Is it possible to make a DB power level list that fits into DBZ perfectly?

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Is it possible to make a DB power level list that fits into DBZ perfectly?
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+ Son-Goku	Jul 16 2017, 02:07 PM Post #1
孫悟空 Posts: 13,359 Group: Elite Member Member #12,886 Joined: January 24, 2016 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime DB/DBZ/DBS, Code Geass, Gintama, YYH, Death Note, and SAO. What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga Dragon Ball, Fairy Tail, and Naruto.	I've never been able to do it and I don't know anyone who has. Is it better to just ignore Z when power scaling Dragon Ball?
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Dankness Lava	Jul 16 2017, 02:34 PM Post #2
Dankness Forever Posts: 6,348 Group: Tha Dankness Member #9,197 Joined: March 16, 2013 Gender Not Specified Country None Favourite Anime Hajime no Ippo What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga One Piece	If you don't take power boasts in DB at face value it is, otherwise no.



+ Emmeth	Jul 16 2017, 02:56 PM Post #3
I ♥ Yoeri Posts: 20,075 Group: Legend Member #8,985 Joined: February 7, 2013 Country Japan	Power level lists are always a rough estimate of gauging the strength of characters at certain points in the series. There's no definite answer to it as Toriyama abandoned power levels very early on. Even 3 million Goku at Namek and the 50x multiplier for Super Saiyan aren't necessarily 100% factual.
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+ ThePrinceOfSaiyans	Jul 16 2017, 04:03 PM Post #4
魔王子 Posts: 9,797 Group: Elite Member Member #10,492 Joined: November 16, 2013 Gender Male Favourite Anime Dragon Ball Z What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga Dragon Ball	I don't see why not. What are some points of contention for you?
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+ Ssj3vegito96	Jul 16 2017, 04:07 PM Post #5
Posts: 10,327 Group: Elite Member Member #10,438 Joined: November 2, 2013 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Dragon ball/Z/GT/S, Fullmetal Alchemist:Brotherhood, One Punch Man Favourite Manga DB/Z/S	I've never heard of it being a problem tbh
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+ Son-Goku	Jul 16 2017, 06:01 PM Post #6
孫悟空 Posts: 13,359 Group: Elite Member Member #12,886 Joined: January 24, 2016 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime DB/DBZ/DBS, Code Geass, Gintama, YYH, Death Note, and SAO. What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga Dragon Ball, Fairy Tail, and Naruto.	ThePrinceOfSaiyans Jul 16 2017, 04:03 PM I don't see why not. What are some points of contention for you? Well, many people say that most of the Z-Fighters by the time of the 23rd Tournament are stronger than Young King Piccolo. But I don't see how that could possibly work out unless they got weaker in five years.
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+ ThePrinceOfSaiyans	Jul 16 2017, 06:51 PM Post #7
魔王子 Posts: 9,797 Group: Elite Member Member #10,492 Joined: November 16, 2013 Gender Male Favourite Anime Dragon Ball Z What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga Dragon Ball	Well, that's an assumption on their part. Tenshinhan in particular doesn't have to be stronger than Daimao to keep up with a Weighted Goku when he admits that his performance was a result of speed and new techniques. Edited by ThePrinceOfSaiyans, Jul 16 2017, 09:25 PM.
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+ Pyrus	Jul 16 2017, 09:22 PM Post #8
Posts: 39,342 Group: Legend Member #5,088 Joined: August 1, 2010 Gender Not Specified Country Chile	I don't think it's possible unless you omit certain statements or don't take them at face value. There are numerous statements throughout Dragon Ball where fighters have powered up "several-fold" or "many times," and if there are people in the low 100ish range at the 21st Tenkaichi Budokai according to the guidebooks, and Goku at the beginning of Z is only 416, then yeah, mathematically it's a nightmare.
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Dan The Commentator	Jul 23 2017, 08:12 AM Post #9
Posts: 165 Group: Member Member #13,926 Joined: July 5, 2017 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Princess Mononoke, Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood, Gurren Lagann, and Baccano! What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga Dragon Ball and One Piece	It's perfectly possible as long as you don't take the hyperbolic "I've gotten many times stronger" statements literally. Remember, power levels are just a numerical measurement of how much ki one radiates, and ki wasn't the be-all-end-all deciding factor in fights at the beginning. Ki control was pretty limited back then and only really used for big and flashy super moves, unlike in the later arcs where everyone is amping up their basic abilities with ki. So when a character says that they've gotten "many time stronger" than before, they're not necessarily basing their boasts on factual recorded data. They're not measuring out their current ki pool and comparing it to their own from three years ago. And their not measuring how fast they're running or how much weight they can bench-press. They're just going by how they feel. A fairly small power level increase can feel like a monumental improvement. They feel stronger, faster, tougher, smarter, and more skillful, and some might express this sensation with hyperbolic boasting. The only major contradiction is when Goku first fought King Piccolo, the latter stated that he wasn't even using half of his strength, which makes things pretty difficult when Piccolo Jr is only at 408 when Muten Roshi is at 139, and official power levels peg young King Piccolo at around 260, and 15-year-old Goku at 180. My solution is to treat the 260 number as sort of a base level, and that what he calls his full power is actually some sort of amped-up, beyond-his-limits stress-filled state, like Super Saiyan Grade 2 or Kaioken. After all, Piccolo does say that using his full strength shortens his lifespan, hence why he doesn't use it all that much. That sounds pretty different from pretty much every other instance of a character using their full power, save for Freeza's 100% state, or Perfect Cell's power bloated Grade 3-like state. So base King Piccolo might be 260, his full power could be 400~500. AFter his first defeat, Piccolo Jr decided to not bother with stressful power-ups, just like how Goku later decided the flaws in the Grade forms weren't worth the power, and stuck with regular Super Saiyan instead. This actually reflects pretty well in the rest of the fight. Piccolo has a huge advantage over Goku when it comes to his ki attacks, but Goku's still physically stronger (as in muscle strength) and is just a better overall fighter, which we can attribute to a retroactive racial advantage. Plus, while Piccolo is packing some serious heat, all that power is playing merry hell on his body.



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