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People always trying to downplay Broly and Kale, ridiculous. He trashed the Z-fighters and Gohan fainted after his fight and had to try to resort to using lava. SSJ2 Goku couldn't hurt Kale and blue suppressed or not couldn't. Goku can read power levels, so there's no excuse for him to lose to Kale if he's stronger, period
No one downplays broly. We just dont over exaggerate his feats to the point of destroying galaxies and being able to beat people like super buu. Its only the broly fans that take facts as downplaying him.
No, Pakl, Vegito1089 and YTM are prime examples but I've seen others. Pakl says Buujin (Bojack henchman) or a cell jr could take m8 Broly and MSSJ Gohan could take m10 Broly. And they always downplay the z-fighters power in those movies as well as Broly's feats I have never said such things... I always said M8 Broli is around Cell Games Goku and that M10 Broli isaround SSjin 2 Goku but of course I dont expect you to get what I say.. You are just spouting bulls***... You fit here perfectly....
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People always trying to downplay Broly and Kale, ridiculous. He trashed the Z-fighters and Gohan fainted after his fight and had to try to resort to using lava. SSJ2 Goku couldn't hurt Kale and blue suppressed or not couldn't. Goku can read power levels, so there's no excuse for him to lose to Kale if he's stronger, period
No one downplays broly. We just dont over exaggerate his feats to the point of destroying galaxies and being able to beat people like super buu. Its only the broly fans that take facts as downplaying him.
No, Pakl, Vegito1089 and YTM are prime examples but I've seen others. Pakl says Buujin (Bojack henchman) or a cell jr could take m8 Broly and MSSJ Gohan could take m10 Broly. And they always downplay the z-fighters power in those movies as well as Broly's feats
I have never said such things... I always said M8 Broli is around Cell Games Goku and that M10 Broli isaround SSjin 2 Goku but of course I dont expect you to get what I say.. You are just spouting bulls***... You fit here perfectly.... Dude shut up, I don't even remember this conversation. Wanna come back over a week later.....
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Aug 12 2017, 11:13 AM
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Kale is weak sauce compared to the real top guys. Goku can adjust Blue power output to any kind of level he wants, he could power down to be as strong as a regular human for what he cares. He was just testing her power and having fun, like always so far in this tournament.
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People always trying to downplay Broly and Kale, ridiculous. He trashed the Z-fighters and Gohan fainted after his fight and had to try to resort to using lava. SSJ2 Goku couldn't hurt Kale and blue suppressed or not couldn't. Goku can read power levels, so there's no excuse for him to lose to Kale if he's stronger, period
No one downplays broly. We just dont over exaggerate his feats to the point of destroying galaxies and being able to beat people like super buu. Its only the broly fans that take facts as downplaying him.
No, Pakl, Vegito1089 and YTM are prime examples but I've seen others. Pakl says Buujin (Bojack henchman) or a cell jr could take m8 Broly and MSSJ Gohan could take m10 Broly. And they always downplay the z-fighters power in those movies as well as Broly's feats
I have never said such things... I always said M8 Broli is around Cell Games Goku and that M10 Broli isaround SSjin 2 Goku but of course I dont expect you to get what I say.. You are just spouting bulls***... You fit here perfectly....
Dude shut up, I don't even remember this conversation. Wanna come back over a week later..... Can't tell what you are trying to say
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Kale is weak sauce compared to the real top guys. Goku can adjust Blue power output to any kind of level he wants, he could power down to be as strong as a regular human for what he cares. He was just testing her power and having fun, like always so far in this tournament.
He looked serious and ki control is a bs excuse. He can sense power levels so he shouldn't have been suppressed to a level weaker than Kale. And he can suppress himself in any SSJ form. They all have "ki control"
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People always trying to downplay Broly and Kale, ridiculous. He trashed the Z-fighters and Gohan fainted after his fight and had to try to resort to using lava. SSJ2 Goku couldn't hurt Kale and blue suppressed or not couldn't. Goku can read power levels, so there's no excuse for him to lose to Kale if he's stronger, period
No one downplays broly. We just dont over exaggerate his feats to the point of destroying galaxies and being able to beat people like super buu. Its only the broly fans that take facts as downplaying him.
No, Pakl, Vegito1089 and YTM are prime examples but I've seen others. Pakl says Buujin (Bojack henchman) or a cell jr could take m8 Broly and MSSJ Gohan could take m10 Broly. And they always downplay the z-fighters power in those movies as well as Broly's feats
I have never said such things... I always said M8 Broli is around Cell Games Goku and that M10 Broli isaround SSjin 2 Goku but of course I dont expect you to get what I say.. You are just spouting bulls***... You fit here perfectly....
