PikUpYourPantsPatrol

Jul 23 2017, 06:55 PM

It seems like a convenient excuse, especially when if that was the case he could be using weaker forms. Especially when people say some s*** like "He was in blue but suppressed to SSJ2 level" like what kind of lame bs is that

Pyrus

Jul 23 2017, 07:18 PM

PikUpYourPantsPatrol

Jul 23 2017, 06:55 PM

It seems like a convenient excuse, especially when if that was the case he could be using weaker forms. Especially when people say some s*** like "He was in blue but suppressed to SSJ2 level" like what kind of lame bs is that

It's not "lame BS" when it makes more sense than the other possibility. There's more to the fight than just Goku using Blue in the first place, like context. When the Goku and Krillin fight first came out, people (including me) were tossing their salads at how stupid it was, totally ignoring the fact that Goku didn't need Blue at all. If we simply go about it your way and take everything at face value, then yeah, Krillin would have to be Super Saiyan Blue level just for the fact, but considering that's not supported by anything else shown, it makes little sense to pursue that route. Goku may not have intended to use Blue against #17, but he did admit he was holding back, so we know he can still alter his output in the form, which would make complete sense given the form is supposed to exhibit perfect ki control. So why is it impossible for Goku use Blue and only be operating at Super Saiyan 2 level?

PikUpYourPantsPatrol

Jul 23 2017, 07:42 PM

Pyrus

Jul 23 2017, 07:18 PM

PikUpYourPantsPatrol

Jul 23 2017, 06:55 PM

It seems like a convenient excuse, especially when if that was the case he could be using weaker forms. Especially when people say some s*** like "He was in blue but suppressed to SSJ2 level" like what kind of lame bs is that

It's not "lame BS" when it makes more sense than the other possibility. There's more to the fight than just Goku using Blue in the first place, like context. When the Goku and Krillin fight first came out, people (including me) were tossing their salads at how stupid it was, totally ignoring the fact that Goku didn't need Blue at all. If we simply go about it your way and take everything at face value, then yeah, Krillin would have to be Super Saiyan Blue level just for the fact, but considering that's not supported by anything else shown, it makes little sense to pursue that route. Goku may not have intended to use Blue against #17, but he did admit he was holding back, so we know he can still alter his output in the form, which would make complete sense given the form is supposed to exhibit perfect ki control. So why is it impossible for Goku use Blue and only be operating at Super Saiyan 2 level?

That's a bad example cause Krillin cant keep up with regular SSJ and #18 had to intervene. Kale and #17 proved that they're far above SSJ2 and the holding back against #17 thing is a moot point since #17 was holding back too. Goku even said against #17 that he didn't intend to use Blue. So at the very least #17 is far ahead of SSJ3. If Blue could take Kale you'd think he'd break free of her grip.

ThePrinceOfSaiyans

Jul 23 2017, 08:58 PM

"Kuririn is close to as strong as Goku because he held back one of Blue Goku's Kamehamehas" is infinitely more absurd than "Oh, Goku's simply holding back, his blue form has perfect Ki control after all."

PikUpYourPantsPatrol

Jul 23 2017, 09:12 PM

ThePrinceOfSaiyans

Jul 23 2017, 08:58 PM

"Kuririn is close to as strong as Goku because he held back one of Blue Goku's Kamehamehas" is infinitely more absurd than "Oh, Goku's simply holding back, his blue form has perfect Ki control after all."

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