Tournament power levels

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Tournament power levels
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superperfectnerd	Jul 23 2017, 05:06 PM Post #1
Posts: 3,709 Group: Member Member #11,519 Joined: July 15, 2014	Power levels for the major players in the tournament so far, feel free to disagree. Goku = 1 060 000 000 (Bulma becomes visibly pregnant and near childbirth in this gap, Goku had time to catch up with and surpass Vegeta as Vegeta was more concerned with looking after Bulma) Goku KKX10 = 10 600 000 000 Goku fpssj = 53 000 000 000 Goku ssj2 = 106 000 000 000 Goku ssj3 = 424 000 000 000 Goku ssjb = 127 200 000 000 000 Goku ssjbKKX10 = 1 272 000 000 000 000 Vegeta (post ROSAT) = 1 060 000 000 Vegeta fpssj (post ROSAT) = 53 000 000 000 Vegeta ssj2 (post ROSAT) = 106 000 000 000 Vegeta ssjb (post ROSAT) = 127 200 000 000 000 True form Freeza = 42 400 000 000 000 True Golden Freeza = 127 200 000 000 000 Gohan = 850 000 000 Gohan fpssj = 42 500 000 000 Gohan ssj2 = 85 000 000 000 'Ultimate' Gohan = 1 575 000 000 000 True 'Ultimate' Gohan = 102 000 000 000 000 (Piccolo teaches Gohan that there's much more to his hidden power than he was even using back against Super Boo and that he's still subconsciously suppressing it, Piccolo uses those hours to first reawaken it and then draw it out) Android 17 = 102 000 000 000 000 (17 started training after hearing the Earth was destroyed by Boo because he knew Goku wasn't always going to save everyone, he's an android so I guess he doesn't need to breathe? He can fly into space and train in unique ways like breaking commits with his face or something, he couldn't sense Berrus so didn't intervene back then) Piccolo = 106 000 000 000 Android 18 = 85 000 000 000 Krillin = 640 000 000 Tien = 480 000 000 Master Roshi = 180 000 000 Master Roshi Buff = 360 000 000 Hit = 61 500 000 000 000 (his full power is weaker than the likes of ssjb Goku and Vegeta but thanks to his time skip he can compete, he is a master of 1000 years so I don't think he can train to get much stronger, only 'improve' by fighting opponents stronger than himself, which he didn't know he could do until fighting Goku) True form Frost = 31 800 000 000 000 (training whilst on the run because he knew he was being hunted, like Freeza he had not trained before although was stronger than Freeza from Namek because Frost had to fight his own enemies rather than have henchmen to do it) Kale = 640 000 000 Kale Beserker = 512 000 000 000 Caulifla = 850 000 000 Caulifla fpssj = 42 500 000 000 Caulifla ssj2 = 85 000 000 000 Cabba = 850 000 000 Cabba fpssj = 42 500 000 000 Magetta = 42 500 000 000 Bottomo = 850 000 000 Toppo = 102 000 000 000 000 Bergamo = 850 000 000 (Bergamo only a real threat from absorbing ki from others) Lavender = 640 000 000 Basil = 640 000 000 Edited by superperfectnerd, Jul 26 2017, 11:28 PM.



+ Son-Goku	Jul 23 2017, 06:31 PM Post #2
孫悟空 Posts: 13,358 Group: Elite Member Member #12,886 Joined: January 24, 2016 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime DB/DBZ/DBS, Code Geass, Gintama, YYH, Death Note, and SAO. What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga Dragon Ball, Fairy Tail, and Naruto.	I don't think anyone can be wrong with power levels when it comes to this tournament lol. Unless you really screw up. I can't remember Goku vs Gohan very well. But didn't Goku beat Gohan pretty easily after he used Kaioken? Kale might actually be weaker in her base form. She punched that one guy in the face and did nothing. Of course it could mean she didn't put enough power into it since she is such a passive person.
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superperfectnerd	Jul 23 2017, 08:39 PM Post #3
Posts: 3,709 Group: Member Member #11,519 Joined: July 15, 2014	Yeah bet Gohan seemed to be competing with blue before and I can't see 17 being vastly beyond Gohan. I think Kale is just more scared than weak. This is my best effort to scale with what we've been given.



Notaka	Jul 23 2017, 09:12 PM Post #4
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superperfectnerd	Jul 23 2017, 09:15 PM Post #5
Posts: 3,709 Group: Member Member #11,519 Joined: July 15, 2014	Notaka Jul 23 2017, 09:12 PM I'm curious, Do you have Namek SSJ Goku at 150,000,000 ? Yeah, the humans have surpassed him back then, I think it's fair for them to be there now. I have Krillin about equal to first trip post ROSAT ssj Vegeta in the android arc. Edited by superperfectnerd, Jul 23 2017, 09:16 PM.