Dude shut up, I don't even remember this conversation. Wanna come back over a week later.....
Can't tell what you are trying to say I don't remember what you or I said and I'm not going to look it over, you decided to reply mad late.
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Kale is weak sauce compared to the real top guys. Goku can adjust Blue power output to any kind of level he wants, he could power down to be as strong as a regular human for what he cares. He was just testing her power and having fun, like always so far in this tournament.
He looked serious and ki control is a bs excuse. He can sense power levels so he shouldn't have been suppressed to a level weaker than Kale. And he can suppress himself in any SSJ form. They all have "ki control" If Kale was > SSB Goku's Kamehameha, why didn't he use Kaioken?
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Kale is weak sauce compared to the real top guys. Goku can adjust Blue power output to any kind of level he wants, he could power down to be as strong as a regular human for what he cares. He was just testing her power and having fun, like always so far in this tournament.
He looked serious and ki control is a bs excuse. He can sense power levels so he shouldn't have been suppressed to a level weaker than Kale. And he can suppress himself in any SSJ form. They all have "ki control"
If Kale was > SSB Goku's Kamehameha, why didn't he use Kaioken? Why'd he use blue if he "didn't need it" and why'd he "hold back" if he was losing?
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Kale is weak sauce compared to the real top guys. Goku can adjust Blue power output to any kind of level he wants, he could power down to be as strong as a regular human for what he cares. He was just testing her power and having fun, like always so far in this tournament.
He looked serious and ki control is a bs excuse. He can sense power levels so he shouldn't have been suppressed to a level weaker than Kale. And he can suppress himself in any SSJ form. They all have "ki control"
If Kale was > SSB Goku's Kamehameha, why didn't he use Kaioken?
Why'd he use blue if he "didn't need it" and why'd he "hold back" if he was losing? Because SSJ3 is too draining compared to Blue, and he didn't anticipate Kale's durability. He broke out of her grip as a SSJ2 but couldn't as a SSB, implies that it was more effort to break out than just take the hits that didn't damage him at all.
And again, if you think he was full power, why didn't he use Kaioken?
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Kale is weak sauce compared to the real top guys. Goku can adjust Blue power output to any kind of level he wants, he could power down to be as strong as a regular human for what he cares. He was just testing her power and having fun, like always so far in this tournament.
He looked serious and ki control is a bs excuse. He can sense power levels so he shouldn't have been suppressed to a level weaker than Kale. And he can suppress himself in any SSJ form. They all have "ki control"
If Kale was > SSB Goku's Kamehameha, why didn't he use Kaioken?
Why'd he use blue if he "didn't need it" and why'd he "hold back" if he was losing?
Because SSJ3 is too draining compared to Blue, and he didn't anticipate Kale's durability. He broke out of her grip as a SSJ2 but couldn't as a SSB, implies that it was more effort to break out than just take the hits that didn't damage him at all. And again, if you think he was full power, why didn't he use Kaioken? The durability thing is head-canon. Power and durability have never been shown to be different. Also she knocked him out of blue. How long would he need to use SSJ3? He fought Kid Buu in it for a long time and that was years ago. To be fair, he could've whipped out kaioken alot of times in the series but didn't. Cell, Buu, Zamasu and Black, Beerus, etc.
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Kale is weak sauce compared to the real top guys. Goku can adjust Blue power output to any kind of level he wants, he could power down to be as strong as a regular human for what he cares. He was just testing her power and having fun, like always so far in this tournament.
He looked serious and ki control is a bs excuse. He can sense power levels so he shouldn't have been suppressed to a level weaker than Kale. And he can suppress himself in any SSJ form. They all have "ki control"
Of course, he was so serious that he said: "I am going to use a little bit more of power" before going Blue. So serious that, at the end of Episode 101, he flat out told Kale and Cauli to become stronger so he can fight them properly next time. So serious that he doesn't even have a scratch on his clothes.
Goku's real target is Jiren, and he know very well thanks to Toppo that Jiren is stronger than even his SSB + KK form. Still, as Goku replied to Toppo in the occasion of the Zeno exibition match, SSB + KK was not his limit, as he was going to power up even more before the Grand Priest interrupted the match. THAT is Goku being serious and everybody and their moms know that Goku is saving his "seriousness" for Jiren, the same Jiren who oneshotted weak a*** Kale with a generic ki blast.
