Beerus vs goku and beerus vs whis gaps

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Beerus vs goku and beerus vs whis gaps
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+ Ssj3vegito96	Jul 18 2017, 04:46 PM Post #1
Posts: 10,327 Group: Elite Member Member #10,438 Joined: November 2, 2013 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Dragon ball/Z/GT/S, Fullmetal Alchemist:Brotherhood, One Punch Man Favourite Manga DB/Z/S	I think Seththeprogrammer made a good point in one of his new videos The power scale that toriyama made in an interview after the BOG movie came out has been retconned and I think most of us know that. The scale was goku being a 6, beerus 10, and whis 15. But regardless of the exact numbers, toriyama's intention was that there's an even bigger gap between beerus and whis than there is between goku and beerus Do you think that intention was retconned too or do you think it fits and is still in Super? If it does then man the Angels are scary strong. Once they reach beerus' level it'll be like surpassing him all over again and more. That's crazy Edited by Ssj3vegito96, Jul 18 2017, 04:51 PM.
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Slifer	Jul 18 2017, 04:50 PM Post #2
Posts: 3,488 Group: Member Member #10,141 Joined: September 7, 2013	6-10-15 scale is 100% impossible in Super. It was broken the second Goku re-introduced Kaioken and has become increasingly broken since. The difference between Goku/Vegeta and Beerus is more or less the same as the Potara boost for Vegetto, if the manga holds any relevance to this. We don't really know how much stronger Whis is compared to Beerus.



+ Ssj3vegito96	Jul 18 2017, 04:53 PM Post #3
Posts: 10,327 Group: Elite Member Member #10,438 Joined: November 2, 2013 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Dragon ball/Z/GT/S, Fullmetal Alchemist:Brotherhood, One Punch Man Favourite Manga DB/Z/S	But if we haven't learned anything new about how much stronger whis is than beerus then what's wrong with sticking with toriyama's intention with the gap between beerus and whis?
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Slifer	Jul 18 2017, 04:54 PM Post #4
Posts: 3,488 Group: Member Member #10,141 Joined: September 7, 2013	Nothing's wrong with it because we don't know their gap. It could be 1.5x or 1000x



+ Son-Goku	Jul 18 2017, 05:25 PM Post #5
孫悟空 Posts: 13,358 Group: Elite Member Member #12,886 Joined: January 24, 2016 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime DB/DBZ/DBS, Code Geass, Gintama, YYH, Death Note, and SAO. What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga Dragon Ball, Fairy Tail, and Naruto.	We don't know the comparison of Goku to Beerus yet. But I don't think there's anything wrong with Beerus being at 10 and Whis being at 15. Goku obviously changed in relation to Beerus, but I don't think that has to be said for the gap between Beerus and Whis. I believe that gap remained.
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+ Pyrus	Jul 18 2017, 06:01 PM Post #6
Posts: 39,342 Group: Legend Member #5,088 Joined: August 1, 2010 Gender Not Specified Country Chile	Anime-wise, Goku is only nearing Beerus with Kaio-ken x10 Super Saiyan Blue, and even that might still be a large gap. Manga-wise, Goku has caught up a lot, but he'd still get bodied if he's only on par with Merged Zamasu while Beerus is on Vegetto's tier. I think it's fair to use the 10-15 proportion for Beerus and Whis until we get a better idea of where Whis stands.
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Thiln	Jul 18 2017, 06:04 PM Post #7
Posts: 2,481 Group: Member Member #12,166 Joined: March 23, 2015 Gender Male Favourite Anime Dragon Ball, Attack on Titan What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga Hokuto no Ken, Berserk, Dragon Ball, Rurouni Kenshin, Attack on Titan, Kuroshitsuji	In fairness to Goku, his initial Kaioken amalgamation with SSJB was enough to take Beerus aback for a minute and contemplate if the Saiyan had intended to use this power against him. But then you have Kaioshin's admittance of SSJG Vegetto having surpassed Beerus in the manga and we all know how potent the Potara fusion is for those two Saiyans - at least in the original series. If the mechanics were to scale accurately then Vegetto should have obliterated Fused Zamasu's body in one punch since SSJG Goku was capable of fighting on equal terms with him. In the Buu arc, my personal estimations for Base Goku and Vegeta see their power being multiplied by the hundreds to over one thousand as they went from being close to #16/Imperfect Cell to fitting somewhere between SSJ Gotenks after training and SSJ3 Gotenks/Super Buu. Transferring that increase to Super would imply Beerus is still eons ahead of the Saiyan pair, unless Kaioshin was speaking in terms of Vegetto dwarfing Beerus now. However, the terms he used made it sound as though Vegetto had only surpassed Beerus by a moderate amount, not that he had eclipsed him. Who knows what the gap is now between Beerus and Whis. The only means for determining whether Goku could equal or surpass Whis would be to re-merge with Vegeta and combine Kaioken x20 with SSJB.



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