+ Son-Goku	Jul 23 2017, 09:41 PM Post #6
孫悟空 Posts: 13,358 Group: Elite Member Member #12,886 Joined: January 24, 2016 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime DB/DBZ/DBS, Code Geass, Gintama, YYH, Death Note, and SAO. What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga Dragon Ball, Fairy Tail, and Naruto.	superperfectnerd Jul 23 2017, 08:39 PM Yeah bet Gohan seemed to be competing with blue before and I can't see 17 being vastly beyond Gohan. I think Kale is just more scared than weak. This is my best effort to scale with what we've been given. It's fine to have #17 low imo. A Super writer was saying that they only had Goku go Blue to measure the other fighter's powers, not that they were at that level. The guy that said that was specifically the writer for that episode. Gohan should be the only one around Blue Goku and obviously Vegeta.
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superperfectnerd	Jul 23 2017, 10:04 PM Post #7
Posts: 3,709 Group: Member Member #11,519 Joined: July 15, 2014	Another writer said they had 17 = Gohan so who knows?



Zoom	Jul 24 2017, 12:01 AM Post #8
Posts: 3,426 Group: Member Member #12,146 Joined: March 16, 2015 Gender Male	Super writer, Toshio YOs***AKA helped answered some fan questions about power.



superperfectnerd	Jul 24 2017, 03:23 PM Post #9
Posts: 3,709 Group: Member Member #11,519 Joined: July 15, 2014	Yeah and I feel none the wiser really.



PocketGod	Jul 24 2017, 04:02 PM Post #10
Posts: 1,668 Group: Member Member #12,574 Joined: August 22, 2015 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Yowamushi Pedal What Browser do you use? Firefox Favourite Manga Berserk	Goku ssjb = 120 000 000 000 000 Kale Beserker = 512 000 000 000
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Thiln	Jul 24 2017, 04:52 PM Post #11
Posts: 2,481 Group: Member Member #12,166 Joined: March 23, 2015 Gender Male Favourite Anime Dragon Ball, Attack on Titan What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga Hokuto no Ken, Berserk, Dragon Ball, Rurouni Kenshin, Attack on Titan, Kuroshitsuji	You know something? I don't know how this makes sense, but perhaps we could place the humans relatively close to the Base Saiyans? Roshi was holding his own quite effectively against Goku. Goodness knows how much stronger Krillin and Tien could be. The former did compel Goku into transforming to SSJ1 when they first fought on the rooftop. Furthermore, he avoided a Ki projectile shot by SSJ Goku. #17's estimate doesn't sit well with me no matter how long I try to reconcile with it. He should not be glancing the same general spectrum as the SSJBs. Putting him above the Super Saiyans would be generous enough. This decision to refocus him seems to have been born out of personal favouritism courtesy of Toriyama. A lot of other estimates were posted but the ones I'm most interested in are the humans and Piccolo. Do you want to know what the tragedy is in these numbers? All of the previously mentioned Z-fighters could, in theory, bypass the Super Saiyans, or at least rival them, if the studio and/or Toriyama would finally realise the obvious learnable power of Kaioken and offer it to them. Seriously, let's put some numbers to these amplifiers. Krillin: 640,000,000 x Kaioken 10 = 6,400,000,000 or 640,000,000 x Kaioken 20 = 12,800,000,000 Result: Krillin is now more powerful than the Base Saiyans for certain. If we took it one step further by having the humans and Piccolo fortify the amplifier by raising to a maximum of x100, which already has a substantive precedent for being thought of in one movie, the total for Krillin would come out to 64,000,000,000. Now he's certifiably more powerful than even the Super Saiyans. Tien: 480,000,000 x Kaioken 10 = 4,800,000,000 or 480,000,000 x Kaioken 20 = 9,600,000,000 Result: Not quite as strong as Krillin, but he still passes up the Base Saiyans. Similar to Krillin, let's multiply his power level by a hypothetical amplifier of x100. 480,000,000 x 100 = 48,000,000,000. He comes up just shy of the Super Saiyans, but it's still a commendable position to be in. Piccolo: 106,000,000,000 x 10 = 1,600,000,000,000 or 106,000,000,000 x 20 = 3,200,000,000,000 Result: Nothing short of SSJB would enable the Saiyans to overpower Piccolo. Bear in mind, this is Piccolo with no God Ki of his own. Could you imagine him with God Ki? Let's multiply his listed power level with Kaioken x100 now. 106,000,000,000 x 100 = 16,000,000,000,000. Starting to glance the same spectrum as the SSJBs. Edited by Thiln, Jul 24 2017, 04:54 PM.



superperfectnerd	Jul 24 2017, 05:42 PM Post #12
Posts: 3,709 Group: Member Member #11,519 Joined: July 15, 2014	I've got the humans close to the base saiyans, remember Gohan before he rediscovered his 'ultimate' state proved himself at least physically superior to Krillin in base but Krillin's technique gave him a chance. So Krillin is 3/4 base Gohan and Tien and Roshi are 3/4 Krillin with Roshi undergoing more strain in his buff form than Tien. I've always thought the humans and Piccolo should have kaioken, Piccolo could use it more effectively as well thanks to his regeneration and Majin Boo would be an absolute monster with Kaioken.



+ Pyrus	Jul 24 2017, 06:58 PM Post #13
Posts: 39,342 Group: Legend Member #5,088 Joined: August 1, 2010 Gender Not Specified Country Chile	Who said 17 = Gohan? I don't remember seeing that.
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superperfectnerd	Jul 24 2017, 11:17 PM Post #14
Posts: 3,709 Group: Member Member #11,519 Joined: July 15, 2014	"This is totally my own point of view. Gohan = No.17>Frost>Piccolo" - Toshio Yos*aka Edited by superperfectnerd**, Jul 24 2017, 11:20 PM.



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