But of course, SSB is not stronger than Ssj2 and Goku was bloodlusted and going all out against weak souce Kale.
Also, no, he cannot suppress himself with any form of Ssj: nobody ever suppressed himself when going Ssj3, for example, not Goku nor Gotenks, as it is an incredibly power intensive form. SSB, on the other hand, can go from being incredibly below Ssj3 (sparring with Kuririn) to make a Ssj3 look like an insignificant ant (serious and serious + KK). Just like FP Ssj, but with God ki.
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Kale is weak sauce compared to the real top guys. Goku can adjust Blue power output to any kind of level he wants, he could power down to be as strong as a regular human for what he cares. He was just testing her power and having fun, like always so far in this tournament.
He looked serious and ki control is a bs excuse. He can sense power levels so he shouldn't have been suppressed to a level weaker than Kale. And he can suppress himself in any SSJ form. They all have "ki control"
Of course, he was so serious that he said: "I am going to use a little bit more of power" before going Blue. So serious that, at the end of Episode 101, he flat out told Kale and Cauli to become stronger so he can fight them properly next time. So serious that he doesn't even have a scratch on his clothes. Goku's real target is Jiren, and he know very well thanks to Toppo that Jiren is stronger than even his SSB + KK form. Still, as Goku replied to Toppo in the occasion of the Zeno exibition match, SSB + KK was not his limit, as he was going to power up even more before the Grand Priest interrupted the match. THAT is Goku being serious and everybody and their moms know that Goku is saving his "seriousness" for Jiren, the same Jiren who oneshotted weak a*** Kale with a generic ki blast. But of course, SSB is not stronger than Ssj2 and Goku was bloodlusted and going all out against weak souce Kale. Also, no, he cannot suppress himself with any form of Ssj: nobody ever suppressed himself when going Ssj3, for example, not Goku nor Gotenks, as it is an incredibly power intensive form. SSB, on the other hand, can go from being incredibly below Ssj3 (sparring with Kuririn) to make a Ssj3 look like an insignificant ant (serious and serious + KK). Just like FP Ssj, but with God ki. Could be referring to the fact that he's not going kaioken. The scratches thing is a lame argument, she knocked him out of SSB. He was losing to Kale, if he's suppressed than that should warrant him having scratches as he couldn't do jacksh*t to her. "Properly" Yeah, no sh*t Kale raged against him. We know SSB and MSSJ can suppress power, I have no idea why SSJ2 or SSJ3 wouldn't be able to, that just sounds like nonsense to me.
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Kale is weak sauce compared to the real top guys. Goku can adjust Blue power output to any kind of level he wants, he could power down to be as strong as a regular human for what he cares. He was just testing her power and having fun, like always so far in this tournament.
He looked serious and ki control is a bs excuse. He can sense power levels so he shouldn't have been suppressed to a level weaker than Kale. And he can suppress himself in any SSJ form. They all have "ki control"
Of course, he was so serious that he said: "I am going to use a little bit more of power" before going Blue. So serious that, at the end of Episode 101, he flat out told Kale and Cauli to become stronger so he can fight them properly next time. So serious that he doesn't even have a scratch on his clothes. Goku's real target is Jiren, and he know very well thanks to Toppo that Jiren is stronger than even his SSB + KK form. Still, as Goku replied to Toppo in the occasion of the Zeno exibition match, SSB + KK was not his limit, as he was going to power up even more before the Grand Priest interrupted the match. THAT is Goku being serious and everybody and their moms know that Goku is saving his "seriousness" for Jiren, the same Jiren who oneshotted weak a*** Kale with a generic ki blast. But of course, SSB is not stronger than Ssj2 and Goku was bloodlusted and going all out against weak souce Kale. Also, no, he cannot suppress himself with any form of Ssj: nobody ever suppressed himself when going Ssj3, for example, not Goku nor Gotenks, as it is an incredibly power intensive form. SSB, on the other hand, can go from being incredibly below Ssj3 (sparring with Kuririn) to make a Ssj3 look like an insignificant ant (serious and serious + KK). Just like FP Ssj, but with God ki.
Could be referring to the fact that he's not going kaioken. The scratches thing is a lame argument, she knocked him out of SSB. He was losing to Kale, if he's suppressed than that should warrant him having scratches as he couldn't do jacksh*t to her. "Properly" Yeah, no sh*t Kale raged against him. We know SSB and MSSJ can suppress power, I have no idea why SSJ2 or SSJ3 wouldn't be able to, that just sounds like nonsense to me. Also he didn't even power-up for Jiren. He was about to fight him in base and in the intro he fights him in base so again it's a moot point.
