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RF goku vs BOG goku
Topic Started: Jul 13 2017, 11:36 PM (972 Views)
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I don't have the screenshot right now but when goku and vegeta arrive to fight Frieza there's a scene where gohan or krillin says that goku is way stronger than before and goku was only in base form

Most people including myself take this to mean RF base goku>ssj goku post absorption

But wouldn't they also have an idea of how strong base goku was after he absorbed ssjg too? Why does this have to be a comparison between RF base goku and ssj goku post absorption? Couldn't they just be saying he's stronger in general?
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I know what you're talking about, Krillin says this is way different (or extreme, difficult) than the fight against Beerus or something like that.
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This is what is said.

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Episode: 24
Context: Base Goku and Final Form Freeza are fighting.
Gohan: “They both have an unbelievably strong Ki.”
Kuririn: “This is different from the fight with Beerus… I’ve got this indescribable sense of genuine horror.


Kuririn doesn't explicitly say Goku is stronger than he was when he fought Beerus, but what Kuririn says is in direct response to Gohan stating they have incredible Ki. Make of that what you will.
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Hmm so what do you guys make out of it? I mean obviously goku has gotten stronger in general but would this lead you to believe goku is as strong as ever even in base form? Stronger than ssj goku post absorption?

I'm not getting anything out of it except what it says
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Well, I believe in two-base theory (I hate calling it that), so Goku imo was using Saiyan Beyond god against Frieza. Which is the equivalent to SSG, so if this is SSG basically but trained up then obviously he's more powerful. In the anime Beerus only says that Goku retained the power in his Super Saiyan form, so it should be equal to SSG.

Saiyan Beyond (RF)>Super Saiyan (post-god BoG)=Super Saiyan Red (BoG)
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Beerus never said he kept the form only in his ssj form did he? The narrator and vegeta said he was beyond God after he absorbed it and at the end of the saga
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Jul 14 2017, 12:02 AM
Beerus never said he kept the form only in his ssj form did he? The narrator and vegeta said he was beyond God after he absorbed it and at the end of the saga
Hmmm, it's been so long I can't remember things between the anime, manga, and movie. Idk. I need to just re-watch this series.
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Gohan was there to watch Goku fight Beerus, and here he's basically admitting Goku is even stronger with the "unbelievably strong ki" comment. If Gohan had felt that kind of power from Goku before, the line doesn't have as much impact IMO.
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Yeah, I'm of the camp that feels Base/Saiyan Beyond Goku is stronger than Super Saiyan God Goku was when he fought Beerus. That just seems like the most reasonable interpretation of that exchange.
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