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Killer Croc VS Deathclaws
Topic Started: Jul 18 2017, 03:56 AM (186 Views)
Darker
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I've seen a few threads here and there putting Fallout's Deathclaws against Killer Croc. I haven't seen these guys do much of anything so let's see what some Fallout experts can tell me.

But first, let's put different incarnations of Killer Croc (to make it more simple only animated ones) against a regular Deathclaw. I doubt they vary between games, but if they do, let's just composite it them all into one mega Deathclaw.

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Here's a respect thread with pretty much all Killer Croc incarnations

Round 1: BTAS
Round 2: TNBA
Round 3: The Batman
Round 4: Beware the Batman
Round 5: Batman Unlimited
Round 6: Nolanverse (Gotham Knight)
Round 7: The Brave & The Bold
Round 8: Son of Batman
Round 9: DC Superhero Girls
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I'm inclined to say Deathclaws win in many or most cases.

Depending on how you look at Deathclaws.

There are two ways so far as I can tell, gameplay and lore.

In terms of lore there's various tidbits about them cleaving men in two in one strike and the fact that both the Enclave and the Brotherhood of Steel consider them a threat means a lot, it means that these things can rip through Power Armour and kill them.

Supported by how many you find killed by Deathclaws throughout the games, as well as how easily Deathclaws kill them in the games.


In terms of gameplay they can in one strike kill the player character even when they're like level 10 with half decent armour, the player who can take several bullets before going down.

It also takes Armour Piercing rounds to do anything major to them, the Anti Material Rifle in New Vegas is the best example of this.


I'd say your basic Deathclaws could take on quite a few incarnations of Croc but Alpha Males or the Legendary Deathclaw could probably beat all of them.
In New Vegas you find a dead Brotherhood Paladin in the area where the Legendary Deathclaw lives...a Brotherhood Paladin who had Mercy, an OP 40mm grenade machinegun.
So the implication there is that the Legendary Deathclaw survived him.

In most cases he has them on brute strength but their claws should do him in whereas they can probably take his hits alright, given that they frequently tangle with Super Mutants who very often have Super Sledges.

Also as of Fallout 4 Deathclaws can pick a suit of Power Armour up and throw it around like a chew toy and those things seem pretty heavy.
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Jul 18 2017, 07:46 PM
I'm inclined to say Deathclaws win in many or most cases.


Which, tho

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In terms of lore there's various tidbits about them cleaving men in two in one strike and the fact that both the Enclave and the Brotherhood of Steel consider them a threat means a lot, it means that these things can rip through Power Armour and kill them.


So how hype is the Power Armour, exactly?

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In terms of gameplay they can in one strike kill the player character even when they're like level 10 with half decent armour, the player who can take several bullets before going down.


Not a hard thing to duplicate for Croc.

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I'd say your basic Deathclaws could take on quite a few incarnations of Croc but Alpha Males or the Legendary Deathclaw could probably beat all of them.
In New Vegas you find a dead Brotherhood Paladin in the area where the Legendary Deathclaw lives...a Brotherhood Paladin who had Mercy, an OP 40mm grenade machinegun.
So the implication there is that the Legendary Deathclaw survived him.


That depends on what he used though because from what I'm reading there are multiple grenade types.

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In most cases he has them on brute strength


And skill, and the one from Round 6 has a bite that conducts Scarecrow's fear toxin.

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they can probably take his hits alright, given that they frequently tangle with Super Mutants who very often have Super Sledges.


But that's just taking blows from creatures that are more or less just as strong as them. Most of the Crocs up there could easily rip a person to shreds, especially BTAS Croc.

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Also as of Fallout 4 Deathclaws can pick a suit of Power Armour up and throw it around like a chew toy and those things seem pretty heavy.


I don't see it stated anywhere but I imagine those things weigh hundreds of pounds at the very least.
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Which, tho

Too lazy to check them all atm :p

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So how hype is the Power Armour, exactly?


It's pretty hype, it's the whole reason why the US was doing well in the war against the commies. Power Armour soldiers were effectively tanks and the T51 suits were pretty much impervious to energy weapon damage.

It's unclear what they're made from, the T51 is apparently a mix of metal and ceramics and Enclave suits use Duraframe or something which is meant to be super strong. Deathclaws still kill anyone wearing these.