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Kale is weak sauce compared to the real top guys. Goku can adjust Blue power output to any kind of level he wants, he could power down to be as strong as a regular human for what he cares. He was just testing her power and having fun, like always so far in this tournament.
He looked serious and ki control is a bs excuse. He can sense power levels so he shouldn't have been suppressed to a level weaker than Kale. And he can suppress himself in any SSJ form. They all have "ki control"
Of course, he was so serious that he said: "I am going to use a little bit more of power" before going Blue. So serious that, at the end of Episode 101, he flat out told Kale and Cauli to become stronger so he can fight them properly next time. So serious that he doesn't even have a scratch on his clothes. Goku's real target is Jiren, and he know very well thanks to Toppo that Jiren is stronger than even his SSB + KK form. Still, as Goku replied to Toppo in the occasion of the Zeno exibition match, SSB + KK was not his limit, as he was going to power up even more before the Grand Priest interrupted the match. THAT is Goku being serious and everybody and their moms know that Goku is saving his "seriousness" for Jiren, the same Jiren who oneshotted weak a*** Kale with a generic ki blast. But of course, SSB is not stronger than Ssj2 and Goku was bloodlusted and going all out against weak souce Kale. Also, no, he cannot suppress himself with any form of Ssj: nobody ever suppressed himself when going Ssj3, for example, not Goku nor Gotenks, as it is an incredibly power intensive form. SSB, on the other hand, can go from being incredibly below Ssj3 (sparring with Kuririn) to make a Ssj3 look like an insignificant ant (serious and serious + KK). Just like FP Ssj, but with God ki.
Could be referring to the fact that he's not going kaioken. The scratches thing is a lame argument, she knocked him out of SSB. He was losing to Kale, if he's suppressed than that should warrant him having scratches as he couldn't do jacksh*t to her. "Properly" Yeah, no sh*t Kale raged against him. We know SSB and MSSJ can suppress power, I have no idea why SSJ2 or SSJ3 wouldn't be able to, that just sounds like nonsense to me. You've never once proven she knocked him out of blue so stop saying and just let this s*** doe already.
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Kale is weak sauce compared to the real top guys. Goku can adjust Blue power output to any kind of level he wants, he could power down to be as strong as a regular human for what he cares. He was just testing her power and having fun, like always so far in this tournament.
He looked serious and ki control is a bs excuse. He can sense power levels so he shouldn't have been suppressed to a level weaker than Kale. And he can suppress himself in any SSJ form. They all have "ki control"
Of course, he was so serious that he said: "I am going to use a little bit more of power" before going Blue. So serious that, at the end of Episode 101, he flat out told Kale and Cauli to become stronger so he can fight them properly next time. So serious that he doesn't even have a scratch on his clothes. Goku's real target is Jiren, and he know very well thanks to Toppo that Jiren is stronger than even his SSB + KK form. Still, as Goku replied to Toppo in the occasion of the Zeno exibition match, SSB + KK was not his limit, as he was going to power up even more before the Grand Priest interrupted the match. THAT is Goku being serious and everybody and their moms know that Goku is saving his "seriousness" for Jiren, the same Jiren who oneshotted weak a*** Kale with a generic ki blast. But of course, SSB is not stronger than Ssj2 and Goku was bloodlusted and going all out against weak souce Kale. Also, no, he cannot suppress himself with any form of Ssj: nobody ever suppressed himself when going Ssj3, for example, not Goku nor Gotenks, as it is an incredibly power intensive form. SSB, on the other hand, can go from being incredibly below Ssj3 (sparring with Kuririn) to make a Ssj3 look like an insignificant ant (serious and serious + KK). Just like FP Ssj, but with God ki.
Could be referring to the fact that he's not going kaioken. The scratches thing is a lame argument, she knocked him out of SSB. He was losing to Kale, if he's suppressed than that should warrant him having scratches as he couldn't do jacksh*t to her. "Properly" Yeah, no sh*t Kale raged against him. We know SSB and MSSJ can suppress power, I have no idea why SSJ2 or SSJ3 wouldn't be able to, that just sounds like nonsense to me.
You've never once proven she knocked him out of blue so stop saying and just let this s*** doe already. He came out the rubble, a few scenes later in base
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