SSjin 2 Goku
Nobody w***s Broly anymore, they just downplay, same with Kale. "More power" Yes, he was not at FP, know why? Cause kaioken x10 is full power, not SSB. His Khh against Zamasu? Again with the visual feats >.> Remember Cell's khh that eclipsed the sky? Mass does not equate to power. Weaker than SSJ2 Cauliflia how?
cause she deflected a blast from kale meant to kill cabba
And...? Deflecting a blast isn't the same as being stronger than your opponent.
Thats something Cabba could not do.... Also it does mean strength wise
No it doesn't, Goku has deflected blasts from Beerus. What blasts he deflected... Regardless the point was to show Caulifula did something Cabba could not so it means strength wise
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I have never said such things... I always said M8 Broli is around Cell Games Goku and that M10 Broli isaround SSjin 2 Goku but of course I dont expect you to get what I say.. You are just spouting bulls***... You fit here perfectly....
Dude shut up, I don't even remember this conversation. Wanna come back over a week later.....
Can't tell what you are trying to say
I don't remember what you or I said and I'm not going to look it over, you decided to reply mad late.
You talked about me in the post I replied to you... As for the topic, like its not enough the Broli w***ing around... Now there is Kale w***ing... Lol... Kale is not stronger than SSB Goku... Goku states he would put more power than before... That alone proves he was not at full power... He was just suppressed.. Just look at his KHH vs Zamasu and see the difference... Against SSjin 3 Goku its unknown how she would fare though... However she was weaker than SSjin 2 Caulifla before the ToP... I would say she gets stronger by rage.... SSB Goku > SSjin Berserker Kale > SSjin 2 Goku
Nobody w***s Broly anymore, they just downplay, same with Kale. "More power" Yes, he was not at FP, know why? Cause kaioken x10 is full power, not SSB. His Khh against Zamasu? Again with the visual feats >.> Remember Cell's khh that eclipsed the sky? Mass does not equate to power. Weaker than SSJ2 Cauliflia how?
She has weaker than SSjin 2 Caulifula before the tournament.. Caulifula deflected her blast without trouble... Kaioken has nothong to do with SSB.. Its a technique by its own... Goku saying he would put more power than SSjin 2 should prove he doesnt need to be at full power... SSB goku was shown to fight against Jiren in DB Heroes and the opening... Kale is nothing for them anyway.. Hit was not scared pf her either... She is not a god tier fighter and she gains strength by rage... Also who downplays Broli? Most people nowadays put him at the level he is deserved...
People still put Broly Below the likes of Cell, Bojack and Dabura. Who said anything about blue? I'm talking about his full-power. What's his full-power? Regular SSB or SSB kkx10? Which is stronger? Hmm, tough one....
Lol... You need to be educated boy.... Kaioken is not related to his power... Its a technique which multiplies his power... For example in the Saiyan Saga Gokus suppressed state was 5,000 but his full power was over 8,000... Goku can be suppressed at blue... He clearly didnt put all of his power... You can see him use more power towards the end against Kale when she was about to grab him which means he was powering up little by little... Broli is indeed below Bojack and Cell in movie 8 but in movie 10 he is at least above SPC and aeound SSjin 2 Goku... He beat MSSJs handily, Bojack fought MSSJ Gohan with his gang. Cell is closer to MSSJ if anything and SSJ2 is only a 2x multiplier. I understand what kaioken is, you're trying to come up with some weird technicality to argue that SSB kkx10 isn't his full power
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