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Not a hard thing to duplicate for Croc.

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Does he ever take out armoured targets?

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That depends on what he used though because from what I'm reading there are multiple grenade types.


There are but so far as I remember basically nobody other than the player uses them and some of them are actually more powerful. I think you just find him with regular 40mm grenades in it but the damage done depends on the weapon not just the ammo type, as nonsense as that is in reality.

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But that's just taking blows from creatures that are more or less just as strong as them. Most of the Crocs up there could easily rip a person to shreds, especially BTAS Croc.


Well Deathclaws tend to rip everything to shreds and for damage resistance you get plenty in Fallout 4 at least that can survive being hit by Mini Nukes:


And that's just a basic possibly low level Deathclaw.

This is a complicated match up since there's Deathclaws, Legendary Deathclaws, Albino Deathclaws, Chameleon(invisible) Deathclaws, Glowing(irradiated) Deathclaws, Alpha Male Deathclaws, Mythic Deathclaws etc etc etc

I guess taking the Legendary boost out of it would be fair, in Fallout 4 any Legendary enemy regens all it's health and gets stronger at a certain point.
(Different to the Legendary Deathclaw in New Vegas)


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I don't see it stated anywhere but I imagine those things weigh hundreds of pounds at the very least.


Yeah I checked but can't find anything concrete.

The in-game weight has parts weighing like 40 pounds but that's obviously a gamey thing considering you can carry them, several rocket launchers and multiple other guns just fine.

Unless in Fallout 4 it's just the frame that has all the weight because it still makes a big impact on the ground without the armour pieces.


All variations of Croc are screwed if Deathclaws use their legendary super move:


Happens in 3, NV and 4 so Deathclaw flight must be canon.

They tend to miss and die but if they didn't...
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Jul 19 2017, 01:08 PM
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Which, tho

Too lazy to check them all atm :p


Bruh.

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Does he ever take out armoured targets?


Not on-screen, but it's hard to think that they don't send SWAT teams to stop a guy like him. Gotham Knight's Killer Croc can easily bite through Batman's kevlar armor, and other versions like the DC Superhero Girls one has fought people wearing armor, like Wonder Woman.

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Well Deathclaws tend to rip everything to shreds and for damage resistance you get plenty in Fallout 4 at least that can survive being hit by Mini Nukes:


I'm not sure if that was a glitch or if the Deathclaw actually dodged the sniper round, but if he did that puts him in a whole other level.

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This is a complicated match up since there's Deathclaws, Legendary Deathclaws, Albino Deathclaws, Chameleon(invisible) Deathclaws, Glowing(irradiated) Deathclaws, Alpha Male Deathclaws, Mythic Deathclaws etc etc etc


As stated by the OP, only regular Deathclaws like the one from the video are allowed.

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All variations of Croc are screwed if Deathclaws use their legendary super move:


Happens in 3, NV and 4 so Deathclaw flight must be canon.

They tend to miss and die but if they didn't...


It's an easy target to catch for some.

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Not on-screen, but it's hard to think that they don't send SWAT teams to stop a guy like him. Gotham Knight's Killer Croc can easily bite through Batman's kevlar armor, and other versions like the DC Superhero Girls one has fought people wearing armor, like Wonder Woman.


That's decent I guess. That Croc there could maybe do it if he were to go on a Deathclaws back, hard to say how well they could reach around there to get him off.

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I'm not sure if that was a glitch or if the Deathclaw actually dodged the sniper round, but if he did that puts him in a whole other level.

They can take tons of shots, looks like a weak character though(perks increase gun damage 'cause game magic)

Fallout New Vegas is a bit more reasonable, you can one shot a Deathclaw with .50 Cal Explosive rounds. .50 Cal rounds are kinda pathetic in 4 but that could have been just .308.

This is New Vegas Deathclaws vs Armour Piercing .50 Cal rounds, most of them seem to take a couple of hits


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As stated by the OP, only regular Deathclaws like the one from the video are allowed.


Ironically the one from the photo there is Stripe, a tiny but suped up Deathclaw :p he's not that far off the Legendary Deathclaw even.

To composite them would make them win easy, Fallout 3/New Vegas Deathclaws are the most fair and realistic, as you see from a sneak attack critical one shotting an Alpha Male there.
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