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Where do you place Kale in terms of power?
Topic Started: Jul 23 2017, 06:57 PM (18,959 Views)
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Jul 28 2017, 05:58 AM
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Kale is probably stronger than SS3. Vegeta mentions something about it being a Super Saiyan's true form, and since 3 is the strongest natural SS (SSG and Blue are forced transformations attained through rituals or training with gods, it's not naturally attainable by Saiyans) I could see Kale surpassing the long haired form.
I dont think vegeta ment sayains true form as in the race's true form. But more towards kales real power.
"Be careful kakarot, this is Kale's true form" wtf? Lol
1. Vegeta dose not know her name.
2. This is the sayains true form not ssjs true form.
3. If he knew about the true form of ssj why did he keep it hidden all these years. Why did he call ssj the legendary form if this was it.

You know dont answer those i already know your answer.
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Unpopular opinion incoming (I'm assuming):

For me, Kale's durability FAR FAR outweighs her power (which I actually really liked). From a durability standpoint; she's probably around the SSJB tier (given she walks through a SSJB Kamehameha). Strength wise; she's likely a little below SSJ2 Califia and Goku (given that she wasn't able to cause as much visible/lasting damage to Goku as Califia did as well as Califia casually knocking away one of her blasts previously). She was able to almost accidentally knock her off the arena strictly because she was caught off guard.
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Jul 28 2017, 04:12 PM
Unpopular opinion incoming (I'm assuming):

For me, Kale's durability FAR FAR outweighs her power (which I actually really liked). From a durability standpoint; she's probably around the SSJB tier (given she walks through a SSJB Kamehameha). Strength wise; she's likely a little below SSJ2 Califia and Goku (given that she wasn't able to cause as much visible/lasting damage to Goku as Califia did as well as Califia casually knocking away one of her blasts previously). She was able to almost accidentally knock her off the arena strictly because she was caught off guard.
In the versus section you will see me talking about broly and how his and her forms durability are superior then there strength. Tho i only have broly feats to go off of at the moment.
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This is what i got so far:

Ssj = 50 X base

Fpssj = 50 X base

Ssj2 = 2 X ssj

Ssj3 = 4 X ssj2

Beserker ssj = 2 X ssj3

Ssjb = 150 X Beserker ssj
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People always trying to downplay Broly and Kale, ridiculous. He trashed the Z-fighters and Gohan fainted after his fight and had to try to resort to using lava. SSJ2 Goku couldn't hurt Kale and blue suppressed or not couldn't. Goku can read power levels, so there's no excuse for him to lose to Kale if he's stronger, period
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People always trying to downplay Broly and Kale, ridiculous. He trashed the Z-fighters and Gohan fainted after his fight and had to try to resort to using lava. SSJ2 Goku couldn't hurt Kale and blue suppressed or not couldn't. Goku can read power levels, so there's no excuse for him to lose to Kale if he's stronger, period
No one downplays broly. We just dont over exaggerate his feats to the point of destroying galaxies and being able to beat people like super buu. Its only the broly fans that take facts as downplaying him.
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If Goku so easily gauged her power, why didn't he jump to Blue from the start? He instead chose to continue the fight as a SS2.
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For people who think Kale is ssjb level, she might be but remember when Vegeta smacked Beerus around? Was he on Beerus' level?
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Jul 29 2017, 05:47 PM
For people who think Kale is ssjb level, she might be but remember when Vegeta smacked Beerus around? Was he on Beerus' level?
Of course, but only at his self proclaimed "10%" level. Just cause Vegeta did better doesn't mean he's on his general level, he's fodder. Goku however could sense Kale, when back then only Dende did so no one could tell if he had a advantage other then by watching the fighting (which Beerus shoots down by oneshotting him).
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Jiren oneshotted Kale to shoot her down, Goku is now going to fight Jiren. and he doesn't seem worried.
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People always trying to downplay Broly and Kale, ridiculous. He trashed the Z-fighters and Gohan fainted after his fight and had to try to resort to using lava. SSJ2 Goku couldn't hurt Kale and blue suppressed or not couldn't. Goku can read power levels, so there's no excuse for him to lose to Kale if he's stronger, period
No one downplays broly. We just dont over exaggerate his feats to the point of destroying galaxies and being able to beat people like super buu. Its only the broly fans that take facts as downplaying him.
No, Pakl, Vegito1089 and YTM are prime examples but I've seen others. Pakl says Buujin (Bojack henchman) or a cell jr could take m8 Broly and MSSJ Gohan could take m10 Broly. And they always downplay the z-fighters power in those movies as well as Broly's feats
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People always trying to downplay Broly and Kale, ridiculous. He trashed the Z-fighters and Gohan fainted after his fight and had to try to resort to using lava. SSJ2 Goku couldn't hurt Kale and blue suppressed or not couldn't. Goku can read power levels, so there's no excuse for him to lose to Kale if he's stronger, period
No one downplays broly. We just dont over exaggerate his feats to the point of destroying galaxies and being able to beat people like super buu. Its only the broly fans that take facts as downplaying him.
No, Pakl, Vegito1089 and YTM are prime examples but I've seen others. Pakl says Buujin (Bojack henchman) or a cell jr could take m8 Broly and MSSJ Gohan could take m10 Broly. And they always downplay the z-fighters power in those movies as well as Broly's feats
Some people i dont think ive ever seen on here. But if thats what they said then yes they are wrong.
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Jul 29 2017, 06:39 PM
Jiren oneshotted Kale to shoot her down, Goku is now going to fight Jiren. and he doesn't seem worried.
Like what is shown:

Jiren >>> SSJBerserk Kale (post-power up) >>> SSJBerserk Kale (@God Kamehameha) >>> SSJBlue Goku (suppressed) -289 thousand gap- SSJBerserk Kale (Initial) >~ SSJ3 Goku >>> SSJ2 Goku
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People always trying to downplay Broly and Kale, ridiculous. He trashed the Z-fighters and Gohan fainted after his fight and had to try to resort to using lava. SSJ2 Goku couldn't hurt Kale and blue suppressed or not couldn't. Goku can read power levels, so there's no excuse for him to lose to Kale if he's stronger, period
No one downplays broly. We just dont over exaggerate his feats to the point of destroying galaxies and being able to beat people like super buu. Its only the broly fans that take facts as downplaying him.
No, Pakl, Vegito1089 and YTM are prime examples but I've seen others. Pakl says Buujin (Bojack henchman) or a cell jr could take m8 Broly and MSSJ Gohan could take m10 Broly. And they always downplay the z-fighters power in those movies as well as Broly's feats
Can you not say 'Paki' please. It's horrible.
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Jul 28 2017, 07:59 PM
People always trying to downplay Broly and Kale, ridiculous. He trashed the Z-fighters and Gohan fainted after his fight and had to try to resort to using lava. SSJ2 Goku couldn't hurt Kale and blue suppressed or not couldn't. Goku can read power levels, so there's no excuse for him to lose to Kale if he's stronger, period
No one downplays broly. We just dont over exaggerate his feats to the point of destroying galaxies and being able to beat people like super buu. Its only the broly fans that take facts as downplaying him.
No, Pakl, Vegito1089 and YTM are prime examples but I've seen others. Pakl says Buujin (Bojack henchman) or a cell jr could take m8 Broly and MSSJ Gohan could take m10 Broly. And they always downplay the z-fighters power in those movies as well as Broly's feats
Can you not say 'Paki' please. It's horrible.
It's Pakl. He's an old troll from years past.
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